Animated hoof video to show Founder & Laminitis

[IrisGreen]

I was researching Founder. Muffin is lame on his fronts from the neighbors giving him too many peaches and all the sugar. I was worried about him foundering but I think he's going to be fine. Steve helped ease my mind in private messages so I'm not so freaked out. Thanks again for the help Steve :) I'm keeping an eye on him but I think it's a temporary laminitis situation, not founder.

So, while I was freaking out (in my head) I was researching founder and what exactly happens. I already had the idea of what happens from reading about it years ago and seeing pictures but this video I came across really helps explain and show the whole process. I don't have an opinion on nor have I used the "hoof plate" they are recommending. I just like the video for learning purposes.

I figured I should share the video.

http://www.nolanhoofhealth.com/video_player.php?v=MOA

[JackieB]

So nice of Steve to help set your mind at ease. That would be so comforting coming from one of the most experienced farriers in the country.

Great to hear from you, by the way!

[Buckpoco]

Excellent video...has anyone ever used the plate?

[IrisGreen]

So nice of Steve to help set your mind at ease. That would be so comforting coming from one of the most experienced farriers in the country.

Great to hear from you, by the way!

Thanks :) Jackie B

Yes, He helped me with a few things regarding Muffins feet. It was comforting to get his advice and help set my mind at ease. I'm thankful that he is on the forum and willing to share his knowledge. He doesn't know how much his words and expertise mean to someone like me that tends to jump to the worst case scenario before I calm down. lol

I put Muffin in the arena this morning where the ground is much softer then his stall and he's not limping. He seems much better today but still ouchy on hard ground so I will keep him in the arena until his feet feel better.

I'm going to put down a layer of sand in his stall because it's hard packed clay dirt over a layer of gravel (previous owners put down gravel). So the rocks come up and sit on top of the hard packed ground if I drag it. So, I can't drag to make it softer so the only option I can think of it putting a good layer of sand down to make it nice and soft. That will help with drainage during winter also.

[natisha]

Sorry to hear about Muffin.
I watched the video. I have my doubts as it seems too easy. Hopefully the farriers will come on & give their opinion.

[AUEquine]

Sorry to hear about Muffin.
I watched the video. I have my doubts as it seems too easy. Hopefully the farriers will come on & give their opinion.

I agree. I'm very curious about this plate. The sales pitch makes it sound way to easy. I'll have to ask some of the surgeons about their thoughts on it. In sever cases like that we usually drill out the hoof wall below the coronary band to relieve the pressure and restore blood flow.

However, I do like the beginning part of the video (the reason for it's posting). It's a very simple yet good explination of founder. I'll have to book mark this to show students in the future. Thanks for posting it.

We've been dealing with alot of founder cases this year. Recently we used the pelleted bedding (kind you wet down) for one horse to be softer. It seemed to be better than sand for keeping the stall clean (especially with urine), and doesn't pose the same risks as sand when it comes to colic and respiratory issues. Just a thought for you to possibly try in his stall.
Sorry to hear about Muffin. It's crazy what some neighbors will do. Had a case a few years ago that came in for choke. The owners said the horse is on pasture only with hay, no grain. What we were refluxing out was pure grain (oats, corn, etc were all still intact). Come to figure out the neighbors thought the horse looked skinny and were feeding it. Horse was in top shape for field trials, not skinny at all. Also have had a few cases of gastric impaction from neighbors dumping grass clipping over fences for horses. Scary what can happen to these animals with uneducated people with good intentions.

[FredRock]

Scary what can happen to these animals with uneducated people with good intentions.

This is why I'm never letting my horses go up to roads or neighbors. If it means spending more for electric tape then so be it, but people seem to think giving animals treats is perfectly fine.

One day when I was leaving the barn I saw a group of woman with strollers stop and offer some kind of fruit or something to my horses. I stopped my car on the road and asked them not to feed the horses, as they're nippy already. One of them flipped a fit and told me not to have the horses by the road if I didn't want anyone messing with hem. I asked her if she would think nothing of me offering random food to her child in a park, and she went on her way. Here's hoping they didn't come back and feed them anyways. :rolleyes:

I'm very sorry to hear about Muffn. I hope he makes a full recovery! Maybe you should put up signs that ask to not feed the horses.

The video is very interesting. I'm kind-of confused now though. Where does inflammation come into play? When the bloodflow stops? My vet explained it to me as the laminae becomes inflamed and then the coffin bone sinks. Is this pretty true or did I misunderstand something? I didn't know anything about a lack of bloodflow though. Very interesting.

[IrisGreen]

Thank you for your replys and good wishes for Muffins recovery. He's doing better today so I think he's going to be fine. Still ouchy but nothing like he was and he's not as careful with how he sets his feet down. So he's feeling better and getting back to his clobber hopper self. lol

AUEuine,
Muffins stall is about 30 x 40 so it's way too big to put bedding down to cover the whole thing. A friend of mind has a dump trailer (the awesome kind that has a lift on it!:)). We are going on Tuesday to get 4 tons of stand and dump it in Muffins stall. That should put a layer over the hard ground. Then I can start dragging it again and that will help keep it soft and air it out. I'm just going to have to put Muffin on a sand clear treatment every month. Though he doesn't eat off the ground but it's good preventative measures just in case.

The Nolan plate has a website with video testimonials. They show case studies. I watched a few of the videos and it seemed to work very well. If you want more information on it check out there site:

Click on "Testimonials" on the left hand side. It will take you to the video page.
http://www.nolanhoofhealth.com/Science/index.php

I also wanted to clear up the whole neighbor thing, at least in this situation. My neighbors are very good with the horses. They don't know anything about horses but they do really like Matty and Muffin. I have told them about not feeding anything to the horses that I don't aprove first and never to dump grass clippings in there stalls. Well the problem was that I did say it was ok for the horses to have a peach or two a day but the wife gave the horses some in the morning and didn't tell the husband. The husband came out and gave more in the evening and the next day Muffin had a belly ache and a few days latter ended up lame.

I told them not to give him anymore and that he had a belly ache from too many. That's when they looked at each other and realized they had both fed him several all in the same day not knowing the other had already gave him some. They were so sorry and felt really bad. They kept asking me if he was going to be ok and that they weren't going to give him any more peaches because they made his belly hurt. They felt so bad about the belly ache.

So, it wasn't entirely there fault. I did say it was ok to give him a few but they accidentally over fed him. So, now he's not going to get anymore peaches. He was fine with them giving him a few apples when there tree was in season but the peaches are just to rich for him, especially when he gets them twice a day!

We all learned are lesson and thankfully Muffin is going to be ok and this won't happen again. He sure enjoyed those peaches while he could though! lol

Edit: Ohh and the boys still beg (stair) for fruit when the neighbors are back there. lol Muffin even rattles the fence by grabbing the mesh with his mouth and pulling it away so it snaps back to get her attention, then looks up to see if she noticed. She tells him "No, I can't give you any. Sorry". So, I'm going to get a galvanized trash can and fill it with alfalfa cubes. They can give the boys some of those and I won't have to worry about it. That's what they eat anyways so there used to cubes and the neighbors can get the joy of giving them treats with out having to worry about giving them a belly ache. The wife just loves Muffin because he's so social and curious about everything she does. She talks to him while she's back there watering the garden. lol Matty isn't very social unless you have food so most of the time he ignores people.

[gaited07]

I've seen this before (not this particular video but articles) and have my doubts.
I really wish that it does work. Founder is a devastating disease that takes its toll out of both the horse and the owner.

I'm glad to hear that Muffin is not foundered and doing better. It's a horrible scare and glad that Steve was there to help you out.

Speaking of Steve and all the other Farriers on board, I would love to hear their opinions on this band.