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WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 02:04 PM
OK - I think I did myself in today with sugar. It's not the first time it's happened and I no longer think it's coincidence.

I used to love oatmeal with brown sugar. Lots of brown sugar. I mean I used to heap it on. It's the only thing about the oatmeal that's good, if you ask me. But the last few times I've had it I have felt positively awful afterward. I did it again today.

I felt great this morning, but I had lunch of a big bowl of oatmeal with a couple heaping spoonfuls of brown sugar, and I've felt like I was about to pass out ever since. Tired, dizzy, blurry, and I want to just go over to the couch and sleep.

I don't want to think I'm diabetic, though I guess I shouldn't be surprised if I am, I'm over 40, too pudgy, and my mother had it to some degree late in life too.

But can even a normal metabolism O.D. on that much sugar? Is this a major or a minor sign?

cloedoll
11-17-2008, 02:06 PM
I know hardly anything, but I'm kinda the opposite. If I don't have enough sugar I instantly pass out, aha. Hope you figure out what's going on.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 02:09 PM
Well, see your reaction is what I would expect! Sugar high, right? Sugar for a boost of energy! Now when I have too much sugar it puts me to sleep. Immediately, like I've been drugged.

mare
11-17-2008, 02:14 PM
I don't blame you for not wanting it to be diabetes. But, you know it'd be worth getting tested. Hope it's just an oatmeal allergy!

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 02:18 PM
Well there's a thought. I mean, I don't remember getting like this after french toast with lots of maple syrup this weekend. But it keeps happening after oatmeal.

I don't usually eat a lot of sweets, but I've never gone out of my way to avoid them either.

Tatesgram
11-17-2008, 02:18 PM
Sorry WB, it could be your blood sugar. Any thing else? Going to the bathroom a lot? Thirsty, tired?

If it is your blood sugar, you need to be tested. But don't fret, my mom was diagnosed in her late 60's, I was diagnosed last year. I go back next month and hopefully, I'll be rediagnosed as non-diabetic :)

'sides, Splenda makes a brown sugar. ;)

Wanted to add, if you are, probably type 2. Can be controlled with exercise and diet with an Rx, no shots.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 02:25 PM
Well, periodically tired and lazy, more often than I wish, but not always. I don't think I'm drinking or peeing too much.

The thing is, I would call the vet at the drop of a hat for an animal, but I have to be unconscious or bleeding to death to go to a doctor for myself.

I think I just better start eating better, and get more serious about losing weight. The last couple of years have not been good for my waistline.

oursarge
11-17-2008, 02:48 PM
WB I'm the same, I will call the vet at home at 11 pm if I need him but for me to go to the Dr it's a major deal like I have to be 1/2 dead. I would be a little worried though. I have had the test for diabetis because it runs in our family, my father's both parents had it and I have a cousin with juvinille diabetis. I have another cousin with low blood sugar, she was always passing out that's how they found her problem, she also gets real whacky when her sugar goes low.

It probably wouldn't hurt to go get the blood test, it'll only take a few minutes and then you'll know. If you do have a + test and catch it soon and watch your diet you probably won't even need pills. Our friend has adult diabetis and he manages it pretty well with just diet. It could also be that you are allergic to oatmeal or the brown sugar???? Does it happen when you eat anything else or just the oatmeal with brown sugar? Since I've been going to my natural healer I've been finding out so much about food allergies, I never knew that people could be allergic to so many different kinds of foods.

Take care of yourself, nobody wants anything happening to you, go get the test! I hope you are fine.

cyb
11-17-2008, 02:52 PM
Well when I have too much sugar I feel that way, sort of a sugar high then I really crash all of a sudden, I feel nauseus and lightheaded and a lot of the time its after I eat oatmeal too, I put brown sugar splenda on mine with cinnamon too. If I feel that way I usually go and find something else to eat because to me food is the answer to any ailment, headache .......... I must need to eat, nausea hmm I must need to eat, lightheaded ....... I must need to eat again, You would think I should be overweight but I'm 5'2 and 106 pounds.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 02:54 PM
So far it's just the oatmeal and brown sugar that have done this to me, with the blurry and the swimmy awful feeling.

I hadn't had it in awhile, and I suddenly had a hankering for it, but what happened now is exactly what happened last time.

It seems like I can eat oats in other forms.... Honey Bunches of Oats cereal doesn't do this to me.

cyb
11-17-2008, 03:02 PM
I forgot to say my doctor said that whatever it is in my system that regulates my bloodsugar is sluggish because he checked my sugar in his office and it was high, well he didn't exactly say sluggish but I can't think of the term he used. I am also hypothyroid and have colitis.

Rod44
11-17-2008, 03:04 PM
Are you drinking enough water? If not it can make you tired and bla all over.

mare
11-17-2008, 03:05 PM
I was kidding about the oatmeal allergy. But, I guess it could happen. :huh:

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 03:10 PM
I think I drink the right amount of water. My hubby and I joke that some people focus on the bowel to determine health... I tend to think all health stems from good hydration. ;) Maybe that sounds crazy and only makes sense to us. :D

Ah well, there's a lot of things about me I could rattle off in a good exam. I guess I'll go in at the first of the year, might as well at least wait and get some mileage out of my annual deductible. We keep paying for medical insurance and we've never used it. :)

Remali
11-17-2008, 03:18 PM
It may not be a bad idea to get tested. I sort of have the opposite problem.....if I don't eat at least every 4 hours I get real shaky and weird feeling, so I probably have hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). I did have some other symptoms too tho (having to piddle often was one of them, and I am thirsty a lot...), and my doc wanted to test me for diabetes....but I had a hard time fasting for the blood test, so I never got it done......yet.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 03:25 PM
Thanks... I think I may be trodding close to some line, I just don't want to go in and have it turn into a major production. I'd like to try just eating better and losing a little weight and THEN talk.

rocknK
11-17-2008, 03:31 PM
In the mean time Dr. rocknK prescribes cutting out the oatmeal & brown sugar! Get yourself checked out now. The blood test are fast & easy. Then you'll know. Good luck.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 03:35 PM
Gotcha doc... No oatmeal and brown sugar.

Blood test... that's with a needle, right? :eek:

rocknK
11-17-2008, 03:39 PM
Yea, kinda like a knitting needle, only bigger! Or they could just amputate something like what happens when folks get real sick from diabetes. Just go see your regular doc, tell him I sent you. He'll know what to do. Again, good luck. Let us know how everything turns out.

Remali
11-17-2008, 03:42 PM
It wasn't the needle that scared me.....it was the not eating for like 8 to 12 hours before the test.....lol.
Goes to show ya how much I love to eat...ha ha ha..... You can have the test right away in the morning tho, makes it easier to fast that way.

RocknK....you crack me up!

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 03:48 PM
You say "your regular doctor" like I even know who that is. ;)

I haven't been to a doctor in 5 years, and that was an Urgent Care/Emergency type place.

rocknK
11-17-2008, 03:56 PM
Might be time to find one. Trust me you'll be needing them more regularly than you want to. One of the benefits of getting older, or should I say side-effects. Quit talking about it & do it! Don't make me get in my truck & head north & grab you by your ear & drag you to the doc kicking & screaming like a little girl!:nono:

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 04:02 PM
ROTFL! I would too! - kick and scream!

I'll go in for a head-to-toe check up, I promise! I know I need to.

But I might as well wait till January and get a year's mileage out of my deductible. It'll be here before we know it!

vicklynn
11-17-2008, 04:10 PM
When I thought I was having sugar issues, I changed my diet. Ate proper meals, good snacks inbetween, ect. Three weeks later, I was fine. Sometimes that is what it takes, get yourself on good food. Stay away from the stuff that bothers you, including oatmeal and brown sugar. Have you tried one without the other, see if its the oatmeal vs brown sugar? Remember, a healthy breakfast is important. I didnt say go eat everything at the breakfast bar though....lol. Sounds good though hu?

rocknK
11-17-2008, 04:12 PM
I really don't think the tests are that expensive. Save the complete physical for next year. Get the blood work done pronto. Nothing to fool with, could mess with your eyesight as well. Especially when I have to slap you silly while draggin' you to the Doc's. As you can tell I am nothing if not persistant. Have you made an appt. yet?? Pick up the phone & call.:mad:

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 04:17 PM
But how do I get the blood tests if I don't even have a doctor? Just walk into the ER and ask for a blood test? I'm serious. I don't know who I'd give blood TO, without going through the process of meeting with some doctor who will from then on be called my doctor and paying for an office call where the idea of tests are discussed.

Unless my vet can do it. :D I at least know his number.

I never go to doctors, I've always been a pretty low maintenance gal. I don't know how the process works but I think I pay the first $500 or so of work and then insurance starts picking up most of the tab. Seeing as how I never go to the doctor, I've never gotten above the deductible, even on the Urgent Care visit 5 years ago.

Gypsy Rose
11-17-2008, 04:23 PM
Funny, WB!

Please just don't put your health at risk- a change of diet may do the trick, but it never hurts to get checked out.

Dixie
11-17-2008, 04:29 PM
You can have the blood test done at an urgent care place. Most of those places do schedule appts for regular stuff. Call one that you go to and see what they say.

Gotta agree with RocknK it is not something to fool with. My FIL is a very bad diabetic and when his sugar gets to high, he nearly passes out, falls down, can't remember stuff. Scary stuff, nothing to fool with. It is manageable especially if you catch it early and it is something that can be regressed with proper care if you don't wait to long to go in for that blood test.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 04:38 PM
I know I should. I probably need my girlie parts looked at too. :o If my mother were here that's what she'd be nagging me about.

I'm feeling better now, just a few hours of really feeling lousy after that lunch. And the blurry vision was really bothering me and making me think it was blood sugar.

I don't think it's an emergency now, but I'll eat better AND go to the doctor soon after the holidays.

oursarge
11-17-2008, 05:31 PM
Maybe your vet can take your blood!!!!!!

If you feel lousy and shaky etc. go to the ER the first thing they will do it take blood. They'll test it for everything then let you know then you can go home. I know this because I too hate Drs but I got really really sick and my husband called his Dr who said to take me to the ER and they took like 5 Vials of blood out of me, I called the guy a Vampire. They never did find out what was wrong except they thought it was from the sinuses dripping, I have a terrible time with that.

Tomorrow we have the excitement of going to the clinic for him to get his intestines looked at. Last week it was the stomach scope. I'm a nervous wreck, I hate tests, to me when they want to do tests it means there is something wrong. I just hope he's OK. Between him and the dog I'm going to be in the assylum soon. I'm just so worried.

Take care of yourself WB I know I shouldn't talk because I'm the same way [I haven't seen a girlie part Dr in 11 yrs, before that it was 20+, I'm not proud of it I just hate Drs] but if it is diabetis [Chances are it's not and you can be allergic to oats. I'm not sure if that comes under Gluten Allergy or not] it's nothing to fool around with, 2 months can be a long time to wait and a difference between regulating it with diet, pills or insulin, you really don't want insulin if you can prevent it.

If we all hear you screaming we know rockinK is dragging you to the Dr!

WashingtonBoy
11-17-2008, 06:03 PM
I don't think it's an emergency now, but I'll eat better AND go to the doctor soon after the holidays.

OK, hon, but if you have one more episode of this, we ain't waiting.

rocknK
11-17-2008, 06:27 PM
Girlie parts.....rocknK changes the subject! Seen any good movies lately??:p

WashingtonBoy
11-17-2008, 06:32 PM
Well, Horseless should show up any minute now that we're talking about girlie parts.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 06:34 PM
Well at least I know how to get you guys to stop naggin' me about doctors :p

Mandzanita
11-17-2008, 06:36 PM
Try eating the oatmeal with no brown sugar...just pinch your nose and down the hatch! That will rule out wether it's oat related. Start the process of elimination...

rocknK
11-17-2008, 06:36 PM
:nono:Not me, I'm not THAT kinda Dr. I just stayed at a Holiday Inn. I think you really gotta go to skool to learn all about girlie plumbing.

alittleoffkey
11-17-2008, 06:40 PM
The thing is, I would call the vet at the drop of a hat for an animal, but I have to be unconscious or bleeding to death to go to a doctor for myself.

Look Will! I told you I'm not the only one! :cool:

My grandmother (who has diabetes) feels like that when she's had too much sugar. Hers isn't serious to any degree, but she does keep a watch on it. Oatmeal does break down into sugar fairly quickly. I'm the same as Remali - I eat every four hours; and as any of my friends can attest, I get very unpleasant if denied my eating time.

Papa has 'sugar'. I don't know the medical term, but it's basically pre-diabetes. He gets dizzy and tired if he has way too much sugar, but otherwise he's fine. He doesn't test his blood sugar or anything and it's easily controlled by his diet.

I agree with Vick - eat the naturally green stuff (lime jello doesn't count :p), cut out the carbonation (I did that a few years ago and it makes me feel funny if I have more than one Coke a day now) - read the ingredients in what you eat - if you can't pronounce or aren't 100% certain of what the first three are, put it back.

I assume you don't have one, but your gyn can run those bloodtests... at least mine will (and you should be going to one of those every year - you're older than me and I go every year! :nono:). You can ask the nice secretary at your local Urgent Care (since you know where that one is ;))for a reference, she probably knows a good one (and she could reference you to a good normal doctor).

Don't make us all come up there and drag your butt to the doctor, we're going to hold you to the January promise! Go ahead and try to make an appointment soon; they're usually fairly busy around the first of the year.

WashingtonBay
11-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Thanks for the info and the lecture ALOK - I hear ya. :) I'll go, and be careful till then.

alittleoffkey
11-17-2008, 07:35 PM
Heh, I'm the first one to say "go to the doctor" to others... but when it comes to me going, it's always "Nah... it's not that purple/swollen/painful/odd/difficult to breathe. It can wait a few more days..." :innocent: Then Will drags my butt to the ER and the doctor says something along the lines of "Wow!" or "Well... that's interesting." :D

Dakota Sunrise
11-17-2008, 08:21 PM
I hope everthing is ok with you, WB. My dad is pre diabetic, but he says it's no big deal. The thought of doctors alone scares me, but then I can be a bit irrational when it comes to the whole medical proffesion...:innocent:


Well when I have too much sugar I feel that way, sort of a sugar high then I really crash all of a sudden, I feel nauseus and lightheaded and a lot of the time its after I eat oatmeal too, I put brown sugar splenda on mine with cinnamon too. If I feel that way I usually go and find something else to eat because to me food is the answer to any ailment, headache .......... I must need to eat, nausea hmm I must need to eat, lightheaded ....... I must need to eat again, You would think I should be overweight but I'm 5'2 and 106 pounds.


I'm the same way, pretty much. (Except I can eat oatmeal and not feel sick, although I don't put *that* much brown sugar on it.) If I eat too much "junk" food and not enough good stuff, it makes me feel nauseus sometimes. If I don't eat often enough (and I have a bad habbit of skipping meals) then I get lightheaded, shakey, and headaches.
And I'm not diabetic, I just need to eat regurally and should actually consume a vegetable now and then (and keep the junk food to a miniumum)!:p

Cat
11-17-2008, 08:29 PM
Diabetes runs high in my family and I need to get myself checked out, but keep putting it off. Its not something to mess around with.

However, as to the oatmeal - is this instant oatmeal? My mom is diabetic and isn't suppose to have instant oatmeal. Do to how the process it, it breaks down very quickly into sugar in the system, and then you add regular sugar on top of it and it can cause a huge sugar spike which can make you feel horrid. A diabetic, and pre-diabetic, can not handle those sugar levels properly and you will feel sluggish. One thing you can do to help is switch to splenda as someone has already suggested, but you can also use "oldfashioned oats" - they are much better for your system.

They also say cinnamon can help regulate blood sugar, so I like using a splenda & cinnamon mixture on my oatmeal. Tasty.

rocknK
11-18-2008, 05:35 AM
WB, never too early to make an appt for Jan 2nd, it's a Friday. Call NOW!!!


WashBoy, let me know if you need help. You can grab her by one ear & I'll grab her by the other ear. We might need ear plugs & shin guards. Might need a few ropes too!:p

rums_mom
11-18-2008, 06:00 AM
Hmmm.....classic symptoms of high blood sugar. The after lunch feeling like you are bottoming out?

Bascially you are getting a sugar high off of your food, once the sugar is burned off your insulin levels are bottoming out, which is low blood sugar. Oftentimes, hypoglycemia goes hand in hand with hyperglycemia. Many pre-diabetics are able to control their sugar levels with diet, especially a low carb diet. Remember that carbs are converted to sugar in your blood.

Start out by reducing your carbs, and yes oatmeal is high in carbs. Read labels, try to go to a more vegetarian diet, but really meat for diabetics is not bad. Also look into a website that has diet suggestions for diabetics, I am sure there are loads out there.
Best of luck to you, WB. Another option? Do you know anyone who is diabetic that would let you "borrow" their glucose monitor? It is only a finger stick to test your sugar levels.

You may decide to wait to see a doctor for an official diagnosis but don't wait to get a handle on your symptoms by regulating your diet. Oh, and keep a food journal and write down how you feel after you eat certain foods and go from that as well.

cyb
11-18-2008, 06:16 AM
Rums mom I was going to suggest the same thing about using someones glucometer, my niece is diabetic and she has taken my blood sugar before. A good level is 75 - 100 remember to check it first thing in the morning before you eat anything or you won't get a correct reading.

WashingtonBay
11-18-2008, 06:30 AM
It was instant oatmeal, interesting that there's a distinction.

I wish I had someone around that had a meter.... but I don't.

Thanks everyone! It's not something I know a whole lot about.

Miracle Whip
11-18-2008, 07:54 AM
Start checking the carbs. I am type 2 Diabetic. They told me that bagels are bad for diabetics, too many carbs. Its not the sugar. Its the carbs. I can eat oatmeal no problem but I don't put any additional sugar on it.
I get sleepy after eatting too much spaghetti. Again, pasta has carbs. Plus I never eat just one plate of speghetti.

Time to get off the forum and ride more horses. Once I moved to the country I lost 40 pounds in 3 years, all from riding english, poop patrol etc. I work weekends at a local barn just for the exercise since its kind of cold outside this time of the year.

Man, I eat instant oatmeal no problem. I do dump cinnamon on it a lot of the time.. weird

WashingtonBay
11-18-2008, 08:28 AM
Aw geeze. If I can't put brown sugar on my oatmeal I probably just won't eat it.

The sugar was the only thing that made it worth eating! Without sugar, I might as well just pour some milk on the pine shavings I use in the stalls.

cloedoll
11-18-2008, 08:40 AM
Blood test... that's with a needle, right? :eek:Just think, our poor ponies get jabbed all the time with needles and they don't even know why, at least we do. =D

I really hope nothing serious is going on. (:

FrogInABlender
11-18-2008, 08:58 AM
OK, hon, but if you have one more episode of this, we ain't waiting.

There ya go!! Use Rock's technique and drag her by the ear if you have to! :whack:

cyb
11-18-2008, 09:19 AM
Aw geeze. If I can't put brown sugar on my oatmeal I probably just won't eat it.

But you can still but brown sugar splenda on it it still has some sugar in it 2g sugars in 1/2 packed teaspoon or you can use Sugar Twin Brown sugar replacement which has 0 Sugars in it. I have tried brown sugar splenda on oatmeal and you can hardly tell the difference but I have not tried the sugar twin.

WashingtonBay
11-18-2008, 09:23 AM
I'll think about that stuff and maybe try it down the road!

Right now even thinking about eating oatmeal with brown sugar makes me a little swimmy, so now at least part of this is all in my head. :crazy:

rums_mom
11-18-2008, 10:07 AM
I think actually cinnamon is supposed to be really good for keeping your blood sugar regulated, I know it is good for a lot of other medical conditions. And it tastes good.

WashingtonBay
11-18-2008, 10:14 AM
I like cinnamon... Been awhile since we bought any, but it's a good holiday flavor anyway :)

I feel okay after a breakfast of fried eggs with toast and jam, but I've sure felt better. I think I just need to get out of this house and get some exercise! It's not too bad of a day today, I may go lunge my horse and see how ~he's~ feeling.

sarhound
11-18-2008, 10:30 AM
You know, if you're good friends with your vet, you might be able to talk him out of his glucometer for a few minutes so you can check your sugar...if I were closer, I'd check it for you.

I've been married to two diabetics. Both of them complained of the blurry vision problem when their sugars got over 200. My late husband used to get really sluggish with a high blood sugar, but he was also the one who could drop a sugar down to 20 in a heartbeat and go into seizures. My current husband is not nearly as brittle as my first one was.

It would be a good idea to go ahead and see what's going on. Prolonged high sugars can cause multiple problems, and I wouldn't want you to go thru some of the things that my late husband had to endure. Plus, as a nurse, it's my job to get folks to see a doctor when there are new onsets of symptoms.;)

WashingtonBay
11-18-2008, 10:35 AM
I understand! And I'm getting my head around the idea of getting in and getting myself taken care of, whatever that takes.

But it takes awhile to work up to it. :)

Right now, I really do just need to get out for awhile. The power of suggestion is HUGE with me. I can sit here and work myself into feeling swimmy and blurry just talking about it.

It's true. I could work myself into the flu if I put my mind to it, or out of it, depending. I'm very impressionable, and my eyes are already watering. ;)

HaveFaith
11-18-2008, 10:36 AM
The test I use to distinguish diabetics from non-diabetics is a Hemoglobin A1C. It is a 3 month average of you blood sugar, whereas, a finger stick is a one time right that minute check. I use the HA1C's every 3 months on the diabetics also to see if their medications are controlling the diabetes. If the HA1C is above 5.9 it is w/in Diabetic range. If it is below 6.5 it is pretty well controlled, but still diabetic. They are done in percentages and not points (60-99 for normal before eating and < 140 after eating) like the fingersticks. Having DM II longterm and not treating it can lead to kidney failure, blindness, amputations (after the sores that won't heal), and major heart problems, just to name the biggies.
The HA1C is drawn from blood and costs around $25 at our lab.
The diet info you've been given about the low carb/higher protein foods is pretty good. Good job, people.

rocknK
11-18-2008, 11:22 AM
WB, what part of blindness, amputations, & heart problems don't you hear???? Did I tell you that persistance is one of my best qualities!!:p

WashingtonBay
11-18-2008, 11:30 AM
I hear all of it! That's why I won't let it get that bad. I promise!

I measure all of that against what I feel and assess that I need to be careful and be checked, but I'm not in a state of emergency right now today. I feel a little woozy after a sugar overload is all. That doesn't mean I'm an advanced case now. My vision and healing is very good. I cut myself all the time and I heal fine. I don't even wear glasses, my vision is 20/20. I'll start investigating who I want to go see for a primary doctor, and asking friends for who they go to, and get in, in the near term. I'm glad I posted the thread, because I learned a lot about what to look for and how it works.

I want to go lunge my horse but he's been napping. I think it would be rude to do it now. :p

Miracle Whip
11-20-2008, 11:30 AM
Get that lazy horse of yours moving Wb. Exercise is one of the BEST things you can do as a Diabetic. It will help you PROCESS the sugar in your body AND burn calories so you lose weight. I know its cold. But we only live once in this world. Just BRUSHING a horse is good exercise, in the spring time when I start brushing m arms are sore from the workout. Plus, it helps lower stress for you and the horse. If you don't want to see the doctor, and believe me, I've been to a few that scare the living daylights out of me, exercise and diet will help you enjoy your horses for a much longer time. How long can you do the rising trot? Once, twice around the pen?? Invest in some riding lessons. Sounds silly, but the exercise is worth it. You will be able to walk better, breathe better, and bend over better...

rocknK
12-26-2008, 12:56 PM
WB, have you made your Drs. appt yet????????:nono:

WashingtonBay
12-26-2008, 01:11 PM
Uh oh! :o ... no - but I haven't had any overt problems again either. Been exercising (whether I wanted to or not - this snow is hard work!) and eating right :)

But I will get a checkup, after the first of the year.

Miracle Whip
12-26-2008, 02:00 PM
Just wanted to say I had a bit of a scare myself recently. I had the flu over Christmas and I got very dehydrated. At the hospital I received 4 bags of IV fluid.

It all started when I made 2 meals one night - Chicken Helper, which was Terriyaki sauce and rice with chicken and a tator tot casserole. I ate a plate of both. Then I started puking and had it coming out both ends non stop. I was wearing a diaper by the time I got to the hospital 3 days later.

The doctors didn't say my diabetes had anything to do with it but they did give me a shot of insulin. When you are sick your blood sugars go up...and its harder to re-cooperate I guess. They said the insulin shot would or could help me get over the flu.. You have to be really careful what you eat when you are sick I guess...

I like to work outside in the winter too, but I wonder if I didn't wear myself out TOO much and got sick that way. I don't know.

Watch out for carbs. Noodles, pasta, potatoes etc.

Horserider
12-26-2008, 02:07 PM
Uh oh hope everything's perfectly fine WB and this is just a small problem like an allergy to oatmeal. When I don't get enough sugar I usually start to feel light-headed and a bit dizzy (though I've never passed out). When I have a lot of sugar on an empty stomach I just start to feel sick. That's why I have to be careful not to drink pop early in the day or if I haven't eaten a lot.

offgridgirl
12-26-2008, 03:38 PM
Don't forget stress....luggin' water to horses,worried about branches fallin....truck stuck.... All of that plus sugar will get any one to have a reaction!!:innocent: I'm sure it will be nothin' more than regulating your diet and getting regular low-impact exercise. The needle thingy may come-up, thou..sorry:eek:

outriding01
12-26-2008, 09:30 PM
Hey, dunno why it took me so long to stumble on this, but I have several extra meters if you want me to send you one? You can usually buy test strips without a prescription (although I think I have some extras of those lying around somewhere too...). I have 3 ,eters I use regularly and the rest I got free in the mail from different websites. I'll try and dig them up again because all you have to do is say you're diabetic and they'll ship them to you absolutely free. They make all the money off the test strips anyways, so they want as many people as possible to use their meters.
When you say you feel "blurry" do you mean just a general feeling? Or does your vision go a bit blurry? Anyways, rums mom is right, carbs are what you have to worry about when you're diabetic. Carbs are sugar. 1 gram of sugar equals 1 gram of carbs. I recommend buying the Calorie King Calorie, Fat, and Carbohydrate Counter book to keep track of the carbs you're eating and seeing how it affects you. If I send you a meter, or you get your own, you should test when you wake up (fasting glucose), before every meal, 2 hours after meals, and before bed. A normal fasting range is 80-120. A normal 2 hour post meal reading is <180 (depending on how many carbs you ate). Let me know if you want the meter! I leave to hunt in Alabama this week and won't have any civilized connection (internet, phone, post office) for a while...

ETA:
Here's a free offer for a 1 of 2 Freestyle meters (my favorite) but it takes 3-4 weeks to deliver....
https://www.freestylelite.com/freestyleworld/landing.asp?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=ContextualAd&utm_content=GoogleBloodGlucoseMeterByStAd7&utm_campaign=freestyleworld&code=hd74kd

Here's one for 1 of 2 One Touch meters (my second fav). Again, 3-4 weeks...
https://www.onetouchgold.com/simplestart/

And here's one for Accu-check. Not quite as cool, but they send you free skins to decorate it with, lol. This is the one I can send you if you want...
https://www.accu-chek.com/promo/us/avivaSkinsPromo.htm

I have 2 of every meter here, plus an extra Freestyle Flash and 2 addtional Onetouch Ultra Links for my pump. When it asks, say you're type 2, make up a recent diagnoses date and say you treet with oral meds, diet and exercise.

WashingtonBay
12-27-2008, 04:39 AM
Thanks all.... offgrid... no needles! :eek:


outriding... I don't think I need a meter - yet anyway... I wouldn't know what to look for in the results anyway, but it's a really kind offer. I think what I need first is a talk with a doctor and a checkup, and let them take me to school on it if necessary because I don't know much now.

I don't think I'm a serious case... absent a sugar overload like I had before the OP, I don't have issues, just occasional days where I feel more 'blah' and tired than I should. That's what I mean by blurry. Not really a vision problem, just a general swimmy dizzy feeling.

We've been a lot more active with all this winter weather, chores that need doing, and I've been feeling really good. Muscles sore, but that's a different problem :)

Me'N'Chic
12-27-2008, 06:22 AM
I agree with the pre-diabetic stuff--It sounds like you are beginning to have what I have heard called insulin resistance. If you start to cut out "bad carbs" you can ward off that type of diabetes--these are signs that your body is beginning to have problems processing sugar and the carbs that are too easy to break down into sugar ( alot of the white foods--white rice, white bread, potatoes, sugar, white flour, alot of the processed foods). They say you should switch to more complex carbs( veggies, brown rice, veggies, whole wheat bread, veggies, etc, he! he!) Maybe look up insulin resistance and read a little on low-carb diets ( not that you need to be that drastic!) and see if you can get some info.

I have felt that way before--oddly enough, I would often feel that way AFTER I had my coffee with cream and SUGAR in the mornings! I feel like I just HAD to lay down and take a nap--NOW! -- so groggy and sleepy. I have done the low-carb diets a few times and I always feel better eating that way--then after I lose a few pounds I would tweak it some to add back in the good carbs!

Take care--I hope you feel better!

Miracle Whip
12-27-2008, 08:39 PM
Yes you can buy test strips without a prescription but my insurance plan actually paid for the strips. Back in the old days anyway when I HAD insurance. They are more expensive if you don't run in through insurance.

WBay - I have a strong strong fear of ever having to give myself a shot. You are not alone.

pandorasmom
12-27-2008, 08:58 PM
The thing is, I would call the vet at the drop of a hat for an animal, but I have to be unconscious or bleeding to death to go to a doctor for myself.



Ditto on that! I worry about everything with the critters and anything off I'm there to see what needs to be done next.
For myself, I'd have to be dying, dead, or unconscious to get me there. LOL

I don't know what to tell you besides I'll be praying for you and hope all is okay.
My friend who owns the rescue we volunteer for is a Diabetic. She's in her 40's now and been a diabetic since 9 yrs of age. Can't remember which type she has though.

Thoughts coming your way!

Duchess47
12-27-2008, 09:46 PM
I didn't read the whole thread so forgive me if this has been addressed. Do you have any friends or relatives that are diabetic? If so, they will have a meter and can check your blood. Please do something soon - diabeties can be handled with diet and exercise alone if you catch it early enough. If not, lots of meds and eventually shots.

ProvenPaint
12-27-2008, 11:41 PM
Sorry to hear somethings up WB. You better get in to the docs!

On the bright side, if doc says that more exercise would help, then you have a docs perscription for more horse riding! ;) So instead of doing something else you can just say, "Nope, sorry. Doc says I have to ride" lol

That's why I love my chiro. When I'm out bad he knows I haven't riden for a little while so he tells me "get back on that horse! Bareback is best" :) Yes, Doc. Not a problem! ;)

JetLagaside
12-28-2008, 05:08 PM
I'm another one that needs to be totally out of controll to go see a Dr. ;) well I was just in and had the fasting bloodwork done and here's how I got around the not eating for 10 hours I scheduled it for 8am that way it didn't seem like as long and I could run home and EAT :) told the lady making the schedule I get really nasty when I don't eat and we didn't even want to go there :) thankfully everything came back good.
I'm another one that if I don't eat I feel light headed and just sorta all out of wack.

pandorasmom
12-28-2008, 06:27 PM
I'm another one that needs to be totally out of controll to go see a Dr. ;) well I was just in and had the fasting bloodwork done and here's how I got around the not eating for 10 hours I scheduled it for 8am that way it didn't seem like as long and I could run home and EAT :) told the lady making the schedule I get really nasty when I don't eat and we didn't even want to go there :) thankfully everything came back good.
I'm another one that if I don't eat I feel light headed and just sorta all out of wack.

My dad's the same way. He had colon cancer back in 2006 and had some bloodwork done a few times and had to stay off food. It wasn't good. hehe He has to have food. He has high metabolism(I think that's what it is) and therefore can eat like a horse and not gain any weight.
He was put on iv's for over 2 1/2 wks when he was in the hospital for his month stay and he lost 52 lbs. He has to eat and hated not being able to for the bloodwork,surgery,etc.

HoustonFarrier
12-29-2008, 06:31 AM
If I was in your shoes...I'd go the the MD and get an A1C blood test. That will give a "trend" of your blood sugars over the last 6 months. Kinda sounds like you are a Type II diabetic. My bro is Type II (he's VERY overweight), my daughter is a Type I....but...I am no expert on it ;)

Steve

Palogal
12-29-2008, 07:55 AM
Well, see your reaction is what I would expect! Sugar high, right? Sugar for a boost of energy! Now when I have too much sugar it puts me to sleep. Immediately, like I've been drugged.

Diabetes runs in my family...I don't have it yet..but I'm hypoglycemic, which sounds like may be your problem. I have problems like that will too much sugar or even when i've not had enough. No special diet or anything just have to be careful. When I feel like that I eat some nuts or something with protein in it and it helps.

Fruit juice is a lie. Really, if you want fruit, eat fruit. As for your brown sugar craving, eat some peanut buttered toast with it or some sausage or something with protein and it should help.

WashingtonBay
12-29-2008, 07:59 AM
Thanks guys for your continued ideas and thoughts. I'll let ya all know what I find out. :)