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Maggiepie121493
08-12-2010, 04:41 PM
So I am buying a week and a half old colt. His mother is a dapple gray, but with a touch of mahogany almost in her rump. Her father is a smoky dun (that's the one with the dorsal stripe, right?) The baby is a reddish bay with some long black baby fuzzies on his rump. No dorsal stripe. What color could he be? He has a sister from another gray mare and she's the same color except with a dorsal stripe. It doesn't seem right to get a bay out of that.
Hard to know without pictures. He may even be gray. Mom probably has that look because her graying process hasn't finished yet. My gray horse started as a very vivid chestnut tobiano.
Remali
08-12-2010, 05:28 PM
Try this equine color calculator.....
http://www.animalgenetics.us/ccalculator1.asp
If he goes grey it will start around his eyes, and on his face. Any pics yet?
Looks like your chances of grey are best, and then bay or dun. Does the dam have black points?
Your colt sounds as if he may be a bay. At least for now..... signs of greying out will show up as he gets older and sheds his foal coat.
FredRock
08-12-2010, 05:38 PM
Honestly it depends on what the mom's color is, and whether she has two or one copy of the grey gene. If she only has one copy (heterozygous) then there's a 50% chance that he won't be grey. You'll see it around his eyes first if he will go grey.
The Dun factor is probably Heterozygous in the stallion, too. So no dun for him. He's probably going to be bay. His coat might go darker since he's only a week or so old and it's his foal coat.
TheRedHayflinger
08-13-2010, 07:02 AM
another way to figure out if you think he may go grey--grey foals are ALMOST always born an "adult" color...like..a bay going grey will be born with it's dark points, most bay foals that stay bay usually don't have full black legs up to knees and hocks (most I said..not all..I've seen the exception a few times). Pictures always help :)
twofingers
08-13-2010, 09:56 PM
this horse was born chestnut.
twofingers
08-13-2010, 10:12 PM
sorry I for got to add he is 4 now. he went from chest nut to sorrel to red roan with a few spots to grey and now he is as you see him.
TheRedHayflinger
08-14-2010, 04:07 AM
that is how varnish seems to work....overtakes it all..I'm betting he isn't actually grey, Lp does some funky stuff with base colors.
this filly is a grullo (black dun), she has been tested as such as well-- http://www.designsporthorse.com/Ava%20Current%20Photos%20072207.htm
AppyLady
08-14-2010, 03:15 PM
I agree, I don't think twofingers horse is grey at all. An Appaloosa with grey will lose the varnish marks, and that horse still has them.
Well here is our gray as a baby:
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/35327/2326779730058074505S425x425Q85.jpg
I believe he is 2 here:
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/5567/2810695500058074505S425x425Q85.jpg
This summer as a 5 year old:
http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/15337/2647255810058074505S500x500Q85.jpg
TheBadLands
08-15-2010, 11:06 AM
another way to figure out if you think he may go grey--grey foals are ALMOST always born an "adult" color...like..a bay going grey will be born with it's dark points, most bay foals that stay bay usually don't have full black legs up to knees and hocks (most I said..not all..I've seen the exception a few times). Pictures always help :)
This.
What color are your babies legs now?
This is Skippy (a dun with black points) at a week old
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs133.snc4/37000_139951736017299_139941002685039_402378_62171 08_n.jpg
Here he is at a 2 months old:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs181.snc4/37396_139952259350580_139941002685039_402383_12180 93_n.jpg
And here he is at 5 months old:
(his first time out.. didn't get too many pics of him that day I was on Dena)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs290.snc4/40844_149959491683190_139941002685039_465358_14536 2_n.jpg
We've always had the black point duns born with light legs.
Maggiepie121493
08-22-2010, 06:45 PM
Sorry to respond so late. I couldn't upload any pictures but his coat color is exactly like this. And his rump is pretty black too. and around his shoulders.
http://www.capenetwork.com/howrse/create-a-horse/proceed/colt/horse/final/bay.jpg
Except his legs are a blacker and yes, mom does have black points. Daddy has black points with a dorsal stripe.
TheRedHayflinger
08-23-2010, 08:00 AM
If his legs are blacker...he'll probably be going grey. If you have problems uploading pics...try someplace like photobucket.
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