Sony's sun-burned nose

[Me'N'Chic]

I am thinking that Sony's muzzle may have gotten sun-burned and I am wondering if anyone else has had that happen and what you do for it.

A few weeks ago I noticed where the white is on her muzzle it was lightly peeling a little. I didn't put anything on it. Well now it looks like she must have gotten a burn -on-top-of-burn (which I remember getting myself years ago on a Florida vacation!) that has scabbed over and I am sure it feels awful. I am leary of putting moisturizer or anything on it; afraid that it will attract the sun more. She is on pasture 24/7 with trees for shade--but I don't see her under them much! Is there something I should put on it, or just move her to barn for a week or so? Thanks!

[IrisGreen]

Muffin used to get sun burned when he was younger. Slather some sun block on her nose or put her inside and put a soothing aloavera (sp?) ointment/cream on her nose. You can also buy a fly mask with an extended nose and that helps alot to keep it from getting sun burnt.

I used sunblock on Muffin if he didn't have his fly mask on. When I was looking for fly masks they didn't have the long nose ones except for Cashel Crusader, I think they were one of the first company's to offer the long nose that covered all the way down past there nose. Now other company's over the long nose fly masks and there much cheaper to buy. Unfortunately for me, most brands don't run large enough to fit Muffin so I still have to spend $25+ a mask for him.

I would keep her inside if she handles being stalled well, put some aloavera on her nose and when you go to turn her out smear some sun block on or buy a long nose mask.

Also, I use Tri-Tek 14 fly spray. It has a sun block in it and I spray Muffins muzzle with it lightly every other day to keep the flys off and to help with the sun. It works great and he hasn't burned not once this year and I haven't been putting his fly mask on him. So the Tri-Tek 14 really does help block the sun and Muffin is happy to not have flys on his face:)

[natisha]

Try zinc oxide, you can get it at a dollar store. If not treated it will continue to burn until it forms scabs, very painful.

[Oreos Girl]

I agree with Natisha and IrisGreen, put sunscreen on the nose. I was getting scabs on Oreo's nose and after putting sunscreen on for 1 week it cleared up. I just put it on in the morning when I would feed.

Oreo's Girl

[BlaiseGlaze]

rusty's nose burns, i have been putting A & D ointment on it every night. i intended to get sunblock today...

[Clarzoo]

My vet told me the zinc oxide isn't good for them. That's the first time I've heard that, but I decided to stop using it, just in case :huh:

I use spf45 NO AD human sunscreen for Georgia (she's my friends horse I take care of- with a big white blaze). But the best thing is the fly mask with the extended nose. It saves me from having to reapply sunscreen so often, plus it keeps the flies away!

As far as helping out skin that is already burnt- I like Diaper Rash cream. (Generic is fine) It is so thick and greasy, that it stays on long enough to help out, and the horses seem to appreciate it- even if they don't like getting it rubbed in!! :p

[lisakaye]

I do what Clarzoo does. No Ad in the morning and Aloe at night. Brutus gets sun burnt fairly bad. I also use a long fly mask that covers his nose. But he likes to take it off and bury it in the field for me to find.

[Me'N'Chic]

Thank you all so much for your responses! I feel bad because her's has already gotten scabby--I know that has to feel awful! I am glad that it is supposed to be pretty cloudy the next several days so maybe it can heal. Funny, Chic never got burnt as bad and she is mostly white! Thanks again!

[BlaiseGlaze]

I just bought some NO AD 50 very sweat and water resistant
LoL: it says to remove just rinse with water

I was always told we could burn even in overcast weather.

[IrisGreen]

I was always told we could burn even in overcast weather.

Yeah, I was always warned that overcast is worse then full sun because you don't feel the burn until later. Also I have heard (don't know if it's true) that overcast magnifies the suns UV rays but you don't feel the heat like you do when your in full sun light. So, you can get burned worse during over cast because most people don't think to put on sun block and stay out longer then normal.

[BlaiseGlaze]

Yeah, I was always warned that overcast is worse then full sun because you don't feel the burn until later. Also I have heard (don't know if it's true) that overcast magnifies the suns UV rays but you don't feel the heat like you do when your in full sun light. So, you can get burned worse during over cast because most people don't think to put on sun block and stay out longer then normal.
that is precisely what i was told too!

[natisha]

My vet told me the zinc oxide isn't good for them. That's the first time I've heard that, but I decided to stop using it, just in case :huh:

:p Did the vet say WHY it was not good for them? I've been using it for years with no ill effect, that I am aware of. Life guards use it on their noses so I wonder how it could be bad for horses. Interested to find out more.

[Palogal]

A& D is good to treat the burn, all kinds of vitamins and stuff in there to heal it. Waterproof sunblock will keep it from happening again, usually. I'd keep him in during the day for a couple days so the burn doesn't get worse.

[Clarzoo]

Natisha- No, he didn't say why it wasn't good. I will ask and let you know. I've always heard it was the best stuff.

[Suzi]

Cora has a pink and white nose and we deal with the sun issues every summer. She has finaly gotten alittle wiser in her years and will spend more time in her stall durning the day. But we use the sunscreens and long fly masks as well. I also put Bag Balm on her nose if it really looks chapped. It also flares up this time if year when the dew is heavier in the mornings. The mositure she gets as she grazes and then daily dryng in the sun, seems to chapped her nose.

[natisha]

Natisha- No, he didn't say why it wasn't good. I will ask and let you know. I've always heard it was the best stuff. Thank you, I appreciate it.

[IrisGreen]

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"About ZINC OXIDE (NON-NANO): Zinc has a long history of use in sunscreen and other skin care products; little absorption and no adverse health effects are reported. Some sunscreens with zinc contain nanoparticles which do not penetrate skin but may pose toxicity concerns if inhaled or in the environment."

"One or more in vitro tests on mammalian cells show positive mutation results (cancer)"

"Zinc inhalation causes metal fume fever, an acute self-limited illness. Zinc oxide is the most common cause."

"In oral exposure study, 200 mg/kg ZnO induced a complete fetal resorption (100% prenatal death) in all treated dams"

"•Dangerous for the environment •Very toxic to aquatic organisms"

"ZINC OXIDE (NON-NANO) has reported used in the following product types: foundation (451); eye shadow (160); facial powder (150); concealer (123); lip liner (103); blush (100); mask (74); facial moisturizer/treatment (68); diaper cream (65); eye liner (45)"
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So, pretty much it's toxic when eaten or inhaled, suspected to potentially cause cancer, is not absorbed by the skin and is very fatal for pregnant females or aquatic animals to come into contact with.

I suspect the reason why the vet doesn't want it on the horses nose is because over time they will end up poisoning themselves by smearing it on there food or in there water and the risk of it being inhaled all day through the nostrils.

[natisha]

[QUOTE=IrisGreen;221580

So, pretty much it's toxic when eaten or inhaled, suspected to potentially cause cancer, is not absorbed by the skin and is very fatal for pregnant females or aquatic animals to come into contact with.

I suspect the reason why the vet doesn't want it on the horses nose is because over time they will end up poisoning themselves by smearing it on there food or in there water and the risk of it being inhaled all day through the nostrils.[/QUOTE]
Wow, thanks for the information. You know, maybe the skin reactions Whiskey (who has the pink nose) has had was not from bugs but from the ZO on the face. I am going to stop using it & see if there is a difference, although I may not know for sure until next spring. Thanks so much

[IrisGreen]

Maybe? I don't know but that could be a reason why shes having a reaction on her nose. It did say it can be a skin irritant too. I know I have to try out different sun screens to see what works best for me and doesn't make me brake out or have a reaction. So, maybe try a different sun block on Whiskey and see if that makes a difference.

Zinc Oxide is in sunblock but at least it's in a cream and not full strength so that might make all the difference. I gave up on slathering Muffin with sunblock once I got his sun burned nose under control last year. He really didn't like the sun block being goopped on his nose and gave me a "eww" face. Now, I just spray him with the Tri-Tek 14 and he's fine with just a quick lite spray down his muzzle.

[natisha]

Maybe? I don't know but that could be a reason why shes having a reaction on her nose. It did say it can be a skin irritant too. I know I have to try out different sun screens to see what works best for me and doesn't make me brake out or have a reaction. So, maybe try a different sun block on Whiskey and see if that makes a difference.

Zinc Oxide is in sunblock but at least it's in a cream and not full strength so that might make all the difference. I gave up on slathering Muffin with sunblock once I got his sun burned nose under control last year. He really didn't like the sun block being goopped on his nose and gave me a "eww" face. Now, I just spray him with the Tri-Tek 14 and he's fine with just a quick lite spray down his muzzle. Funny, the only place she doesn't get her scabbies is on her nose but she could still be having a systemic reaction, maybe?

[Clarzoo]

Iris Green- Thanks for looking that up! Interesting, since Zinc Oxide is in a lot of human products including Calamine lotion, among other things like sunscreen.

[Me'N'Chic]

WOW! Thanks for all the info guys! Sony looked a little better today! I never thought about the dew drying out her muzzle, Suzi! That makes sense beacuse I noticed it didn't seem to really get "burnt" all summer and then just the last few weeks (when I would think the sun is not as strong!) I noticed chafing/light peeling first and then it got scabbed over. The dew on the grass does begin to get worse here in August--so I bet that added to it! Thanks again!

[Appaloosalover]

I usually use Aloe. It works good and soothes the skin. During the really sunny days we use a small amount of sweat proof sunscreen on our horses pink noses :)

[Suzi]

Yup, that is just what Cora's nose will do (chapping) I hate to see it cuz it has to be uncomfortable.

[Tiz]

I had a horse that developed serious photo sensitivity. He burned very easily. In lieu of keeping him in, or applying sunscreen every 4 hours per label instructions, I cut the legs off of a pair of jeans, slipped them over his nose, and attached them to his halter. Gave him a long sleeved shirt for the snoot, and it worked great.

[paintedarabs]

I just use a high spf baby sunblock. I figure if it`s good for babies, it`s good my horse. I also use the cavello fly mask. Those are rated to block the UV rays. And I will say, When Kiowa wears hers, Her nose doesn`t even turn pink. They stay on pretty good, even with all the rubbing they do. I`ve had mine for 3 yrs now, and they will still go another couple yrs. Still in great shape.

[miatapony]

i have never had a horse get a sunburn on thier nose so this to me is a good read thanks everyone.

[Jump The Moon]

Trooper (our pony my sisters share for those who don't remember) has a pink nose and he gets suburnt. Suncream hasn't worked so well for him, but sudocrem has! :) We do under his chin too, because when the clover was out alot the sun reflected off it and burnt his chin! :p

[Jump The Moon]

i have never had a horse get a sunburn on thier nose so this to me is a good read thanks everyone.

I think it's quite common on pink nosed horses, but I haven't ever had it with Billy (he's a grey noser ;))

[IrisGreen]

Trooper (our pony my sisters share for those who don't remember) has a pink nose and he gets suburnt. Suncream hasn't worked so well for him, but sudocrem has! :) We do under his chin too, because when the clover was out alot the sun reflected off it and burnt his chin! :p

Is Trooper mainly white in color? I'm just asking because there have been studies that say white horses or primarily white horses can develop sun sensitivity when they eat clover in the pasture. Something in the clover makes them more sun sensitive.