View Full Version : Need help identifying some of these bits please
Dakota Sunrise
01-29-2011, 04:25 PM
My mom was at an auction today and decided to bid on some horse stuff for my tack shop. She isn't a horse person and knows very little when it comes to tack, but she's hung out with me enough to know some of the very basics and she's great at getting a good deal on stuff. She bought me a tub of bits, about 20 or so, along with some other stuff. I recognize some of the bits, like the loose ring snaffle, the twisted snaffles, the tom thumb, etc. But a lot of them I can't begin to name. I took pictures of most of them (there's quite a few of the twisted snaffles and driving type bits, etc), can anybody tell me what they are, and what I could sell them for? I usually put $5.00 to $10.00 on bits in my tack shop. Some of them I think are too rusty to save and the rubber ones I'll probably just throw away because they're old. But some of them look pretty good.
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af355/ERA_526/tack%20shop/IMG_7738.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af355/ERA_526/tack%20shop/IMG_7739.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af355/ERA_526/tack%20shop/IMG_7740.jpg
ETA: here, this picture will be easier. I took out all the repeats and the ones I knew for sure. I think I know some of these ones now too, but just to make sure I'm calling them the right thing.
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af355/ERA_526/tack%20shop/IMG_7753.jpg
WashingtonBay
01-29-2011, 04:41 PM
Looks like a good buy!
The really long shanked swively solid mouth bits that sweep back are what's commonly called 'gaited' or 'walking horse' bits. (there's two of them)
The snaffles with the extension hanging down on just one side are commonly called driving bits.
The coppery colored solid mouth curb bit on the lowish right in the first picture is I think the curb portion of a double bridle or weymouth... should have a matching small ring snaffle with it. I don't see one that looks like a match in your others...
natisha
01-29-2011, 09:10 PM
You've got them so funkily arranged I couldn't keep track.
But:best i can do for now. You need to measure the shanks
1.mullen mouth curb
2.swivel shank low port walking horse bit
3.broken mouth curb-you've a bunch of them'4. loos ering snaffle
5.bradoon-you've a bunch of them (or snaffle for cruel person;))
6.same as 3
7.tom thumb
I can't do any more , lost track of where I was :)
pasolover2
01-30-2011, 06:31 AM
I see several walking horse bits, you can identify those by either going to www.nationalbridle.com (http://www.nationalbridle.com) and click on bits, they are broke down by type or go to World Champion http://www.ehorseequipment.com/browse-categories.aspx?cid=90 and check out the different style gaited horse bits. Hope these help you identify those gaited bits for you.
WashingtonBay
01-30-2011, 06:39 AM
DS, it would be easier for us to point out which is which if you put all the 'like' kinds together. ;)
You've got several copies of the same things... I think most of them have been covered, but if not... if you're still not sure... put them together and post them in groups so they're easier for us to point out.
Dakota Sunrise
01-30-2011, 07:23 AM
DS, it would be easier for us to point out which is which if you put all the 'like' kinds together. ;)
You've got several copies of the same things... I think most of them have been covered, but if not... if you're still not sure... put them together and post them in groups so they're easier for us to point out.
That's a good idea. I wasn't thinking that when I laid them out for pics. I just.. wasn't thinking.:innocent:
Stand by, I'll do it again and group them together better and put them in rows so it's easier to explain which one is what.
Dakota Sunrise
01-30-2011, 07:33 AM
Ok here, this picture will be easier. I took out all the repeats and the ones I knew for sure. I think I know some of these ones now too, but just to make:
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af355/ERA_526/tack%20shop/IMG_7753.jpg
Do you think $5.00-$10.00 each is fair? That's what I usually sell used bits for at my tack shop.
natisha
01-30-2011, 08:11 AM
1. Long shanked curb with single jointed mouthpiece. Mainly used Western, works like a Tom Thumb only worse
2.Loose long shanked low port walking horse
3.Long shanked low port cub-likely walking horse
4. Western low port with roller
5.Twisted wire snaffle-may be a bradoon
6.Straight rubber mouthed driving bit
7. Single jointed driving bit-I've seen both 6&7 used for English riding also.
Sorry I nagged you.:)
Dakota Sunrise
01-30-2011, 09:50 AM
1. Long shanked burb with single jointed mouthpiece. Mainly used Western, works like a Tom Thumb only worse
2.Loose long shanked low port walking horse
3.Long shanked low port cub-likely walking horse
4. Western low port with roller
5.Twisted wire snaffle-may be a bradoon
6.Straight rubber mouthed driving bit
7. Single jointed driving bit-I've seen both 6&7 used for English riding also.
Sorry I nagged you.:)
Thank you.
natisha
01-30-2011, 09:57 AM
Thank you.opps, #1 is curb- not burb:o
You're welcome.
Clean them with metal polish & they will look much nicer to buyers.
Dakota Sunrise
01-30-2011, 10:49 AM
opps, #1 is curb- not burb:o
You're welcome.
Clean them with metal polish & they will look much nicer to buyers.
I plan to. Some of them are really rusty and there's another rubber one that's really old that I think I'll just throw away. But a lot of the others are in pretty descent shape. The metal polish wouldn't hurt a horse though, right?
They're not bits that I would ever use on my horses (well, I have nothing against a few of them, like the loose ring, but still) but that doesn't mean some one won't want them. I've been having good luck selling used bits for $7.00 and $8.00 so that's probably what I'll do.
Dakota Sunrise
01-30-2011, 01:12 PM
What is the proper name for this one? I used this bit briefly a long time ago when I still thought I could train Beauty for barrel racing. But I just ride her in a full cheek snaffle now, and looking at this bit now it looks way too harsh and I don't want her wearing it again. So I'm going to sell it. And I think I'll sell the wonder bit I had for her too. Her old owners said she did well in it but I don't agree. So I might as well sell them both.
It has a rope nose, I just wrapped it in pink vet wrap to make it softer.
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af355/ERA_526/tack%20shop/IMG_7777.jpg
HeavensEast
01-30-2011, 03:48 PM
It looks like a gag bit of some sort. Not sure.
I am sure others will be more helpful than me. :p
Charlie Piccione
01-30-2011, 06:00 PM
Looks like something to break a jaw bone with!!!:eek:
I am glad you find no longer use for it.
Dakota Sunrise
01-30-2011, 06:30 PM
I know it's some kind of barrel racing bit, that's what her old owners told me she was used to- Wonder bits, little S hackmores, any gag bit with a rope nose, etc. I disagree so I dug around in the tack room to find the bits that I'll never use.
Looks like something to break a jaw bone with!!!:eek:
I am glad you find no longer use for it.
Oh, I don't know. As long as you keep King Kong from using it when he rides, the jawbones should survive.
miatapony
01-30-2011, 08:55 PM
it is a twisted wire rope nose gag bit.... and not all barrel racers use them .. just tou let you know...
Charlie Piccione
01-31-2011, 04:58 AM
Oh, I don't know. As long as you keep King Kong from using it when he rides, the jawbones should survive.
Tiz, Your right about that ( King Kong ). The horse would have a broken spine, no need for the bit at that point.
Dakota Sunrise
01-31-2011, 05:45 AM
it is a twisted wire rope nose gag bit.... and not all barrel racers use them .. just tou let you know...
I know, I never said they did. But I don't use it anyway so the point is moot. I just wanted to know the proper name for it.
I ride her in a full cheek snaffle.
natisha
01-31-2011, 05:57 AM
My friend used something like that to help her Show ASB learn to be a trail horse. It was the only thing that allowed her to stay off his mouth. I don't think it had the twisted mouthpiece but same concept. She only used it a short time but it did it's job. He's now a great trail horse & really light in a bit, snaffle.
While it looks crazy wicked in the right hands it has it's application.
miatapony
01-31-2011, 07:51 AM
i didnt mean it in a bad way sorry it came across that way .. i run barrels in a hack.. so .. it is really on how well you have your horse trained really.. i honestly didnt mean anything bad by it... and in the wrong hands any bit can be bad.. in the right hands any bit can be ok .. so this bit is great if you know how to use it....
Dakota Sunrise
01-31-2011, 08:07 AM
It's ok, miata.:)
I've tried countless bits on Beauty in a desperate attempt to find something that works. Nothing does so I finally just decided to stick with the full cheek snaffle and chalk up all her bad behavior to lack of training. She can run through any bit I put her in anyway so I might as well just use something mild and try to train her out of it instead of using stronger bits to get control. Which wouldn't work with her anyway.
miatapony
01-31-2011, 12:56 PM
if she is running through things your right it is lack of training and not ready for barrels... start her back in an O-ring snaffle... but that is something i would do if it were my horse.. good luck.
Dakota Sunrise
01-31-2011, 01:06 PM
Actually I'm not training her for barrels anymore, I gave up on that a long time ago.
I tried a loose o-ring snaffle on her and didn't like it too well, but the full cheek snaffle has worked okay for us. I just can't wait til spring so I can get out and train her. Tough to do in freezing cold temps with lots of snow and ice.
HeavensEast
01-31-2011, 01:35 PM
Lizzy, have you ever tried a Waterford D-ring snaffle with Beauty? Heaven used to grab the bit and go, there was no stopping him. I retrained him (with natisha's help) with a Waterford D-ring snaffle and he was very light and responsive.
Granted, it's not for every horse, but it worked very well for Heaven, who had a tendency of grabbing the bit and being uncontrollable.
Dakota Sunrise
01-31-2011, 01:41 PM
Nope, I never have. I've heard of that kind before but I'm not very familiar with it. I'll have to check it out.:)
vBulletin® v3.8.6, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.