Writing question!

[PoniesRock101]

I'm on and off debating about this as I write my paper...

But when you're listing a title in an essay of a subchapter do you

Italisize it
The passage in the subchapter called Detecting Lies Shows McDonald’s reaction to unions.

Underline it
The passage in the subchapter called Detecting Lies Shows McDonald’s reaction to unions.

Put it in qoutations
The passage in the subchapter called "Detecting Lies" Shows McDonald’s reaction to unions.

I can't decide! I'm pretty sure it's italisize... but I could be wrong. I haven't really had a chance to look it up for myself.I know it can change pretty regularly as writing rules change from year to year.

Help is greatly apreciated :)

[JackieB]

Now why do you waste time with these people when you can go straight to the expert instead? Well, not the expert exactly, but the expert's husband. :p

I'll be back shortly with an answer.

[WashingtonBay]

I think italicizing is the most modern correct format. Underlining and quotes were the norm on typewriters that did not have the option of italicizing. You know... like the kind I had when I was in school ;)

[FredRock]

Actually I believe the quotations would be the correct way.

It's a short passage, as opposed to the full work. It's the full work that would be either italicized or underlined, although it is now preferred to italicize titles of full works. Underlining is usually reserved for writing on paper or where specified.

[JackieB]

OK, got an answer. Subchapter isn't really the word to use for what you are describing. It may be accurate, but if so, it's so rarely used that it took us a little while to figure out exactly what we were after. None of the reference books refer to subchapters, and in common use, it virtually always refers to bankruptcy proceedings. What you are talking about is a section or heading within a chapter.

Anyway, you don't italicize. That's for the main work only (e.g. A Tale of Two Cities). I also woudn't underline, although that might be OK.

Use either quotation marks - "Detecting Lies" or initial capitalization - Detecting Lies

In the Detecting Lies section...

The passage in the "Detecting Lies" section...

Most importantly, be consistent in your use.

[WashingtonBay]

Yeah - OK - what do I know?... nuttin' :o

[natisha]

I think italicizing is the most modern correct format. Underlining and quotes were the norm on typewriters that did not have the option of italicizing. You know... like the kind I had when I was in school ;)They had type writers back then?

[FredRock]

Yeah - OK - what do I know?... nuttin' :o

Don't worry WB, I still mess up on this stuff and I almost majored in it! lol It seems like every time I go to write a paper there's some new grammar rule or citation style to work with.

[WashingtonBay]

They had type writers back then?

:trout:


In college they were even electric...

[natisha]

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[natisha]

In college they were even electric...They had electricity back then?

[PoniesRock101]

Now why do you waste time with these people when you can go straight to the expert instead? Well, not the expert exactly, but the expert's husband. :p

I'll be back shortly with an answer.
:p I felt like a may be being a both ;)

I think italicizing is the most modern correct format. Underlining and quotes were the norm on typewriters that did not have the option of italicizing. You know... like the kind I had when I was in school ;)
I thought that too.... Guess Iwas wrong! :innocent:

Actually I believe the quotations would be the correct way.

It's a short passage, as opposed to the full work. It's the full work that would be either italicized or underlined, although it is now preferred to italicize titles of full works. Underlining is usually reserved for writing on paper or where specified.
I was originally taught underlining, then qouting, then italisizing! :doh:

OK, got an answer. Subchapter isn't really the word to use for what you are describing. It may be accurate, but if so, it's so rarely used that it took us a little while to figure out exactly what we were after. None of the reference books refer to subchapters, and in common use, it virtually always refers to bankruptcy proceedings. What you are talking about is a section or heading within a chapter.

Anyway, you don't italicize. That's for the main work only (e.g. A Tale of Two Cities). I also woudn't underline, although that might be OK.

Use either quotation marks - "Detecting Lies" or initial capitalization - Detecting Lies

In the Detecting Lies section...

The passage in the "Detecting Lies" section...

Most importantly, be consistent in your use.

Thank you so much JackieB! I didn't think subchapter was the correct word, but I couldn't think of another word to desribe it... and Iwas kinda rushing (it's been a long day, and I didn't get much sleep last night)

But THANK YOU! Consistancy is always a good idea ;)

They had type writers back then?
:hysterical:
Don't worry WB, I still mess up on this stuff and I almost majored in it! lol It seems like every time I go to write a paper there's some new grammar rule or citation style to work with.
I hate all the *new* grammar rules I randomly get shoved in my face.. between teacher to teacher..
:trout:


In college they were even electric...
:hysterical: :trout: :innocent:
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:huh: :trout: :innocent:

Ponies is having too much fun with basswhacks.....

[PoniesRock101]

QOUTATIONS- Got it.. note to self! ( sorry guys, I think ponies is loosing her mind....)

[natisha]

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[PoniesRock101]

OK, I have another question! Sorry to bug again guys! I'm pretty sure about this one though....I just want to double check.

In in text citations, if everything is from the same source, after the initail Author's last name and page number, for future citations you can just put page numbers right? That's what I recall from previous papers...

What I mean is Lets say your first citation was this

" ____________________________________"(Schlosser 91).
If you had a consecutive citation from him again wouldn't you be able just have the page number like this
"___________________________________________" (110).

Sorry for all the questions! It's really frustrating with the fact I haven't met my teacher yet, so I can't really ask for help on any of this! :(

[JackieB]

According to my MLA reference, you may not handle the references that way you are proposing, Ponies. If you omit the author's name in the citation, it must appear in the sentence.

" ____________________________________"(Schlosser 91).

Schlosser further notes that Easy Buster Brown (aka Buster) was "the most remarkable horse that ever lived"(119).

[Fjords <3]

We just did paranthetical (can't spell :doh:) references at school during like the end of fourth quarter. I think if you do it the way you are, that's correct, but that was like 3 months ago :P

So, like:

McDonalds grew from a small restaurant into a huge corporation in only 20 years (Schlosser, 91). Its founder saw the opportunity to grow immensly, and he jumped at the opportunity (82).

I don't know if I'm restating what Jackie said, but that's just how I understand it. I love English, but there are so many rules to remember!

[FredRock]

From what I remember doing in AP English, they like to see it done that way. You might want to check to see if the directions tell you either way, though.

AP papers will accept citations that simply have pages/lines after mentioning the author and book/passage title in the essay beforehand. If any other sources are used, you need to use the ciation style JackieB mentioned.

[Horserider]

I know you've already got the answer to the first question, but I wanted to say the trick my English teacher taught us when we were talking about it. :)

Imagine you had a printout of whatever you were mentioning and drop it. If it floats slowly to the ground (like a short story or a short essay would do) then you use quotation marks because they look like wings. If you drop it and it falls straight to the ground (like a book would) then you underline (or italicize). You only underline when you're handwriting.

OK, I have another question! Sorry to bug again guys! I'm pretty sure about this one though....I just want to double check.

In in text citations, if everything is from the same source, after the initail Author's last name and page number, for future citations you can just put page numbers right? That's what I recall from previous papers...

What I mean is Lets say your first citation was this

" ____________________________________"(Schlosser 91).
If you had a consecutive citation from him again wouldn't you be able just have the page number like this
"___________________________________________" (110).

No, I don't think you can do that. The only reason we ever left out the author name was when we were doing a full report on one book and only taking quotations out of that book.

[PoniesRock101]

Thanks again guys! I can't even begin to explain how grateful I am for all the help

According to my MLA reference, you may not handle the references that way you are proposing, Ponies. If you omit the author's name in the citation, it must appear in the sentence.

" ____________________________________"(Schlosser 91).

Schlosser further notes that Easy Buster Brown (aka Buster) was "the most remarkable horse that ever lived"(119).
That's exacly what I meant, but I forgot to put Schlosser at the begining of the second one. Thanks again

And Buster brown is definatley a remarkable horse, even greater than Boceifus (spelling??/ Alexander the Great's horse!)
From what I remember doing in AP English, they like to see it done that way. You might want to check to see if the directions tell you either way, though.

AP papers will accept citations that simply have pages/lines after mentioning the author and book/passage title in the essay beforehand. If any other sources are used, you need to use the ciation style JackieB mentioned.
The directions aren't very specific... :( The paper basically only has citations from the book it is on.. So since there is only one source, I'm pretty sure either way would work, but I'll include Schlosser's name in the ones that I have just the number, just to be safe.
Thanks for the info :)
I know you've already got the answer to the first question, but I wanted to say the trick my English teacher taught us when we were talking about it. :)

Imagine you had a printout of whatever you were mentioning and drop it. If it floats slowly to the ground (like a short story or a short essay would do) then you use quotation marks because they look like wings. If you drop it and it falls straight to the ground (like a book would) then you underline (or italicize). You only underline when you're handwriting.



No, I don't think you can do that. The only reason we ever left out the author name was when we were doing a full report on one book and only taking quotations out of that book.
That is a really good trick! :)) I was never really taught that, just kinda expected to know it (wihtout being told) But that's a perfect way to remember! Thank you! :D

The paper is only on one book, but as i said above, i'm going to use JackieB's method to be safe.