Election Night Central! Gather Here!

[JackieB]

Hello Everyone,

This is our official election night thread. Well, unless someone started a different one. Let's gather and enjoy each other's company tonight.

A couple of ground rules.

Be civil as always
Be sensitive to the feelings of others. If the election is going your way, great. It's fine to express your happiness. But please be gracious toward others who might be unhappy with the results. We've all been there before and know what it feels like. If the election isn't going your way, please recall how delighted you've been in the past when your candidates have won and appreciate why others are so happy.
Here we go!

[Flair]

Got a couple of states with closed polls. McCain got Kentucky, Obama got Vermont.

[Remali]

Well as long as my computer cooperates and lets me stay online, I'm here....LOL. My computer has been having fits.....

Anyway, this election is SOOOOO nerve-wracking, isn't it?!

[cloedoll]

I'm very anxious to see the results. I don't know why, but politics held my interest greatly this year.

[WashingtonBay]

~sip~

[Mandzanita]

I'm currently reading up on all of our props so I can just cast my yes or no when I get to the polls...man they are making me THINK! As far as the presidential candidate, my minds made up and I'm excited to see who gets it! I have a feeling we won't be knowing for a little while longer.

[JackieB]

McCain just got South Carolina

[Horserider]

:popcorn: The election's personally nerve-wracking for me. But of course I realize that I'm going to have to live with whatever everyone else decides for the next 4 years.

Just changed the channel to listen. Can't wait until this is all over and the results are finally in. Just hoping that Prop 2 (michigan one) does not pass.

[Flair]

Hey, JackieB.

Explain something for me I'm never quite clear on, please.

Reports seem to be that Obama got more votes in S.C. than McCain did, but McCain got the electorals. I'm given to understand those are different right?

[Mandzanita]

Horserider...what was your prop 2? I hope my prop 2 passes!

[cloedoll]

Anxiety...=P

[Horserider]

Horserider...what was your prop 2? I hope my prop 2 passes!

Using human embryos for stem cell research. It goes way too far.

[lovesfortune]

I'm here. Just waiting. I think I'll have a beverage, which WB gave me the idea for! ;)

[JackieB]

PA for Obama!!!! Woo! Hoo! That was a big one in the balance.

[cloedoll]

PA for Obama!!!! Woo! Hoo! That was a big one in the balance.

Yeah and a buncha other states! Lol.

[JackieB]

Yeah and a buncha other states! Lol.

Yes, but PA was one of the real battleground states. The rest have all been as expected so far.

[Flair]

Obama in the lead!

[cloedoll]

Yes, but PA was one of the real battleground states. The rest have all been as expected so far.

I suppose. =P

[Horserider]

:rant: I'm not liking this...

[Cat]

Dang - Mitch McConnell won KY Senate. :(

[vicklynn]

:rant: I'm not liking this...
Its still early.

[JackieB]

Dang - Mitch McConnell won KY Senate. :(

Well, it was a good battle. The fact that his race was even close says a lot.

[JackieB]

:rant: I'm not liking this...

It is early like Vick said, and if it doesn't go your way in the end, try not to be too upset. There are checks and balances in the system and the whole thing comes back up in four short years anyway.

[SuperSTB]

Opening the bottle of wine, cutting up some cheese & crackers, washing off some grapes and slicing up some fresh apple. I will watch the election and do a little computer stuff :)

Thankfully I'm on the left coast so lots of action will happen before it's bed time!!!

Party at my house:popcorn:

[WashingtonBay]

Well, we'll see, but history would tend to indicate a pendulum swing is to be expected. I wish the timing were better, but perhaps the timing will never be good.

The good news is, Republicans are really much happier being the party in opposition. We know how to play defense well, probably better than the democrats do :)

[SuperSTB]

This is funny:

http://www.ireport.com/blogs/ireport-blog/2008/11/04/new-president-new-baby#comment

[lovesfortune]

MMM.... the kids are in bed, my beverage is next to me and I have nothing to do but wait.

[JackieB]

The good news is, Republicans are really much happier being the party in opposition. We know how to play defense well, probably better than the democrats do :)

That's true. It does seem like the Republicans have often been more effective in helping us see the flaws of the existing Administration and Congress than in formally being in charge themselves.

[JackieB]

Elizabeth Dole lost.

[vicklynn]

Ya know, the thing that gets me is, I just watched some southern states, yes black, and they voted by race, talked about history, Martin Luter King, water hoses, dogs, ect. Does anyone see what could happen with that?
I see it, been seeing it, and now the people are showing it. They will use their history as a negative, there will be problems.
I am the last person to call a racist, but I tell ya, change may NOT be so good.

[Ryderd65]

I have to leave for class soon, but I'll be back later to celebrate or commiserate with everyone. JackieB, can you keep my chair warm for me? :)

[missdixie]

Ugh I have been feeling sick with nerves all day. I want Obama to win so badly!

[JackieB]

Georgia for McCain. That was one that was potentially in play.

[Mandzanita]

Man, I need to get off work and vote!!

[missdixie]

Ya know, the thing that gets me is, I just watched some southern states, yes black, and they voted by race, talked about history, Martin Luter King, water hoses, dogs, ect. Does anyone see what could happen with that?
I see it, been seeing it, and now the people are showing it. They will use their history as a negative, there will be problems.
I am the last person to call a racist, but I tell ya, change may NOT be so good.
At the same time, think of how many people won't be voting for Obama because he's black. AND, people keep forgetting that he is half and half. He's as much white as he is black.

[Horserider]

Ugh I have been feeling sick with nerves all day. I want Obama to win so badly!

I've been the same way, only I want McCain to win more than anything right now.

[JackieB]

JackieB, can you keep my chair warm for me? :)

Yes, absolutely.

[missdixie]

LOL well one of us will be REALLY sick by the end of the night.

[vicklynn]

At the same time, think of how many people won't be voting for Obama because he's black. AND, people keep forgetting that he is half and half. He's as much white as he is black.
I hear you, but what I am saying is, whites arent gonna go off if he wins, its just the opposite. I dont think you are seeing what Im saying, and thats ok.

[Arrow]

Ya know, the thing that gets me is, I just watched some southern states, yes black, and they voted by race, talked about history, Martin Luter King, water hoses, dogs, ect. Does anyone see what could happen with that?
I see it, been seeing it, and now the people are showing it. They will use their history as a negative, there will be problems.
I am the last person to call a racist, but I tell ya, change may NOT be so good.

Eh--some whites did the same for McCain, I'd call it a wash. Blacks are less than 15% of the population--Obama couldn't win with blacks alone. In some of the states, they're saying that Obama got more WHITE votes than Kerry did!!!

[vicklynn]

Whites are not going to rebel folks. oh never mind

[Arrow]

Hmmmm...I'm not sure I agree with that.

[missdixie]

Okay I see what you're saying Vick- the black people are going to go nuts if McCain wins, or if Obama wins? Either way I think you are seriously underestimating the black population- I think there will be a few nutzo's but it will not be the rule.

[vicklynn]

I can teach you black history, lived in the middle of it for yrs. I am going to let this drop. It will be what it will be.

[lovesfortune]

I get what you are saying Vick. I just hope it's not the case if it happens.

15 min. til more polls close!

[Horserider]

15 min. til more polls close!

*needs a smiley biting it's nails* I'm kinda glad my mom's at work right now.

[missdixie]

Whatever you say. I think it's a good idea to let that discussion end here. It's a horse forum. We don't need to get into race stuff.

[vicklynn]

I pray for either of them as presidents, to lead us in the right direction.

[vicklynn]

*needs a smiley biting it's nails* I'm kinda glad my mom's at work right now.
me too, I vote for smiley biting its nails..lol

[JackieB]

*needs a smiley biting it's nails* I'm kinda glad my mom's at work right now.

Glad you are so interested in how our country is governed, horserider! Forumers like you, cloedoll, and others give me a good feeling about the future direction of our country.

[vicklynn]

Whatever you say. I think it's a good idea to let that discussion end here. It's a horse forum. We don't need to get into race stuff.
Unless its horse racing...ok, Im ducking now.

[MyHorseBiggs]

Horserider...what was your prop 2? I hope my prop 2 passes!

Is your prop 2 the one about the range vs. caged chickens? :huh: And we talked to a egg farmer and he says chickens are under more distress when they live range. That means more broken legs, more chickens dieing, and less eggs because they're unhappy. And on the comercials they only show the really bad farms which there are few of but the one we went to their chickens were happy and clean and were producing a lot of eggs which means they're happy.:) Just saying... :innocent:

[shewasmyshadow]

*needs a smiley biting it's nails* I'm kinda glad my mom's at work right now.

I'm so nervous I'm not sitting with my hubby watching the news. Instead I'm hiding in the computer room surfing the web. I can't help McCain win simply by watching/wishing, so I'm sitting in here.:rolleyes:

[lovesfortune]

http://r0b.us/images/smilies/nailbite.gif

[WashingtonBay]

~sip~

[Sundays Man]

Ya know, the thing that gets me is, I just watched some southern states, yes black, and they voted by race, talked about history, Martin Luter King, water hoses, dogs, ect. Does anyone see what could happen with that?
I see it, been seeing it, and now the people are showing it. They will use their history as a negative, there will be problems.
I am the last person to call a racist, but I tell ya, change may NOT be so good.

I'm checking in here. On the road and been busy.
Vick, I see racism all over the place here. Looking even at FNC, they want to show all the stats on white evangelicals white this and white that. What about just plain ole evangelicals and plain ole this and that sort of people. In Alabama they are talking about how the African American vote is going to change some things in that state. Are people completely brain dead.? Are we really voting race or party so strictly that we pretend we don't see what's really going on? It's not this group or that group voting as far as I can see. It's the American people voting!! We will get what we ask for no matter who wins. Time and history will be the judge.

I share some of your concern Vick.

Oh well, I hear Georgia went to McCain. That's my state and proud to claim them.

[vicklynn]

http://r0b.us/images/smilies/nailbite.gif
show off

[lovesfortune]

show off

LOL. I'm suprised I managed to find one. I'm lacking in the smilie dept.

[Sundays Man]

Eh--some whites did the same for McCain, I'd call it a wash. Blacks are less than 15% of the population--Obama couldn't win with blacks alone. In some of the states, they're saying that Obama got more WHITE votes than Kerry did!!!

Where do you get those stats? 15%.

[JackieB]

Is your prop 2 the one about the range vs. caged chickens? :huh:

Yes, that's the one.

[cloedoll]

Glad you are so interested in how our country is governed, horserider! Forumers like you, cloedoll, and others give me a good feeling about the future direction of our country.

xD

I'm not posting too much, my face is glued to the darn t.v.! =P

[Sundays Man]

Okay I see what you're saying Vick- the black people are going to go nuts if McCain wins, or if Obama wins? Either way I think you are seriously underestimating the black population- I think there will be a few nutzo's but it will not be the rule.

Can you say "Rodney King"?

[missdixie]

As long as you vote democrat... lol j/k don't hit me!

[missdixie]

are you freaking serious sunday's man? do we need to go there?

[JackieB]

Michigan (my home state) and Wisconsin (lovesfortune) for Obama. A bunch of other ones just called by NBC. I didn't get them all.

[missdixie]

LOL don't you dare watch NBC JackieB, you'll get tarred and feathered around here. Better switch over to Fox to see what's really going on :innocent:

[Horserider]

Is your prop 2 the one about the range vs. caged chickens? And we talked to a egg farmer and he says chickens are under more distress when they live range. That means more broken legs, more chickens dieing, and less eggs because they're unhappy. And on the comercials they only show the really bad farms which there are few of but the one we went to their chickens were happy and clean and were producing a lot of eggs which means they're happy. Just saying...

Umm...no... I've never even heard of that one. Prop 2 for Michigan has to do with using human embryos for stem cell research.

I'm so nervous I'm not sitting with my hubby watching the news. Instead I'm hiding in the computer room surfing the web. I can't help McCain win simply by watching/wishing, so I'm sitting in here.

True.

Yes, that's the one.

No it's not... This is Michigan's Prop 2. See: http://inkslwc.wordpress.com/2008/09/18/michigan-ballot-for-2008-proposal-2-stem-cell-research/


Glad you are so interested in how our country is governed, horserider! Forumers like you, cloedoll, and others give me a good feeling about the future direction of our country.

xD

I'm not posting too much, my face is glued to the darn t.v.! =P

LOL hey it's my country too. Despite what most teenagers that I know think this can affect us too.

[Flair]

CNN's calling 174 for Obama. And California's polls with 55 EVs don't close for 2 hours. ;)

[Cat]

Hey - I'm from MI and lived in WI for a couple years. Yippie! Just need to get my current state in line!

[WashingtonBay]

SM - Lets just see how it goes. I don't wanna predict.

[missdixie]

Good for you for being involved and informed Horserider, even if you can't vote yet ;)

[Mandzanita]

Is your prop 2 the one about the range vs. caged chickens? :huh: And we talked to a egg farmer and he says chickens are under more distress when they live range. That means more broken legs, more chickens dieing, and less eggs because they're unhappy. And on the comercials they only show the really bad farms which there are few of but the one we went to their chickens were happy and clean and were producing a lot of eggs which means they're happy.:) Just saying... :innocent:

The proposition is actually only requiring that calves raised for veal, egg-laying hens and pregnant pigs be confined in ways that allow them to lie down, stand up, fully extend their limbs and turn around freely. Not asking too much if you ask me...

[JackieB]

Umm...no... I've never even heard of that one. Prop 2 for Michigan has to do with using human embryos for stem cell research.



California's Proposition 2, horserider. WB was asking Mandzanita about her state.

By the way, our Prop 2 is too close to call at the moment.

[missdixie]

Does anyone know where to get the info on the California props? I voted absentee and I'm in WA so I can't see on the news what's going on in CA....

[JackieB]

Not asking too much if you ask me...

That's for sure! It was heavily favored in the last poll I saw. I sure hope it passes!

[lovesfortune]

I think I should switch to NBC. I'm on CNN and I don't think they've come out with WI yet.

[JackieB]

I think I should switch to NBC. I'm on CNN and I don't think they've come out with WI yet.

CNN is being more careful, which isn't a bad idea, really.

[missdixie]

Mandzanita, JackieB I voted yes on Prop 2, I agree.

[Mandzanita]

http://www.voterguide.sos.ca.gov/

Here are the CA props....on the left

[Arrow]

Where do you get those stats? 15%.

It's actually 12.9 percent according to the 2000 U.S. census.

African Americans--almost all slaves--were about 20% at the time of the American Revolution, and that's in fact the highest percentage they've ever reached.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-5.pdf

[Sundays Man]

are you freaking serious sunday's man? do we need to go there?

MD, the answer to your question is NO. It did happen, and I hope it never happens again. I am really concerned about what's going to happen in Chicago, win or loose. With that many people together, there's bound to be some instigators in the midst and it is scary considering how charged this whole election has been. I hope we see nothing but joyous celebration on either side.

Sorry about the RK remark. However, that was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever lived through; and for what? It was a national event over a local incident. And once again, we can thank our media for a lot of that. They play us like puppets.

[Horserider]

Originally Posted by Horserider
Umm...no... I've never even heard of that one. Prop 2 for Michigan has to do with using human embryos for stem cell research.


California's Proposition 2, horserider. WB was asking Mandzanita about her state.

By the way, our Prop 2 is too close to call at the moment.


Ohhhh sorry.

[MyHorseBiggs]

(CA prop 2) I've done a lot of research and it would be better for it not to pass actually, all the egg farms would have to close because it would cost to much for them to go range.

And for people who know about prop 8 in CA what do you think?

[JackieB]

Does anyone know where to get the info on the California props? I voted absentee and I'm in WA so I can't see on the news what's going on in CA....

CNN.com has full results by state.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/state/#CA

[Arrow]

I'm watching CNN.

[Sundays Man]

It's actually 12.9 percent according to the 2000 U.S. census.

African Americans--almost all slaves--were about 20% at the time of the American Revolution, and that's in fact the highest percentage they've ever reached.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-5.pdf

That's interesting. I would have thought the Af. Am. population to be much higher.

[missdixie]

SM, I understand what you're saying, but I think there is just as much of a likelihood of racist southern whites causing trouble. I hope nothing will happen ( and I don't think it will ). I see where you're coming from, but don't just assume the blacks are the only ones who could get volatile.

[lovesfortune]

I am really concerned about what's going to happen in Chicago, win or loose. With that many people together, there's bound to be some instigators in the midst and it is scary considering how charged this whole election has been. I hope we see nothing but joyous celebration on either side.



I have a friend of a friend who is at that rally in Chicago right now. I hope that it stays safe as well. There are SO MANY people there. They showed it on TV and it's just crazy.

[Horserider]

What channel is CNN on cable? Anyone know?

[Mandzanita]

(CA prop 2) I've done a lot of research and it would be better for it not to pass actually, all the egg farms would have to close because it would cost to much for them to go range.

And for people who know about prop 8 in CA what do you think?

That is definitely NOT true...you talked to an egg farmer....who would be required to spend more money to redo his confinements...of course he's not going to like it. This prop is not requiring ANYONE to go the range route, they are simply required to make their cages bigger. They will not go out of business (the one's that do probably should not be in the business anyway) Most likely what will happen is the cost of eggs/veal/pork will go up...fine by me. We already have a pretty fair market for free range eggs as it is in California so I don't see it doing too much to the egg industry.

[missdixie]

MyHorseBiggs, I voted no on prop 8.

[JackieB]

That is definitely NOT true...you talked to an egg farmer....who would be required to spend more money to redo his confinements...of course he's not going to like it. This prop is not requiring ANYONE to go the range route, they are simply required to make their cages bigger. They will not go out of business (the one's that do probably should not be in the business anyway) Most likely what will happen is the cost of eggs/veal/pork will go up...fine by me. We already have a pretty fair market for free range eggs as it is in California so I don't see it doing too much to the egg industry.

Mandzanita is my hero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mandzanita]

MyHorseBiggs....have you actually read the whole prop or are you just going by what that egg farmer told you?

[Arrow]

CNN is 202 on Directv, don't know about other systems.

[JackieB]

And that's what it is all the egg farms would have to go range not just for them to strech their limbs.

No, they absolutely would not have to go free range. I know this to be 100% fact.

[lovesfortune]

whoa, this is a hot thread tonight. 18 people!

[Horserider]

Most likely what will happen is the cost of eggs/veal/pork

Cost go up??? How is that a good thing? Aren't families struggling enough already? I've never eaten veal and never will, but eggs are a staple. The cost of everything is high enough already and if the price on anything goes up it's a bad idea in my opinion. Sure chickens should be kept in good conditions, but the economy is bad enough already and this country needs to prioritize. We can't have everything at once.

[Cat]

MD, the answer to your question is NO. It did happen, and I hope it never happens again. I am really concerned about what's going to happen in Chicago, win or loose. With that many people together, there's bound to be some instigators in the midst and it is scary considering how charged this whole election has been. I hope we see nothing but joyous celebration on either side.


I really, really hope nothing happens in Chicago. My sister is there right now - and not just living there, but as in, actually in the middle of this whole mess.

[missdixie]

Horserider, it actually wouldn't take effect for like 8-10 years, I forget exactly.

[Mandzanita]

Horserider...Personally paying a dollar more for eggs isn't going to break my bank, i buy free range anyway so my egg price will stay the same.

[MyHorseBiggs]

MyHorseBiggs....have you actually read the whole prop or are you just going by what that egg farmer told you?

No I've read the whole prop, I still believe people should vote no.

[Horserider]

I really, really hope nothing happens in Chicago. My sister is there right now - and not just living there, but as in, actually in the middle of this whole mess.

What's wrong with Chicago?

[Arrow]

I vote no on all amendments to the Ohio Constitution on principle because I believe that the system is being abused, and we're voting on stuff that has no place in a constitution. I mean come on--smoking, casinos in a CONSTITUTION--it's just ridiculous. According to my sister, Colorado's actually voting on making ballot initiatives fairer by requiring support throughout the state for them to be on the ballot.

[Mandzanita]

No I've read the whole prop, I still believe people should vote no.

And that's your right. I'll be voting Yes :)

[Horserider]

Horserider, it actually wouldn't take effect for like 8-10 years, I forget exactly.

8-10 years? What's the point in voting on it now then? What's the wait?

Horserider...Personally paying a dollar more for eggs isn't going to break my bank, i buy free range anyway so my egg price will stay the same.

I'm curious is there really a difference between the taste of free range eggs and regular eggs?

[lovesfortune]

Chicago is where Obama is going to have a rally after this is all over, whether he wins or loses...since IL is "his" state. So the amount of people is out of control. Think SuperBowl Crowd X 1,000

[missdixie]

Woohoo obama got ohio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Flair]

And for people who know about prop 8 in CA what do you think?

Voted No on Prop 8.

I heard someone say it this way: Vote No on Prop 8. Let everyone be miserable in marriage. ;)

[missdixie]

Horserider, it's so that it doesn't put an undue stress on Farmers' finances, it gives them plenty of time to implement it.

[JackieB]

Ohio for Obama!!!!!! That's huge. Beyond huge.

[JackieB]

horserider, it actually wouldn't take effect for like 8-10 years, i forget exactly.

2015

[Mandzanita]

I'm curious is there really a difference between the taste of free range eggs and regular eggs?

Not that I have noticed but there are certain things I'm willing to pay more for...

Okay I'm off to cast my votes!! :cowboy:

[Horserider]

:rant: I sooo do not like this. They just said on whatever channel I'm watching that it's very unlikely that McCain will be able to win now.

[missdixie]

Dude it's in the BAG JackieB!

[JackieB]

What's wrong with Chicago?


Nothing. Just a huge outdoor party. That makes people worry about violence. I love to watch the police horses at these events, though!

[MyHorseBiggs]

And that's your right. I'll be voting Yes :)

I'm not voting at all. Just stating what I believe in. xD I'm just glued to the TV. :p And what do you think about prop 8?

[Sundays Man]

SM, I understand what you're saying, but I think there is just as much of a likelihood of racist southern whites causing trouble. I hope nothing will happen ( and I don't think it will ). I see where you're coming from, but don't just assume the blacks are the only ones who could get volatile.

Missdixie, I don't consider myself racist even though I was raised in the middle of it; and I'm not saying you were calling me that. I think ANY group is capable of volatility if the circumstances are right. I have friends who are well educated, dumb as dirt (like myself), some have common sense, and some can't find their way home. They are from many nationalities but that never came into play. My favorite people are horse people and they come in all colors. Heck I've even seen some of us horse people get volatile over some things. Everyone is capable of being caught up in it. Maybe everyone in the world should deal with problems on a "forum"; at least we wouldn't be cracking each other's heads. LOL.

[JackieB]

Dude it's in the BAG JackieB!

Bite your tongue, missdixie. I don't want to hear that again until the count passes 270.

[missdixie]

LOL sorry I won't jinx it...... but you're for Obama aren't you? Or maybe I pegged you totally wrong?

[Cat]

Chicago is where Obama is going to have a rally after this is all over, whether he wins or loses...since IL is "his" state. So the amount of people is out of control. Think SuperBowl Crowd X 1,000

Exactly - and my little sister is in the middle of that mess. :eek: She just graduated HS and I would tuck her away safe and sound somewhere if I could for the next 10 years - not have her in what potentially could turn out to the equivalant of a shaken up hornets nest.

[lovesfortune]

Yep, same here Cat. The girl I know is at the rally too. Not just there in the city. Even if he wins it could still get out of control. People are crazy sometimes.

[JackieB]

LOL sorry I won't jinx it...... but you're for Obama aren't you? Or maybe I pegged you totally wrong?

No, you've got it right. I'm a huge Obama supporter. I'm also just superstitious about these things. But, the pundits are saying on TV right now that McCain's campaign said that there was no way they could win without Ohio.

[missdixie]

No republican has EVER won without Ohio EVER.

[Flair]

Ohio is big! And if Obama gets Florida, that's big too considering those were the important states in 2000 and 2004

[missdixie]

LOL all this election posting is making my little dragon eggs crack! I'm going to name them Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

[lovesfortune]

Wow.. can you imagine what it would be like to be McCain or Obama right now watching this all unfold? I mean, we are all biting our nails here... but ???

[Sundays Man]

No republican has EVER won without Ohio EVER.

Until this election.:p

[missdixie]

I don't think Florida even matters much at this point. With Ohio Obama's got 200, and the west coast is a given- 285 right there.

[JackieB]

No republican has EVER won without Ohio EVER.

Interestingly, and shockingly, the exit polls showed that Republicans in Ohio stayed home! That is almost unthinkable to me. Republicans always vote. The lowest Republican turnout ever in Ohio.

[JackieB]

I don't think Florida even matters much at this point. With Ohio Obama's got 200, and the west coast is a given- 285 right there.

Would you just shut up? :p

[missdixie]

WOW, Arrow must have been out handing out fliers or something

[Flair]

Obama just got New Mexico too.

[missdixie]

ROFL it's Keith Olberman, not me JackieB!

[MyHorseBiggs]

Wow.. can you imagine what it would be like to be McCain or Obama right now watching this all unfold? I mean, we are all biting our nails here... but ???

I know I thought about that I wonder what they're doing? xD

[JackieB]

Wow.. can you imagine what it would be like to be McCain or Obama right now watching this all unfold? I mean, we are all biting our nails here... but ???

I can't hardly imagine. All the emotions from two years of 18 hour days. I have to believe that for most of the campaign workers that tears just come pouring out, win or lose.

[MyHorseBiggs]

Until this election.:p

Hopefully he'll be the first. :D

[JackieB]

ROFL it's Keith Olberman, not me JackieB!

Alright, well I'll tell him to pipe down, then. Don't count chickens before they hatch!

[MyHorseBiggs]

What's the next state to be anounced McCain or Barack?

[cloedoll]

Isn't it fun to watch, lol, I'm very entertained atm.

[MyHorseBiggs]

Or I mean Republican or Democrat

[JackieB]

What's the next state to be anounced McCain or Barack?

Texas for McCain, New Mexico for Obama. Just a few minutes ago.

[missdixie]

Dude I cannot BELIEVE I am not at some Obama party right now, where's the party at?

[lovesfortune]

WB ~ are you still sipping? Need a refill? I'm heading to the kitchen for a refill for me.

[MyHorseBiggs]

Isn't it fun to watch, lol, I'm very entertained atm.

I know!! But the chanel we're watching (Fox news) has a TON of comaricals (sp)

[missdixie]

LOL sorry about all the "dude"s coming out, my California girl comes out when I get excited!

[JackieB]

Dude I cannot BELIEVE I am not at some Obama party right now, where's the party at?

Well, my wife, the beagle, and I are having one right now. No, wait a minute. The beagle is sleeping. Get up dog! Historic night.

[MyHorseBiggs]

missdixie - LOL

[missdixie]

JackieB quick run over to WA I will break out the Arbor Mist ROFL!

[MyHorseBiggs]

I'm going for now but I'll be back to see later

[WashingtonBay]

Olberman... blech. Just as a personal favor to me, be happy if you want, but don't mention Olberman again. Ever. He's just awful. He was smug before, I don't want to know how obnoxious he'll be now. If I saw him right now I'd be tempted to shoot the tv.



On that note, I'm going to switch to local news... we at least still have our governor's race to have hope in for another couple hours. :)

[JackieB]

LOL sorry about all the "dude"s coming out, my California girl comes out when I get excited!

No problem. It is a very exciting night. This is most likely the biggest election I'll ever see in my lifetime.

[missdixie]

LOL I don't blame you WB! Did you see the skit on SNL this weekend?

[JackieB]

And I do want to say a heartfelt thank you to our conservative friends who must not be feeling very optimistic at the moment, but are allowing us to enjoy this moment. You're good friends and we promise to return the favor if the time comes.

[missdixie]

Agreed JackieB, we are not trying to rub your noses in anything. I am just so excited and things are so intense right now (dude)!!!

[Diane of Buck's Hollow]

Georgia for McCain. That was one that was potentially in play.

I am Proud of Georgia!!!

[JackieB]

Olberman... blech. Just as a personal favor to me, be happy if you want, but don't mention Olberman again. Ever. He's just awful. He was smug before, I don't want to know how obnoxious he'll be now. If I saw him right now I'd be tempted to shoot the tv.



On that note, I'm going to switch to local news... we at least still have our governor's race to have hope in for another couple hours. :)

You've got to watch that Ben Afleck skit from SNL, WB. It was hysterical. And I will grant you that the unmentionable commentator can get on one's nerves.

[Horserider]

When's the election gonna close??? My mom comes home in a half hour and she's gonna kick me off the computer... :( What am I going to do if I can't stay on and follow the election with you guys?

[JackieB]

I am just so excited and things are so intense right now (dude)!!!

You bet. It is so exciting. But these are wonderful forum friends of ours, some who aren't very happy right now, and we are grateful to them every single day.

[Sundays Man]

I am Proud of Georgia!!!

Me to Darling, me too. :)

[JackieB]

When's the election gonna close??? My mom comes home in a half hour and she's gonna kick me off the computer... :( What am I going to do if I can't stay on and follow the election with you guys?

Officially, it won't close until days from now or something like that. But as soon as one candidate gets to 270 electoral votes, they will call the presidential race. I'm guessing that this will happen at 11 p.m. Eastern Time

[Sundays Man]

You bet. It is so exciting. But these are wonderful forum friends of ours, some who aren't very happy right now, and we are grateful to them every single day.

JackieB, I am disappointed, but happy non the less. Heck, I lived through the Clinton years and am still kicking. I can take anything. :p But this thing isn't over 'til the "full figured" woman sings!!!!

[lovesfortune]

Anyone have a link to the SNL skits??

[missdixie]

SM I like that you said "darling", I like when people say that. It's so unused in the North : )

[Sundays Man]

SM I like that you said "darling", I like when people say that. It's so unused in the North : )

It also helps that she's my little bride, but yes we do say that a lot down south.

[missdixie]

That's cute!

[missdixie]

Things are so fancy and cordial down there

[JackieB]

Very close in the ballot proposal to expand our animal shelter that is so near and dear to my heart. With 4 of 18 precincts reporting, we have 947 votes in favor and 927 against.

We could sure use some positive thoughts our way. I'm grateful that we are ahead, but I sure wish it wasn't so close.

[missdixie]

::prayers:: jackieb for your little shelter

[missdixie]

whoa that was supposed to be prayers

[missdixie]

iowa to obama

[lovesfortune]

whoa that was supposed to be prayers

LMBO. You are excited!!

[missdixie]

Here's that SNL Skit....
YouTube - Keith Olbermann Parody-SNL-November 1, 2008

[Sundays Man]

Holy Cow!! It just occured to me. I'm in Florida for a few days. I should'a been out cracking some heads for McCain earlier. Dog gone it!!!

Missdixie, you know you can say ANYTHING you want about someone down south and make it o.k. by ending it with "bless his/her heart" or "God bless his/her". Like; Ole Sally is dumb as a brick, bless her heart". So, in that spirit, Obama is a real looser, "God bless 'im.".

[missdixie]

i so am lovesfortune, i am all over the place right now. hubby thinks i'm a maniac i just hope i don't pee my pants before the night is over!

[Diane of Buck's Hollow]

Interestingly, and shockingly, the exit polls showed that Republicans in Ohio stayed home! That is almost unthinkable to me. Republicans always vote. The lowest Republican turnout ever in Ohio.

Those Republicans need their butts whooped!!!

[starkitten]

Yeah for Iowa :)

[JackieB]

whoa that was supposed to be prayers

Yes, I know. And I so appreciate them. We really need an expanded shelter. Ours only has nine kennels and has not been expanded since it was built in 1975. But these are tough times and it's a property tax proposal. So, I can't quite blame people who vote against it, either.

[Cat]

SM I like that you said "darling", I like when people say that. It's so unused in the North : )


Totally different cultures. I guess when our HR lady first started at our company (who is by the way from Canada) tried to claim that all the "darlings" and whatnots were sexual harassment and that southern people are the worse for such things. LOL. I'm from up north but I just love all the "darlings" and what not. And hey - they actually open doors for you down here. :eek:

[missdixie]

me too cat! i had a coworker (female) who called everyone honey and i thought it was so endearing but she got in trouble for it

[Horserider]

WHAT is wrong with Michiganders?????????? 51% Yes and 49% No on Proposal 2 so far!!! If it passes than no one is going to want to talk to me tomorrow because I will not be happy. :mad:

[JackieB]

WHAT is wrong with Michiganders?????????? 51% Yes and 49% No on Proposal 2 so far!!! If it passes than no one is going to want to talk to me tomorrow because I will not be happy. :mad:

That's a heartfelt issue for many, horserider. Please don't blame anyone who votes for it. Stem cells do have the potential to help cure a lot of diseases and it's a complicated issue.

[Sundays Man]

Totally different cultures. I guess when our HR lady first started at our company (who is by the way from Canada) tried to claim that all the "darlings" and whatnots were sexual harassment and that southern people are the worse for such things. LOL. I'm from up north but I just love all the "darlings" and what not. And hey - they actually open doors for you down here. :eek:

People down south don't take themselves so seriously. If you say, mam, darling, sweetie, honey, angel, sugar, baby, etc. It's perfectly acceptable and no one takes it as anything other than what it is, a form of addressing other people with respect and affection. Girls call guys by many of the same names. I think that HR person would have a daily migraine if they moved her to Georgia and tried that stuff, honey.:)

[missdixie]

Wait what is Michigan Prop 2 again?

[lovesfortune]

Anyone have the prediction on Florida? I haven't heard anything, but maybe I missed it?

Thanks for the link MissDixie. It was funny!

[missdixie]

People down south don't take themselves so seriously. If you say, mam, darling, sweetie, honey, angel, sugar, baby, etc. It's perfectly acceptable and no one takes it as anything other than what it is, a form of addressing other people with respect and affection. Girls call guys by many of the same names. I think that HR person would have a daily migraine if they moved her to Georgia and tried that stuff, honey.:)
I really like all that stuff. I wish we did that here... oh well I guess that's what we get for living in liberalvile ;)

[JackieB]

Yikes! More happy thoughts, please. With 6 of 18 precincts reporting, the shelter proposal is losing 1493 to 1581. Still close, though. Come on, Oceana County voters!

[JackieB]

Wait what is Michigan Prop 2 again?

Use of stem cells from discarded embryos.

[missdixie]

Obama leads 51 to 48 in FLA right now with 61 percent in

[Flair]

Anyone have the prediction on Florida? I haven't heard anything, but maybe I missed it?

Thanks for the link MissDixie. It was funny!

Obama leading in NC, Virginia and Florida

[JackieB]

Anyone have the prediction on Florida? I haven't heard anything, but maybe I missed it?

Thanks for the link MissDixie. It was funny!

No, Florida is too close.

[missdixie]

Use of stem cells from discarded embryos.
Well personally I don't believe in abortion, but if someone had one, wouldn't it be good if lives could be saved from it? I'd vote yes.

[Sundays Man]

Use of stem cells from discarded embryos.

How do you get a "discarded embryo"? Never mind, that's another thread already.

[Diane of Buck's Hollow]

People down south don't take themselves so seriously. If you say, mam, darling, sweetie, honey, angel, sugar, baby, etc. It's perfectly acceptable and no one takes it as anything other than what it is, a form of addressing other people with respect and affection. Girls call guys by many of the same names. I think that HR person would have a daily migraine if they moved her to Georgia and tried that stuff, honey.:)

ahhemmmm...did you just call Cat honey? :p (just kidding)

[missdixie]

Uh oh, BUSTED SM!

[Sundays Man]

ahhemmmm...did you just call Cat honey? :p (just kidding)

No! Sweetie, that was directed to the HR person, I was calling her honey....bless your heart.:)

[missdixie]

no! Sweetie, that was directed to the hr person, i was calling her honey....bless your heart.:)
rofl!

[JackieB]

How do you get a "discarded embryo"? Never mind, that's another thread already.

From fertilized embryos that aren't ever transplanted because the couple is able to become pregnant without needing all of the embryos they created. Are pro life citizens generally opposed to a couple storing more embryos than they know they can use?

[missdixie]

Nice block, SM, my hubby would be proud :p

[WashingtonBay]

Yes, Jackie, they are generally opposed to that kind of fertility procedure that makes 'extra' embryos.

[Diane of Buck's Hollow]

No! Sweetie, that was directed to the HR person, I was calling her honey....bless your heart.:)

Oh, okay then...just checking sugar! Now back to the topic!!!

[JackieB]

Yes, Jackie, they are generally opposed to that kind of fertility procedure that makes 'extra' embryos.

I didn't know that.

[missdixie]

neither did i

[Cat]

People down south don't take themselves so seriously. If you say, mam, darling, sweetie, honey, angel, sugar, baby, etc. It's perfectly acceptable and no one takes it as anything other than what it is, a form of addressing other people with respect and affection. Girls call guys by many of the same names. I think that HR person would have a daily migraine if they moved her to Georgia and tried that stuff, honey.:)

You notice I said when she first started. She has since been shown the errors of her ways I believe - or at least just gave up. ;)

[Sundays Man]

From fertilized embryos that aren't ever transplanted because the couple is able to become pregnant without needing all of the embryos they created. Are pro life citizens generally opposed to a couple storing more embryos than they know they can use?

No, pro life people, for the most part, believe it isn't nice to fool with mother nature.

That will make a good thread for later maybe. I want to watch McCain win right now.:p

[JackieB]

Dang. Falling farther behind on our animal shelter issue. 1573 for, 1684 against. Seven of 18 precincts reporting. More happy thoughts, please.

[missdixie]

you better take some happy pills and go off to lala land then SM!

[missdixie]

Aw, Sorry JackieB :(

[Cat]

ahhemmmm...did you just call cat honey? :p (just kidding)

lol!

[lovesfortune]

Happy thoughts coming your way JackieB!:clap: < that's me sending them!

[Cat]

JackieB - Sending happy thoughts your way!

[Sundays Man]

You notice I said when she first started. She has since been shown the errors of her ways I believe - or at least just gave up. ;)
I thought maybe she was going to suffer from "culture shock". She will probably go home and call people sugar and baby. LOL.

[vicklynn]

Happy thoughts coming your way JackieB!:clap: < that's me sending them!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Were cheering you on JackieB

[Sundays Man]

you better take some happy pills and go off to lala land then SM!

Sometimes I think I'm living in la la land and need a pill to get back to reality.

[missdixie]

Okay, let's get real here. Obama's got 207 electoral votes. California is 55, Washington is 11. They are a given. REGARDLESS of any other states, including Florida, he's got 270.

[cloedoll]

WHOA! What a chatty bunch we have, 22 pages?! Hot dangg, lol.

[missdixie]

LOL sorry it's probably half me!

[Sundays Man]

WHOA! What a chatty bunch we have, 22 pages?! Hot dangg, lol.
Yeah, I know. Every time I make a post it goes 2 pages beyond where I was. I can't keep up!!!!!!

[vicklynn]

Okay, let's get real here. Obama's got 207 electoral votes. California is 55, Washington is 11. They are a given. REGARDLESS of any other states, including Florida, he's got 270.
:poo:it aint over yet...where's the fat lady

[FoxFireEMT]

I missed this because I was running calls.... people who don't even need the darn ambulance.

Anyway... guys I'm worried.... VERY worried. I have never felt this stressed or even anxiety over the issue of the president. I just the hope that the change that people wanted is the change that they get and not something totally different.

[JackieB]

Aw, Sorry JackieB :(

We're not out of it by any means. Just keep sending happy thoughts our way, please.

[missdixie]

http://www.bradfitzpatrick.com/weblog/wp-content/files/fatladysinging.jpg

[vicklynn]

I missed this because I was running calls.... people who don't even need the darn ambulance.

Anyway... guys I'm worried.... VERY worried. I have never felt this stressed or even anxiety over the issue of the president. I just the hope that the change that people wanted is the change that they get and not something totally different.
I am so not touching that one. Ill get yelled at. FFE I need a hug((HUGS))

[JackieB]

Okay, let's get real here. Obama's got 207 electoral votes. California is 55, Washington is 11. They are a given. REGARDLESS of any other states, including Florida, he's got 270.

If I have to tell you to pipe down one more time....:p:p:p:p:p

[lovesfortune]

Lol. I was confused for a minute. Mine only shows 11 pages, but then I realized I customized my page to show 20 posts per page.

Must go to bed.... but I can't!!

[Sundays Man]

I missed this because I was running calls.... people who don't even need the darn ambulance.

Anyway... guys I'm worried.... VERY worried. I have never felt this stressed or even anxiety over the issue of the president. I just the hope that the change that people wanted is the change that they get and not something totally different.

Well said and my concerns exactly. It's not that I didn't agree with some of the stuff being said, it's just that the track record didn't match the talk. But come to think of it, isn't that the way it is with most all politicians.

[Cat]

Your right - I'm barely keeping up with this thread. I'm trying to follow this thread and work on my book and watch the election. Multitasking - a wonderful thing. :D



As long as it doesn't drive me crazy first. I'm behing by a little over 1000 words in my book right now for NaNoWriMo. BLAHHH!

[missdixie]

Uh oh, I better zip it, JackieB does not want any arbor mist at my Obama party, I am going to get throttled!

[FoxFireEMT]

Why are they making it a racial issue? It seems to me all I am hearing is black voters, white voters.... blah blah blah.... to me thats BS. What about the issues at hand??

[JackieB]

Uh oh, I better zip it, JackieB does not want any arbor mist at my Obama party, I am going to get throttled!

Just be very optimistic for another half hour or so and they'll call it.

[vicklynn]

Well said and my concerns exactly. It's not that I didn't agree with some of the stuff being said, it's just that the track record didn't match the talk. But come to think of it, isn't that the way it is with most all politicians.
Yup, it is. Thats all I have to say about his fluff. You know a few of my feelings, there are many many many more concerns.

[Horserider]

Anyway... guys I'm worried.... VERY worried. I have never felt this stressed or even anxiety over the issue of the president. I just the hope that the change that people wanted is the change that they get and not something totally different.

I agree. I feel the same. Only I wasn't aware enough that I should care after Clinton was president.

I guess I'll be moving to Australia. Mom's home I gotta get off soon. :( I guess whatever happens, happens.

[FoxFireEMT]

Well said and my concerns exactly. It's not that I didn't agree with some of the stuff being said, it's just that the track record didn't match the talk. But come to think of it, isn't that the way it is with most all politicians.

Yes it is... it always seems to come down (IMO) which one is the lesser of two evils. But this time around.... (although I still felt that way) I was more worried about one then the other... I usually don't dare talk politics because I would quickly admit I'm so "dumb" on the politic issues!

[missdixie]

Seriously though guys, I really hope ( and I think he will ) if Obama wins he will be able to work in a bipartisan way to fix things for us, no hard feelings against the republicans. I know how you must feel. I have been sick over this election all day, hopefully Obama can earn your trust and you won't have to feel sick for the next 4 years.:( And in the meantime, if he does win, you can just rub any little mistake in our faces ( and I'm sure you will ;) )

[vicklynn]

Yes it is... it always seems to come down (IMO) which one is the lesser of two evils. But this time around.... (although I still felt that way) I was more worried about one then the other... I usually don't dare talk politics because I would quickly admit I'm so "dumb" on the politic issues!
Me too FFE, on politics. Sucks that the better of the two evils may loose. That is scary.

[Horserider]

hopefully Obama can earn your trust and you won't have to feel sick for the next 4 years

Yeah that's likely to happen. I don't trust politicians in general anyway. Just thinking about him leading our country makes me what to move to Australia. But that's just me.

[twofingers]

there were thirteen candidates for president and you chose evil, lesser or greater, evil is still evil. :innocent:

[vicklynn]

Seriously though guys, I really hope ( and I think he will ) if Obama wins he will be able to work in a bipartisan way to fix things for us, no hard feelings against the republicans. I know how you must feel. I have been sick over this election all day, hopefully Obama can earn your trust and you won't have to feel sick for the next 4 years.:( And in the meantime, if he does win, you can just rub any little mistake in our faces ( and I'm sure you will ;) )
Look, if Obama wins, and the feelings we are worried about happen, we wont need to rub them in your face, you'll be kicking your own ass.

[Sundays Man]

And from the Democrats in Washington just now, "and for those of you who voted for us, we're going to do our best........" I guess that's change. That sounds like we're going to get rid of the bi-partisanship and division. That's!!! reaching across the isle alright.

[JackieB]

And in the meantime, if he does win, you can just rub any little mistake in our faces ( and I'm sure you will ;) )

They wouldn't do that. Especially not Tiz or RocknK. :):):)

OK, OK. I guess you can go wild if you wish, missdixie. Nobody is talking on television as if this is still any kind of a presidential race anymore. I've just always thought it bad luck to count on anything that hasn't happened yet.

But you go ahead and jump for joy. Me, I'm still going to wait until they call it, which should only be about 20 minutes from now.

[missdixie]

Whyyyyyy are Florida and Virginia taking soooooo long to tally? Chads again? :crazy:

[FoxFireEMT]

Although I have always been a strong (thought) of the republican I have always been an open minded person and I was willing to give Hilliary a try. I thought maybe she could do some change. Both good & bad. However he just worries me... Big time. Do I think that McCain could make America into the changes we need... NOPE it's going to take a lot to fix the economy either way... I just fear Obama's "true" intentions. Soooo many thoughts & ethics flow through my mind...

Missdixie: I hope he proves me wrong. I really do. Really.... I mean that...

[vicklynn]

And from the Democrats in Washington just now, "and for those of you who voted for us, we're going to do our best........" I guess that's change. That sounds like we're going to get rid of the bi-partisanship and division. That's!!! reaching across the isle alright.
Gesh, I saw that coming, and I know you did too.

[Horserider]

But you go ahead and jump for joy. Me, I'm still going to wait until they call it, which should only be about 20 minutes from now.

I hope they hurry. I'm tired, but I can't sleep until I know. :(

[missdixie]

Aw I really don't think it will go that way. I hope not.

[Sundays Man]

Whyyyyyy are Florida and Virginia taking soooooo long to tally? Chads again? :crazy:

They have soooo many yankees down here.....God bless 'em. LOL

[HaveFaith]

there were thirteen candidates for president and you chose evil, lesser or greater, evil is still evil. :innocent:

AMEN. I'm scared and ready for him to prove me wrong. I'd love to be wrong this time!

[FoxFireEMT]

there were thirteen candidates for president and you chose evil, lesser or greater, evil is still evil. :innocent:


As the citizens of my fine town that I am working in tonight says..... "TRU DAT"!! :p

[JackieB]

Gesh, I saw that coming, and I know you did too.

Don't assume that those comments represented the Democratic party in general. And also, it could have been more of a "If you crossed party lines to vote for us, we promise to..."

[missdixie]

I know it must be hard for east coasters to stay up, especially because the time just changed!

[Arrow]

Oh my...Ohio, Florida, Virginia...I would never have predicted that. There are already lawsuits over Virginia, though, so we'll see.