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cheval
10-26-2008, 02:03 PM
For the entire time I've boarded Solon there have been a handful of teens that have boarded there. Even the owner prefers and adult only barn and for the adults to not bring kids up because the younger kids just cause problems while their moms are riding.

I have always preferred it when we don't have teens there because we get the same type and just recently is NO exception. We've got another one - the kind that sprays her horse's face full force with water and wonders why it tries to pull away, disrupts people riding in the arena with excess disciplining of her horse (when it rider error) and just a general pain in the ass.

Several of us are hoping this one and her pals with go the way as the others.. as in .. AWAY. I have no idea where kids are learning about horses these days, but it sure is not from horse people. No etiquette, no horse sense, no common sense.

So many people have seen this one and previous one doing things to the horse that they want to them off of the horse and do the same thing to them and see just how well they are going to react.

I like to go up to the barn, have a peaceful time with my horse. Even if a riding session involves issues - the adults handle them in ways that don't disrupt the other riders. Sadly these aren't kids you can suggest anything to. They obviously know everything.

So for now, people try to avoid the times they are at the barn, not always easy. :mad:

lovesfortune
10-26-2008, 02:07 PM
Ugh. I can imagine how that would be. ANd it's even worse you can't talk to them or even try to TEACH them without them being rude.

Hopefully they go AWAY soon... and leave the rest of you boarders in peace!

Arrow
10-26-2008, 02:10 PM
Hmm...I'm changing barns in mid-November, moving to a much bigger place...and you're sending chills down my spine...

cheval
10-26-2008, 02:11 PM
No doubt. What is worse is the question of just who these girls are learning horsemanship from. If I were ANY of their horses, I dump their butts every chance I could. I know the one horse is getting to that piont. A horse is only going to take getting their mouths jerked around for so long.

I just don't like the bratty attitude.

cheval
10-26-2008, 02:12 PM
Hmm...I'm changing barns in mid-November, moving to a much bigger place...and you're sending chills down my spine...


Seriously, find out what age group is there first. If it's mostly younger, I'd move on. If I ever had to change barns, that'd be one of the first things I'd look at.

Cat
10-26-2008, 02:13 PM
This makes me thankful I don't have to be at a barn. I do know my aunt-in-law had some adults like that at her barn - so its not just teens.

Arrow
10-26-2008, 02:13 PM
Unfortunately, there's nothing that you can do. There's nothing worse than watching someone abuse a horse right in front of you, is there?

cheval
10-26-2008, 02:14 PM
In 9 years of boarding, it has only been the teens. And most of us cringe everytime a group of them comes to look at the barn.

cheval
10-26-2008, 02:15 PM
Unfortunately, there's nothing that you can do. There's nothing worse than watching someone abuse a horse right in front of you, is there?

Especially with their parent right there just watching like its a normal everyday thing.

Arrow
10-26-2008, 02:16 PM
Seriously, find out what age group is there first. If it's mostly younger, I'd move on. If I ever had to change barns, that'd be one of the first things I'd look at.

I'm lucky in having a flexible schedule--I can work from 6 am to noon and then 3 to 5 or 6 if I so desire on Tues, Thurs, and Fri. That way, I can have Arrow time while the tots are at school. As for the weekends...we'll see!

IrisGreen
10-26-2008, 03:07 PM
sadly, it's not just teens at barns. It's teens in general being more disrespectful, thinking they know it all and having a "better then you" attitude. Not all teens of course but most that I meet are over the top with there prissy attitude and full lack of common since. Parents don't raise there kids anymore, day cares do. These kids don't know respect and there parents are too busy trying to be there best friend then trying to be a good parent that knows when to put there foot down.

We don't have kids yet but I am so scared when we do!! Our kids are going to hate me for being on top of them and not letting them get away with half of what there friends pull on there parents. They won't like it growing up but they will understand when they are older. My Mom didn't let me get away with much and she tryed to stay on top of what I was doing. Most of my friends when I was a teen, I hadn't even met there parents because they didn't care where there kids were. My Mom knew everyone of my friends and would even get on to them if they did something stupid. lol I respected her authority, didn't mean that I didn't test it or try to get away with stuff. But, I did know that she cared and would hunt me down and kick my butt if she found out I was doing wrong. lol

Parents these days just turn a blind eye and don't want there kids to not like them. Then when the kid is a teen and they try to actually be a parent and set some rules the kid has no respect for them and could careless what they say or do.

It's just sad what parents tolerate from there kids now days. I know my Mom would have slapped me silly if I talked like that to her or had these kind of attitudes. She was tuff but she had to be to stay on top of me and bring me up right to respect and appreciate things in life.

BalooEyes
10-26-2008, 03:29 PM
When I was a teen, I hated teens! lol.
But yeah, I know what you mean. sometimes you can't help it and are a bit disruptive, but if find the younger riders tend to make bigger shows of things to draw attention to themselves. There are adults like this too, but it seems teens are the majority of them.

I am so thankful for the barn I board at. I board at my trainer's place (a 62 year old lady) and the only other boarder is Leah, and she's in her 30's, so no kids to deal with! My trainer can actually turn into someone that's disruptive because she is SO stubborn with her horses. The one day her mare was hot and just wanted to tort, and would throw fits when you asked her to just walk. But she insisted on just walking and held the group up. The horse would have been perfectly fine if she let just admitted the horse was having a bad day and let her trot and only do a little walking.

Blue
10-26-2008, 03:38 PM
I know I'm a teen...so I'm technically not suposed to post...but...

When I was a teen, I hated teens! lol.
I AGREE!

I really really don't like any of the girls at my barn. There's one girl who jumps her horse every day (not cross rails, she does 2'-3' jumps) and my trainer keeps telling her that her horse is lame in the back (he's really stiff, he might have arthritis) and to STOP jumping him but she won't! She never listens! She sprays the horse in the face with the hose too...and draws on him with Expo markers! UGH! She'll tie him up and run around the barn screaming...while her horse is pawing at everything and knocking stuff down. She even talks bad about the adults at the barn (including our SUPER awesome trainer). Plus she's kind of mean...I get along with one of the girls there, but she's mature as well...all we talk about is books. ;)

I promise I'm not being a hypocrite. :) I'm mature for my age...I make sure I take good care of Blue and I don't leave him around.

dustys_girlly
10-26-2008, 03:43 PM
i am so happy that i got away form boarding stables. i had more problems with the what-a-be trainers and the rich kids, the people that did not know what they were doing but pretending that they did. what worked for use was giving them the cold shoulder or start telling them how to do stuff, they get really annoyed and leave. then have your BO make the barn an adult only barn, for liability reasons or what ever other reason they want to use.

jeezitsjacki
10-26-2008, 04:13 PM
well technically im not allowed her either.. but ill be 20 in april and not a teen so I am coming in!

I agree for the most part... im sorry that you feel like all teens are like this because im sorry you have never dealt with good teenagers. The other teens at my barn are mostly ok to get along with. my trainers dont put up with anything.. you act mature or your gone.. pretty much

sorry all the teens at your barn are immature.. it seems like as the years go on they keep getting more and more immature

Arrow
10-26-2008, 04:18 PM
Of course...I'm pretty sure that I was an unholy terror.:oops:

Still--I must board. There's just no way I can be tied to caring for a horse, I'd never be able to leave overnight to go anywhere. It's just not possible.

Aina
10-26-2008, 04:28 PM
Yeah, I'm not supposed to post here either, but oh well.
My barn has a lot of teens that board there. I have never seen any of them be mean to their horses and several of them are more responsible than her adult boarders. But the parents of the teens are generally good and my BO works with the kids a lot. I think she likes teens and kids better than she does the adult riders, lol.

She also has a waiting list of people who want to board at her place so I am sure that if someone is doing something she doesn't approve of she would kick them out.

I think there is a very large disparity between good kids and bad kids and that is what you are seeing. Either kids really care, or they don't care at all. There really isn't much middle ground anymore

Annasmom
10-26-2008, 05:58 PM
again i'm not suppose to post :rolleyes::cool: but I have to say I know exactly what you're talking about! Luckily I'm fortunate to board somewhere where the horses and other people are respected or that person will no longer be a boarder. there are 3 teens at my barn who have all boarded with other teens and I'm sure they would both agree with you (including myself). I don't know why that is the case most the time I guess just stupid people who happen to be teens. I'm not sure but it does seem to occur often it annoys the heck out of me.

I'll always feel bad for the horse.

Equine_Woman
10-26-2008, 06:18 PM
For some reason the barns I boarded at didn't really have teens. I guess because I lived in a college town, most of the boarders were college aged or older. There were a few teens but they were good teens and I loved them all. Still keep in touch with some of them (now that they are in their 20s. . Sheesh)

I think it all comes down to lack of parental supervision. Some teens are mature, some aren't, and their parents need to know that they can't be left alone to take care of their horses because they are disrupting the barn. If it were my barn they'd change or be gone. No sense making the happy long term boarders unhappy. Hope your problems move on soon!

I was really lucky. I never had issues with boarders, other than the busybody older man who tried to take care of EVERYONE's horses even if they asked him not to and the woman who just for some reason hated me! (Once she got to know me she told me she has no idea why she disliked me so. . .sheesh) The busy body older man plastered pink swat ALL over my mare's face. She was supposed to have a fly mask on but the barn owner forgot it so that was this man's solution. Swat is next to impossible to get off especially since my horse hates to have her face washed!! I was cursing. But that's pretty innocent compared to annoying people.

EnglishGuy
10-26-2008, 06:53 PM
Also shouldn't post here but...


I know how you feel Cheval with the disrespectful teens. The barn I ride at is pretty large with quite a few boarders. We have all sorts of folks from very young children to a couple elderly folks in their 80's. I'm very lucky that the vast majority of the people there are very respectful, helpful and friendly. I personally don't have a group I hang out with in particular, I just kind of float around, be kind/respectful to everyone, try to absorb as much knowledge as I can and just generally have fun.

However we do have two or three teenage girls who are very rude and just the kind of people I hate to be around. They don't clean up their messes, they use other peoples' things, they make rude comments and ride dangerously, not just endangering themselves and their horses but everyone around them too. I just ignore them and have only had one run in with one of them but that was enough for me. I know their schedules though and am able to completely avoid them now, as do many people at the barn and for the most part they stay to themselves (because no one else will put up with them).

I'm really disgusted by the way a lot of teens act today. In High School the vast majority are very rude and just don't seem to care what people think anymore. I hate when I see my classmates be rude to/ignore teachers, talk trash about people or harrass someone, take advantage of substitutes, etc. Its like grow up and act your age. I'd be embarrassed if I acted like that.

Oh well, rant over. Luckily there are still plenty of teens out there who do care, and do try to be good people. Just look at all of us here on the forum:cool:

cheval
10-26-2008, 07:07 PM
I didn't relly want to get into a big debate with the group of teens on the forum about how not all teens are like this - which was the only reason I put that in the subject of the thread.

I think it'd be VERY VERY VERY VERY nice if the type of people on this board would be at our barn!!!!!!!!!! I'd be asking half of you guys for help with things!!!!!!

Sadly it's not the case though. You would think even statistically by now, we'd have gotten some that weren't problems, but nope.

Palogal
10-26-2008, 07:12 PM
Who is the girls trainer?

My students don't act that way, they know how to respectfully handle a horse and an arena with other people. But teenagers do have to be TAUGHT. We acquired acceptable social skills over time because someone taught us. So I guess I would talk to the trainer and maybe the BO and she will go away or straighten up.

WashingtonBay
10-26-2008, 07:27 PM
When I was a teen at a boarding stable, I was scared to death of my trainer. She told me once that she'd hang me from a nail on the wall if I didn't follow the rules and I believed her. And I knew my folks would back her up on it.

I guess a lot of today's kids know they can't be touched and their parents would help to subvert authority instead of teach them to respect it if anyone tried. "Who yelled at my darling???"

Many suburban stables depend on the income from the teenage girls with horses, they're a big market.

But if I end up with them at mine, they are going to believe I will hang them from a nail. Their parents too. :D

cheval
10-26-2008, 07:27 PM
We don't have barn trainers like a lot of facilities. I have my trainer that is sort of the barn trainer during the winter but people just do their own thing (when it comes to training). I don't know where she's learning any of the crap she's doing. Parelli? ha ha ha ha!

But seriously, no clue.

rockyridge
10-26-2008, 10:05 PM
When I was a teen at a boarding stable, I was scared to death of my trainer. She told me once that she'd hang me from a nail on the wall if I didn't follow the rules and I believed her. And I knew my folks would back her up on it. quote wb

i had that same trainer only in ohio.....we were scared to death to do anything wrong..

jeezitsjacki
10-26-2008, 11:12 PM
I had that trainer too! And I still am a teen..(19) but then I moved barns.. but my trainer now is very friendly and like my second mom.. but I know if I do something out of line I will pay for it..

cheval have you tried talking to her and explaining why what she is doing is dangerous to others, and if she wants to behave that way she can do it when she is riding alone? no idea if that would help.. but its worth a shot

Horserider
10-27-2008, 05:36 AM
I can understand that. Some teens are just so...stupid and immature. Not all teens are like that though. I'm a teen for example. I feel sorry that the horses had to get such inexperienced owners and that you had to get the annoying kind of teen to board at the barn. :)

rocknK
10-27-2008, 05:50 AM
Chev, where we keep our horses there are several teens who can ride the 'ol middleaged DQ's into the ground. Oughta hear the biddies grumble when they ride past. I think it's hilarious.