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I expect my eyes to start bleeding when I read this stuff. 2 million dollars, poof!
School cafeterias to try psychology in lunch line
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By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer Marilynn Marchione, Ap Medical Writer – Tue Oct 12, 12:31 pm ET
Federal officials are turning to psychology in a new approach to get kids to choose healthier foods in the school lunch line.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture is giving $2 million to food behavior scientists to use marketing tricks to encourage kids to pick fruits and veggies over cookies and french fries.
Some of the ideas include hiding chocolate milk behind plain milk, putting the salad bar near checkout, placing fruit in pretty baskets and accepting only cash as payment for desserts.
Studies by Cornell University researchers have found these tactics work, and Cornell will start a new child nutrition center to test more of these methods.
WashingtonBay
10-12-2010, 02:41 PM
Ohfercryinoutloud.
If you don't want them to pick chocolate milk, don't serve chocolate milk.
Solved... where's my cut of the 2 million? :)
GrungeEquestrian
10-12-2010, 02:49 PM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME! :banghead:
What's wrong with chocolate milk?
Honestly, I'd be 10x happier if a kid chose milk OR chocolate milk over pop or Gatorate. Milk should be the least of our concerns.
WashingtonBay
10-12-2010, 02:53 PM
What's wrong with chocolate milk?
Honestly, I'd be 10x happier if a kid chose milk OR chocolate milk over pop or Gatorate. Milk should be the least of our concerns.
Good point. :)
jeezitsjacki
10-12-2010, 02:54 PM
haha being a psychology major that is so funny! funny ridiculous of course. It would be an interesting study to see the results in, however I dont think it will work. They can get sweets at home too, school isnt the only place its happening. Plus cafeteria food is not the healiest thing either...maybe they should work on improving that first
Buckpoco
10-12-2010, 04:30 PM
I have to say that when I taught third grade, many of my kids chose veggies and fruit when we had a party and they had choices...I just don't see why the schools should sell junk foods anyway!
I have to say that when I taught third grade, many of my kids chose veggies and fruit when we had a party and they had choices...I just don't see why the schools should sell junk foods anyway!The local grocery store donated a few hundred pounds of oranges to my school. Half of my placement kindergarten class turned their nose up at them. Then my teacher made a special pumpkin loaf for the kids to try and a lot of them wouldn't even try it because it didn't have chocolate in it. :rolleyes:
My mom is a teacher. For the first week or two of class, she brings in a big bag of apples or pears and says "I brought too many pears! Who wants to share with me?" Then she uses an apple cutter and makes the kids who eat them (or other healthy food) feel really special. It's been working-- More and more kids have started to bring better food in. I guess that's psychology too.
HoustonFarrier
10-12-2010, 04:42 PM
For 12 years, my (foster)mother managed to send me off to school EVERY DAY with a lunch in a brown paper bag(as well as my brother and 2 sisters).......wonder why they can't do it anymore????:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Steve
gaited07
10-12-2010, 05:05 PM
All I can say is that some one is a freaking moron!!!
If you want to feed the kids more healthy products, SUPPLY THEM and do AWAY WITH THE FRIED CRAP! And as for Chocolate milk verse reg. milk, I agree with who ever said its a lot better than a soda:)
natisha
10-12-2010, 05:21 PM
I'll arrange a food display for only $1M
Pi and Tofu
10-12-2010, 05:34 PM
That's great.
Why not only offer healthy food to the buying student body and the one's that want the unhealthy food can bring it from home.
Offer that advice free of charge, not interested in taking tax money for the obvious.
Somehow I feel smarter...
I'm with the "if you don't want them to eat it, don't have it" crowd. Same as at home. I understand that schools get money/goods from vendors for using certain foods and having pop machines. I think it's wrong.
zoel_222
10-12-2010, 06:28 PM
Ohfercryinoutloud.
If you don't want them to pick chocolate milk, don't serve chocolate milk.
Solved... where's my cut of the 2 million? :)
Totally.
Gotta love that government :rolleyes:
Remali
10-12-2010, 06:40 PM
And I have a home for all that chocolate milk.... I will gladly take it, all.... LOL.
Yeah, my mom always packed me a lunch in my paper bag too.... why don't we do that now...??!!. (I always had a tuna salad sandwich in my lunch at school.... loved those things ....)
Ragnar Danneskjold
10-12-2010, 08:24 PM
We've got kids that can't read or do math or think critically about anything they hear...
and we're worried about whether they are drinking chocolate milk?
Oh, fertheluvva...
Ah, there you go. RD gets a gold star on his chart today.
HoustonFarrier
10-13-2010, 06:28 AM
...Yeah, my mom always packed me a lunch in my paper bag too.... why don't we do that now...??!!. (I always had a tuna salad sandwich in my lunch at school.... loved those things ....)
PB&J.....the cornerstone of a well balanced diet :D:D
Steve
miatapony
10-13-2010, 06:43 AM
PB&J.....the cornerstone of a well balanced diet :D:D
Steve
what are they going to do about the kids that do take a lunch to school. My two think school lunches stink and that is me putting it mild. they take a lunch every day. they wont eat a school lunch .. and for the price ... omg it looks gross nothing like what i had as a kid in school.
natisha
10-13-2010, 09:44 AM
what are they going to do about the kids that do take a lunch to school. My two think school lunches stink and that is me putting it mild. they take a lunch every day. they wont eat a school lunch .. and for the price ... omg it looks gross nothing like what i had as a kid in school.There are some schools that censor what you send with your kids & will take away what they deem inappropriate. Now that is not right.
Buckpoco
10-13-2010, 07:01 PM
The local grocery store donated a few hundred pounds of oranges to my school. Half of my placement kindergarten class turned their nose up at them. Then my teacher made a special pumpkin loaf for the kids to try and a lot of them wouldn't even try it because it didn't have chocolate in it. :rolleyes:
My mom is a teacher. For the first week or two of class, she brings in a big bag of apples or pears and says "I brought too many pears! Who wants to share with me?" Then she uses an apple cutter and makes the kids who eat them (or other healthy food) feel really special. It's been working-- More and more kids have started to bring better food in. I guess that's psychology too.
Good psychology on your mom's part. Too often these kids aren't even exposed to good food.
miatapony
10-13-2010, 07:39 PM
well if they take something away from my kids we would have a war.. a major one at that.. if i buy is and send it to school then i deam it ok for them to eat .. i agree with you that is not right .. no way.. dont touch my kids lunch.
my sons lunch
PB&J
a fruit roll up
a small bag of chips
and a drink... some times its sugar less tea.. or some times its premixed Kool-Aid.
that is all .. not too much and he likes it..
zoel_222
10-13-2010, 10:27 PM
When I was a kid my mom always packed me a lunch except when we couldn't afford it and got the school's free lunches they provided for low income families. In middle school the only time I'd buy my lunch was Fridays when they'd have pizza day so I'd get a slice of pizza but still also eat a lunch brought from home.
My mom always packed me a sandwich, usually PBJ or Turkey, plus carrots, an apple, some crackers and a bottle of water.
The school lunches were nasty. It was always some reheated hunk of mystery meat on a cold dinner roll, a mushy apple and milk. Once I got a piece of "chicken" that was just a big chunk of backbone that was breaded and fried. It was freaking horrifying.
Another tale of government idiocy regarding the Dept's of Ag and Health lunch program:
Best school lunches that made kids experienced were at a small K through 12 school that had 85 to 90 kids and staff max. Two ranch ladies ran the kitchen, ordered for their own menus, and served everthing at the tables family style. Bowls, platters, you asked for what you wanted, had to at least try everything, and said "Thank you."
New county superintendent visits, eats lunch, shuts down our program. It can't be tracked for nutrition on the report some bureaucrat wants.
Our sad ranch ladies are told to bake "fish stars" and "tater spots" (not the name brand "tots"). We revolted. Stopped the gov't sponsored lunch program altogether and started a volunteer crock pot, roaster oven, and salad brigade.
County was PO'ed because they then lost money. Tried to stop our lunches and tried to stop us from using the lunchroom at the school. Some kids' parents were unable to participate financially. Didn't matter and they were included in the preperation or serving as they could.
miatapony
10-14-2010, 09:39 AM
ok mare im sending my kids to your schools for a year to see what its like ok... let me know how it goes....
cowgirlup@idaho
10-14-2010, 10:00 AM
IDIOTS!!! Kids will choose a treat over an apple almost everytime, they are kids :mad: It all boils down to money, how much and who gets it. Kids and nutrition is just an emotional hook to rationalize their inappropriate spending :nono:
FredRock
10-14-2010, 11:15 AM
If you went to my town's school and put chocolate milk behind regular milk, kids would reach behind to get chocolate milk. They revolted when the soda and candy machines were taken away.
The coolest thing about moving from the primary school to intermediate school was that you could buy icees, popcorn, and tons of other junk food in a concession stand at lunch. Half the time that's all I ever ate, because lunch took so long to get and it ended up being nasty. Now I knew it was "bad," but it was better than what they tried to pass off as decent food. Not to mention they served the same amount for every school but it increased a dollar as you moved. Never made sense to me.
Then in Jr. High and High School I stopped eating lunch and even going to the lunch room. I hated everything about it. Only in Senior year when I had early dismissal every day did I go back to eating lunch, because I went home. I never actually bought a lunch in High School, come to think of it. The line was always so long and the last lunch period ran out of the entree.
ok mare im sending my kids to your schools for a year to see what its like ok... let me know how it goes....
lol. I moved when the last one graduated. The one and two room schools here in my new area do that. Every family takes a day and provides the lunch for everyone.
Works great and the kids let you know about favorites that they want you to cook, I hear.
Gosh, mare, you would think people know how to cook and eat, or something. What a great story. I'm so happy the ranch girls didn't back down. We need more and more of that today.
"IDIOTS!!! Kids will choose a treat over an apple almost everytime, they are kids :mad:"
I have a confession to make. Naw, nevermind.
miatapony
10-14-2010, 01:03 PM
my daughter will eat apples, carrots over candy .. but my son whole nother story with that one.. but he eats his whole lunch and tells me about it when he gets home .. like how long it took him to eat his chips or his sandwich. ..
ok then i guess ill keep them here with me..
I love how everything is interesting to a kid. Like how long it took to eat his sandwich.:)
I was building something once when my niece was little. She asked me what I had in the can, and I said "Nails." She said "Oh, let me see!" I think about that often and smile.
miatapony
10-14-2010, 05:25 PM
ohh yes he is one of those kids that needs to know WHY .. ohh my i hate that word after awhile .... yup... love him and his questions but omg i hate that why word... lol
Ragnar Danneskjold
10-14-2010, 08:10 PM
"Because". :-)
No, Tiz, they didn't back down. They quit. Refused to cook that pre-fab crap. It was more expensive, too.
The county put out ads for new cooks, but no one in our area would take the job, knowing what had happened, and no one from the county seat would do the 74 mile round trip for a few hours at minimum wage!
I had coffee with my cow guy tonight in that town on my way down here to Denver. He said the parents and townspeople are still doing the lunches at the school. And that the Senior Center hosts a joint meal one day a month. I think that's great for both the kids and seniors!
cowgirlup@idaho
10-15-2010, 08:30 AM
And that the Senior Center hosts a joint meal one day a month. I think that's great for both the kids and seniors!
This is cool! on many different levels :)
GrungeEquestrian
10-15-2010, 09:56 AM
Originally Posted by Remali View Post
...Yeah, my mom always packed me a lunch in my paper bag too.... why don't we do that now...??!!. (I always had a tuna salad sandwich in my lunch at school.... loved those things ....)
Ditto. I had a brown sack lunch from kindergarten all the way to senior year. My first experience with cafeteria food started this year in college.
JackieB
10-15-2010, 10:06 AM
Our local school system has terribly unhealthy lunches for the main portion of the meal. Lots of chicken nuggets (processed, not whole pieces of chicken), french fries, etc. I guess the kids just won't eat healthier food. They'd still be better off taking that stuff off the menu, providing healthier options, and the kids could either eat it or not (up to them).
Well, kids will eat what you put before them, or they'll be plenty hungry when they get home. How asinine(I don't mean you, J, but the people in charge of the menu) to believe they just won't eat anything but garbage. It's just another example of the pussification of our culture. Yeah, I said it. It's true.
WashingtonBay
10-15-2010, 12:27 PM
I dunno. I personally think what we've got are a bunch of worriwarts that are making too much of kids liking french fries and hamburgers. There's nothing at all wrong with a kid eating french fries, hamburgers, and pizza, as long as he gets outside and gets some exercise once in awhile...
Like any of us... :innocent:
I can't stand food nazis.
JackieB
10-15-2010, 01:49 PM
I dunno. I personally think what we've got are a bunch of worriwarts that are making too much of kids liking french fries and hamburgers. There's nothing at all wrong with a kid eating french fries, hamburgers, and pizza, as long as he gets outside and gets some exercise once in awhile...
Like any of us... :innocent:
I can't stand food nazis.
In moderation. But it seemed like everytime I was there with Big Brothers/Big Sisters that the main part of the meal was really poor quality.
cowgirlup@idaho
10-15-2010, 05:24 PM
... pussification of our culture. Yeah, I said it.
:rolleyes: :p:hysterical: :hysterical: :greengrin: would that be a "slang" term? or just plain ole 'street talk' ;)
AUEquine
10-16-2010, 08:19 AM
My biggest complaint about food at our high school is there was no middle ground. You could either drink water and eat a salad, or it was greasy pizza and french fries. There was never a lean meat with a steamed vegetable. I always played sports and when you had a volleyball tri-match right after school, you need something a little more than a salad.
We did finally get to have iced tea as an option, though to avoid the sugar I'd have to get unsweet and bring splenda from home. Salads also costed extra to eat them. The cheapest lunch was the greasy nasty one.
They really didn't make it easy to eat healthy.
miatapony
10-16-2010, 08:22 AM
like i said before .. when i was paying for school lunches .. my kids would come home and ask for food .. not because it was healthy it was because it was gross .. if i get a chance too i will take a pic of what the school here serves as a school lunch. just to show you.
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