What wormer for Dreamer????

[PatriotsDreamer]

I used to have Dreamers worming schedual/ wormers written down but i must have misplaced it. What would be best to worm him for this time of year. He is in southern illinois. He was last wormed with panacur. I dont want to get a fecal float until spring. he is a comming 3 year old

[Joey A]

I'z ain't all dat techmikal bout poo verms. I donn eben no wht Panacur iz.

Mine are all out on pasture, and I worm monthly until the first freeze, then every 6 weeks until March. I rotate on Zimectrin Gold, Strongid Paste, and Safe Guard.

[vicklynn]

For me, my next worming is in December, and it is for tapeworms. Last was Octobers worming for bots, which was Ivermectin. I dont use Panacur, and when Moxidectin(the other wormer used for this time here)is used, its for spring time here. Not sure what schedule you are on where your at.

[Annie&Dixie]

I'm in Ohio and our next wormer (for the entire barn) is in December and it's Equimax, it's for the tapeworms. Hope this helps.

[WashingtonBay]

I suppose you want something more scientific than "just close your eyes and grab one"? ;)

[Ryle]

1. When was the last deworming?
2. Is she turned out or stalled?

3. If turned out is it a dry lot or pasture? How much acreage?

4. Do you pick up feces out of the turnout every 2-3 days?

5. Are other horses in the pasture too? If so do they get dewormed regularly? What are their ages?

6. Do you have extreme weather---summers over 100 degrees for extended periods or winters below 40 degrees for extended periods?
7. Why do you not want to get a fecal egg count done until spring?

[cloedoll]

I'm no help, but I hope you figure this out soon. =)

I'z ain't all dat techmikal bout poo verms. I donn eben no wht Panacur iz.

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[PatriotsDreamer]

Here.1. When was the last deworming? Last de worming was 8 weeks ago
2. Is he turned out or stalled? he is turned out during the day(8-3) and stalled at night

3. If turned out is it a dry lot or pasture? How much acreage? He is turned out in pastures, not sure exact acreage id say probably 8-9 acres

4. Do you pick up feces out of the turnout every 2-3 days? Feces is picked up every day

5. Are other horses in the pasture too? If so do they get dewormed regularly? What are their ages? he is turned out with one other horse, she is 20 and is dewormed regularly. Over the summer though we had a total of 6 horses there and have had around that for the last 2 years.all were wormed regularly.

6. Do you have extreme weather---summers over 100 degrees for extended periods or winters below 40 degrees for extended periods? We have some days with weather over 100 and yes we have weather below 40 for extended periods of time.
7. Why do you not want to get a fecal egg count done until spring? Its not necc. that i dont want to, its that i cant afford it right now i had a really bad accident. I just went by ambulance ER last night with some complications from the accident back in sept. by spring i should be back up on my feet though and will get one done then. Plus his vet is 30-45 minutes away from the barn and about 1:10 minutes away from my house. farm call is around 60-65 bucks.

[Ryle]

With fecal material removed daily and all the horses getting dewormed, you have a pretty low risk of reinfection. Really, you are probably wasting your money deworming on the regular 6-8 week deworming schedule. You probably can get away with much less frequent dewormings, but you should have fecal egg counts run every 3 months or so to see what kind of parasite load your horse really carries---the pasture could be more contaminated that we would assume from the management of it or your horse could be one of the more susceptible horses. (20% of horses carry 80% of the parasite load---some are more resistant to the parasites and and some are less.)

Depending on what you are paying for dewormers, the fecal egg counts shouldn't be that big of a price difference. You can even send them out to Horsemen's lab via mail and have them run.
http://www.horsemenslab.com/

As far as the vet being a long way from the barn, consider having someone else from the barn drop a sample by for you if they drive that way home or if they are taking their horse in for an exam. You can collect a sample and put it in the fridge for a couple of days before running it so the timing of when you collect and someone is going by the clinic isn't that big a problem.

I would recommend dropping panacur from your deworming regimen. In the majority of the areas studied (90+%), it is not effective against strongyles anymore so it's use in adult horses is really limited. This is likely a waste of money for you.

[PatriotsDreamer]

I really do appriciate all your advice ryle.

We have a total of 2 horses at the barn now. My horse Dreamer, and the BO horse sara. They are an eldrely couple and dont really go anywhere except up town to the store and to springfield to see their racers, so they dont really drive by where my clinic is located. Neither horse is trailered off the property, the vet is always called to come to us because we dont have a trailer.

I was wondering about the panacur as well im glad you said something. We havent seen that much success lately in it with dogs at the animal shelter which lead me to really wonder if it was really even working on the horses. I know the dogs have built a resistance to it. I had been using it because my vet had reccommended it. What wormer would you reccommend replacing it with?

as much as i would love to get a fecal done right now,I really dont have the extra money to spare to get a fecal done right now, i seriously would be choosing to either do a fecal or guess and worm the horse right now. Worming the horse is winning. i have to watch my P's and Q's really closely every since my unexpected accident. Dreamer WILL get one this spring, i dont really see it hurting him that much to wait until spring for it.

[Ryle]

As I said, it sounds like you are probably in a fairly low reinfection risk situation and the winter is the lowest reinfection rates for the cold areas in the country (here in Texas our reinfection rates are high now and low in the summer). So you may very well not need to deworm in the winter months. Proably, I would go with moxidectin/praziquantel now and not worry about deworming again for at least 3 months---it's going to depend on when your weather starts warming up again. Then in the spring get a fecal egg count done and see what kind of load your horse has. Call your vet and see if that sounds like a decent plan to him.