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Tatesgram
11-07-2008, 11:11 AM
MOSCOW-- Italy's famously impolitic Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi described U.S. President-elect Barack Obama on Thursday as "young, handsome and even tanned.
Berlusconi appeared to be joking about America's first black president at a news conference following talks with Russia's president.
The Italian leader, who has a history of controversial remarks, was asked by a reporter about the prospect for U.S.-Russian relations, which have plummeted to Cold War-levels in recent months.
Berlusconi responded by saying that the relative youth of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, 43, and Obama, 47, should make it easier for Moscow and Washington to work together.
Then he said, smiling: "I told the president that (Obama) has everything needed in order to reach deals with him: he's young, handsome and even tanned."
Medvedev did not visibly react to the comment.
Italian news agencies said Berlusconi later defended the remark to reporters as he returned to his hotel in Moscow, calling the statement "a great compliment"
"Why are they taking it as something negative? ... If they have the vice of not having a sense of humor, worse for them," the ANSA news agency quoted him as saying.
Berlusconi is infamous for eyebrow-raising comments.
He once compared a German lawmaker to a Nazi camp guard, asserted after the Sept. 11 terror attacks that Western civilization was superior to Islam and more recently, that the new Spanish government had too many women.
Italy's only black lawmaker, Jean-Leonard Touadi, called the comment embarrassing.
"In the United States, a joke like that wouldn't just be politically incorrect, but a great offense to this amazing example of integration, which it seems the Italian premier should take as an example," Touadi said.

This is from Fox News today.

My question, should Obama be insulted by this remark?

rocknK
11-07-2008, 11:40 AM
Them eyetalians is funny folks!:p

WashingtonBay
11-07-2008, 11:59 AM
Oooh - they have their own Biden. Keeps things interesting! :D

rocknK
11-07-2008, 12:06 PM
WB, we also need a smilie with its foot in its mouth!:p

Tiz
11-07-2008, 12:22 PM
Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore?

Tatesgram
11-07-2008, 01:41 PM
Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore?

That's what I was thinking!!! I don't think he was trying to insult Obama.

twofingers
11-07-2008, 01:45 PM
Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore?

on election night I was next door at a party most of the folks there work at the large university in town. i told a joke about Mccain and Obama in a barber shop the punch line made fun of Mccain, they laugh raucously. about twenty minutes later I was asked to tell the joke again, because some new people had arrived. I told the joke but flipped the punch line so it made fun of Obama. I was asked to leave! :nono:

missdixie
11-07-2008, 02:09 PM
MOSCOW-- Italy's famously impolitic Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi described U.S. President-elect Barack Obama on Thursday as "young, handsome and even tanned.
Berlusconi appeared to be joking about America's first black president at a news conference following talks with Russia's president.
The Italian leader, who has a history of controversial remarks, was asked by a reporter about the prospect for U.S.-Russian relations, which have plummeted to Cold War-levels in recent months.
Berlusconi responded by saying that the relative youth of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, 43, and Obama, 47, should make it easier for Moscow and Washington to work together.
Then he said, smiling: "I told the president that (Obama) has everything needed in order to reach deals with him: he's young, handsome and even tanned."
Medvedev did not visibly react to the comment.
Italian news agencies said Berlusconi later defended the remark to reporters as he returned to his hotel in Moscow, calling the statement "a great compliment"
"Why are they taking it as something negative? ... If they have the vice of not having a sense of humor, worse for them," the ANSA news agency quoted him as saying.
Berlusconi is infamous for eyebrow-raising comments.
He once compared a German lawmaker to a Nazi camp guard, asserted after the Sept. 11 terror attacks that Western civilization was superior to Islam and more recently, that the new Spanish government had too many women.
Italy's only black lawmaker, Jean-Leonard Touadi, called the comment embarrassing.
"In the United States, a joke like that wouldn't just be politically incorrect, but a great offense to this amazing example of integration, which it seems the Italian premier should take as an example," Touadi said.

This is from Fox News today.

My question, should Obama be insulted by this remark?
I don't think he should be insulted, and I don't think he will be.

gaited07
11-08-2008, 10:43 AM
I'm sorry, I've read this over and over and can not see what you are referring to.
I don't feel we need to be sooooo sensitive about the "tanned" remark. Sometimes we walk on too many eggshells and look for things to react to.
Just to add, most italians are dark complected, with olive tones and dating back to the moors invasion of Italy 1400? century.

Ragnar Danneskjold
11-08-2008, 10:52 AM
Oooh - they have their own Biden. Keeps things interesting! :D

Yah... Berlusconi is actually a great guy. He's prone to much worse than this. Really shoots off his mouth sometimes. Frankly I think it's refreshing when leaders just say plainly what they think instead of always couching their words in protective blankets of PC doubletalk, and it's our fault they have to do that, not theirs.

Tatesgram
11-10-2008, 08:31 AM
I'm sorry, I've read this over and over and can not see what you are referring to.
I don't feel we need to be sooooo sensitive about the "tanned" remark. Sometimes we walk on too many eggshells and look for things to react to.
Just to add, most italians are dark complected, with olive tones and dating back to the moors invasion of Italy 1400? century.

Sorry, just a couple of things in the article caught my attention:

Italy's only black lawmaker, Jean-Leonard Touadi, called the comment embarrassing.
"In the United States, a joke like that wouldn't just be politically incorrect, but a great offense to this amazing example of integration, which it seems the Italian premier should take as an example," Touadi said.

I believe this person was being overly sensitive. But you never know, in our country, how innocent remarks will set off a firestorm.

and

"Why are they taking it as something negative? ... If they have the vice of not having a sense of humor, worse for them," the ANSA news agency quoted him as saying

I totally agree with him on this. I think the PC police are a little to exuberant and are just looking for things to cause controversy.