Nais is now mandatory

[Hobo]

YOU WILL BE FORCE REGISTERED BY YOUR VET FOR VARIOUS REASONS INCLUDING GETTING A COGGINS TESTS OR SOME VACCINATIONS.

Please read the document carefully it is to large to just copy and paste here.
http://www.libertyark.net/APHIS-PIN-Mandate-080922.pdf

[Gypsy Rose]

Here is the link to the official site- you don't have to download the file if you don't wish to- if you look at the date the page was modified, it was modified today, and the best I can see, participation is still optional for horse owners.

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/

[Hobo]

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::h ysterical::

Like you should really believe the "official" website that is hiding the truth from you and every one else.

Seriously, they just WANT YOU to THINK it will still be voluntary., Mean while MY OWN state is following the same rules as the memo that is posted in my original link. That means if you own a horse in the state of New Mexico and you get a coggins test on your horse you WILL BE REQUIRED to have a premise id number. And the memo in the link above states that if the owner REFUSES, then the veterinarian will be REQUIRED to collect your information and force register you with NAIS.

[Gypsy Rose]

I'll believe it when I see it. I'm sure that if it becomes mandatory ANYWHERE, one of the numerous newsletters i get will alert me to it.

I'm not saying that they aren't trying- just that at this point, there are too many complications with it, because horses move as a general rule a lot more than livestock.

[Remali]

I'm with Gypsy Rose on this one......nothing like that is mandatory.

Also want to add, vaccinations are NOT mandatory either.

[Hobo]

Really so it is JUST coincidence that the SAME month that the first posted memo comes out and the State of NM starts holding 'MEETINGS" to put out the SAME basic information ( ie Mandatory components) As the original memo????



To: R-CALF USA Members and Affiliates

(New Mexico / NAIS / Premises Registration)


From: Bill Bullard, CEO

Date: September 4, 2008

Subject: New Mexico Livestock Board / State DVM to Require Cattle Producers
To Have Premises Identification Number When Animals Tested for
Tuberculosis, Brucellosis, Scrapie, Coggins Tests, Chronic Wasting Disease
Newcastle Disease, and Others

It has been brought to our attention that the New Mexico Livestock Board is holding a meeting at 2 p.m. MDT this afternoon at the Tucumcari, N.M., convention center where the guest speaker will be Dr. Dave Fly, New Mexico's state veterinarian.

Because New Mexico will soon lose its TB Free accreditation, "producers will be required to have a premises identification number (PIN) when they have animals tested," according to the flyer that announced the meeting.

"In addition," the flyer continues, "any producer involvement with a program disease will require a PIN. Program diseases include: TB, Brucellosis, Scrapie, Coggins Tests, chronic wasting disease and exotic Newcastle disease, and others. For more info call Quay Co. Extension 575 461 0562."

R-CALF USA believes USDA is being disingenuous by claiming that premises registration is voluntary at the federal level, when at the same time, the agency is encouraging states to systematically mandate such registration. Premises registration is indeed voluntary on the federal level. What New Mexico is doing is under its own state power, which means there is nothing to prevent the state of New Mexico from doing this.

If you are concerned that you are being unduly pressured into registering your premises, contact Ron Parker in Las Cruces at this phone number: 575-646-1709. You can also contact the livestock board in Albuquerque at: 505-841-6161.

R-CALF USA is opposed to the National Animal Identification System (NAIS) and has asked Congress to immediately halt any further advancement of NAIS and to conduct an oversight hearing to investigate USDA's NAIS activities.
__________________

[Hobo]

And then it must also be just a coincidence that the USDA NAIS business plan has some of that same information including discussion of making Premise ID mandatory for coggins tests.

http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/naislibrary/documents/plans_reports/NAIS_Business_Plan.pdf

read pages 26 and 27

Opportunities to Advance Traceability
Coggins testing is a prerequisite for all interstate movement (State requirement),
and in some States, for intrastate movement as well. Efforts are underway to
develop a USDA national State-Federal cooperative program for the control of EIA that would establish national EIA (Coggins) testing requirements for (a) interstate movement and (b) change of ownership. Horses must be identified (description/drawing, digital photograph, electronic implant) on the requisite
Coggins test-related paperwork. Overall, establishing regulations to require premises registration in association with Coggins testing would substantively increase the number of both premises registered and horses identified. When horses move interstate to attend shows or exhibitions, registration is required upon entry. Accordingly, event officials are able to track horses moving intrastate or interstate (via interstate passport) to the farm of origin. Concurrently, animal health officials are able to track to the premises of origin and destination via ICVI for horses moving interstate. Though impossible to
quantify nationally, experience has shown that the number of Coggins tests performed annually increased three-fold following implementation of a “changeof- ownership” testing requirement in Texas.
The NAIS Equine Species Working Group has recommended the use of ISOcompliant
injectable transponders for horse identification.
Recommended Actions
 Integrate the standardized PIN on Coggins test-related paperwork;
 Implement the recording of PINs for the destination of all imported
horses and the last premises of exported horses;
 Use PINs for both premises of origin and destination on ICVIs;
 Collaborate equine organizations to integrate the utilization of the AIN
“840” identification devices;
 Expand the utilization of electronic ICVI; and
 Provide communication standards to support industry efforts to integrate
automated data capture technologies at equine events and establish
necessary interfaces with APHIS-VS information systems.

[Gypsy Rose]

It has been recommended, but not implemented yet for horses.

As far as the Coggins testing, this has also been in the works for quite some time. Nowhere does it state that every horse owner will be required to participate in this program, even if their horse does not leave their county or state.

At this point, it would apply to traveling across state lines, public horse activities, and transfer of ownership- if and/or when it takes effect!

[Remali]

True. Coggins and vaccinations are not mandatory. And neither is NAIS.

Altho Coggins are required for certain events, and if you transport your horse across state lines.

[FredRock]

Altho Coggins are required for certain events, and if you transport your horse across state lines.

And in NY anytime your horse leaves your property. Or if you board your horse (at least the barn is saying you need a recent one, not the gov't.)

[Horserider]

I don't like that at all. It's only the beginning.

Would someone like to turn all the stuff on the first link into words that I can understand?

[Remali]

True FredRock, some stables do require a recent Coggins, altho here in WI there are still some that do not.....altho not many. But it is still up to the barn owner.

[Hobo]

Plain and simple terms the memo states that a premise Id would be required for certian disease testing (including but not limited to coggins tests) and that if you as the owner refuse to comply and fail to fill out the paperwork for a premise ID, the veterinarian is required to fill in that information for you and involuntarily sign you up for a premise ID.


I don't like that at all. It's only the beginning.

Would someone like to turn all the stuff on the first link into words that I can understand?

[Horserider]

Plain and simple terms the memo states that a premise Id would be required for certian disease testing (including but not limited to coggins tests) and that if you as the owner refuse to comply and fail to fill out the paperwork for a premise ID, the veterinarian is required to fill in that information for you and involuntarily sign you up for a premise ID.


That's ridiculous!!! What's the point??? It's just taking even more taxpayers money in a time when things like this shouldn't even be considered let alone passed!!!

Now plane tickets to Australia cost how much?

[Remali]

It isn't mandatory Horserider....it is just in the discussion stage..... I doubt it would become mandatory.

[WashingtonBay]

I don't like it a bit.... but in trying to read what it actually says, and not having enough coffee this morning yet, doesn't it say

State DVM to Require Cattle Producers
To Have Premises Identification Number When Animals Tested for
Tuberculosis, Brucellosis, Scrapie, Coggins Tests

Cattle producers and Coggins tests? Do cattle have coggins tests?

BTW, we don't need Coggins testing here, I've never done it. This can vary quite a bit based on state.

[Horserider]

Oh gosh I hope not.

[Remali]

I could use some coffee too.....lol! :)

[cyb]

I didn't read the whole article, but you are saying that its mandatory for horses to be vaccinated and to have coggins tests done if the horse is to leave your premesis, I already vaccinate 2 times a year and I am glad to know that other horses are as well so diseases are less likely to be spread. What is the down side of this?

[WashingtonBay]

The downside to NAIS is in the implications of some of the more intrusive details of it, namely, the idea that you would have to send a report every time an animal leaves the premises... for a trail ride, for a show, for any reason, and report where you went.

Not horribly intrusive for cattle producers who may move a steer once or twice in it's life, but for people who trailer and trail ride frequently, it's a big burden. For starters it's a huge data management burden for the feds, logging each and every horse trip everywhere across the country and a huge waste of money.

And what if there is some kind of outbreak at a place I've been? What if it's really easy for them to do a simple search of all horses who have been there and an order to quarantine or even euthanize them all, or all horses within a given radius, just to be on the 'safe' side? Even if I had no contact with other horses while there? There's no limit in the legislation for what they intend to DO with the information. No mention of due process or compensation if they end up taking animals.

[Ryle]

I NEVER believe sites posted by people who are not associated with the NAIS program itself because the information is often incorrect and written in such a way as to be inflammatory--they are after all trying to prove a point. Much like the media with using words that incite a bigger emotional response than what the actual events of a situation would do.

You have to take into account that the people writing a website don't have to really know anything or understand anything or even have completely read the information that they are arguing over. Get the story straight from the source---you will always be better off.

NAIS compliance is still voluntary.

[Remali]

Well said Cindy.

[WashingtonBay]

You're right Cindy, there's bias on those sites... of course, the official site has a bias too, it's trying to make it sound 'good'.

[walkinthewalk]

I haven't followed the NAIS intrusion for many months, but have been aware of and started reading about it nearly 4 years ago.

Unless the USDA has made some changes, this program is an all-inclusive program regarding LIVESTOCK.

The word livestock covers anything from cattle and horses, all the way down to that one chicken and rooster that provide eggs every morning for Grandma.

Their sorry-butt story for I.D'ng every creature that falls into the "L" category, is to be better able to track disease outbreak.

The USDA already has a plan in place to do that and it would be an efficient plan if they would hire more people.

They want this NAIS plan instead and it, in turn, will make quite a few non-deserving people/companies wealthy ------ starting with the company that will be blessed to produce these microchips that can be tracked via satellite.

So far, this poppycock of a plan is not federally mandated, BUT it is my understanding that states have the right to make NAIS mandatory if they want to.

Tennessee's Governor Bredesen did go on record via the news when he first got elected that he would never consider making NAIS mandatory in Tennessee. That could change simply because he might think twice or when the day comes that we get a new Governor.

I personally, am dead set against it. All it boils down to is Big Brother sticking his nose in my back yard where it has no business being if NAIS does end up becoming Federally mandated.

Here is the wikipedia explanation of NAIS. It is accurate and easy to read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Animal_Identification_System

Here is the AHC's mission statement regarding NAIS. The AHC was really against NAIS when I first started reading, but they have since cowed down. Their reasoning for that was they felt NAIS is not going away so they might as well get on the bandwagon to try to establish a fair plan for breeder/sellers, training barns, boarding barns, and the average Joe trying to keep a horse.
http://horsecouncil.org/regulations/nais.html

There are many livestock factions that are against NAIS. The only people that are really for this program are those in the USDA.

It is not prudent to just read what the USDA prints and believe it.

Google NAIS in your own state and find out what your Farm Bureau's co-op's, state government, etc. are requiring of you for the 2009 show/trail riding/breeding season on any type of livestock you own.

Read the USDA's latest "NAIS" rules.

By staying informed and on top of this detestable program, you won't at least feel like you've been smacked in the face with a dirty diaper if it ever does become federally mandated.

Or, better yet, if you disagree, keep in touch with the grass-roots organizations that are fighting NAIS.

If NAIS becomes federally mandated, we have just given Old Dobbin, the handful of family chickens, and Molly the milk cow over to socialism.

The government will essentially own their skins and feathers while we struggle to pay their bills because it will be the USDA telling us what we all must have to take our livestock off our property. And it just goes downhill from there-----------------

[Hobo]

NEVER said that a coggins test or vaccinations are mandatory I don't understand where you all got that one, however WHEN you get a coggins tests on your horse you will be REQUIRED to have a premise ID number and if you refuse they will register you without your permission and or consent.


NAIS will be mandatory in order for you to GET a Coggins test.

The downside of NAIS is that it is a totally unconstitutional and comunistic porgram to tag and track all of the livestock animal owners of the country in a more invasive program then criminal sex offenders get tracked.


I didn't read the whole article, but you are saying that its mandatory for horses to be vaccinated and to have coggins tests done if the horse is to leave your premesis, I already vaccinate 2 times a year and I am glad to know that other horses are as well so diseases are less likely to be spread. What is the down side of this?