the post

[mtnmollie]

Hay who moved me edit button?
I can only learn things once... :cowboy:

[Sundays Man]

Please tell the story. I want to hear. As far as I know, we haven't lost 1st amendment rights, at least totally yet.

[mtnmollie]

ok- stupid question- is the first Ammendment the freedom of speech?

* My government class is rusty.*

[Sundays Man]

Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, Yes. I am pretty rusty on that stuff too. :)

[palomino]

wow, Im lost LOL

[mtnmollie]

The man Who Dissappered.

Once upon a time, there was a man who lived in southern Idaho with his family.

He ran a trap line in the Bitterroot mtns.

The one day he never- ever came home.

They say a white big- foot got him...

but i never believed them.

[WashingtonBoy]

:huh:

:confused:

[twofingers]

mollie, oddly enough I believe I know what you are talking about please tell the wolf story.

[Sundays Man]

It's everywhere and not surprising. 2Tim 3:12 tells us "Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution". We don't have the persecution that some other countries have, but still, we founded our country on one of the "premises" of freedom of religion, but you're only free if you're not Christian it seems like.

Diane and I like to call Mesianic Jews "Completed Jews". They are doing a great work.

[mtnmollie]

Gene told me to go clean my room.

Can you believe that?

Sigh- I guess I better go keep him happy. :cowboy:

[mtnmollie]

Anybody read Range magizine?

The CharlesTown apple story is told by a friend of my family. We are from C/T mom and dad and our family before them were raised there. We were in CharlesTown when the Yankees came and took our home. But that was many - many years ago.

[Sundays Man]

Sounds interesting.

[TheBadLands]

:huh:

[mtnmollie]

:huh:

:confused:

I agree with that. huh, confused- me too. :cowboy:

[twofingers]

I subscribe to Range. I highly recommend it to the forum members.
so molly are you actually talking about the hague case? A very sobering picture of what "our" fish and game people and their pathetic urban environmental friends will do.

[mtnmollie]

I dont remember the hague case 2.

[mtnmollie]

So the Ramies are family friends from way back.
They raised apples ever since i was small- and before that probablly.

But they dont raise apples any more.

Now they raise corn.

[Buckpoco]

Boy, I agree with Sunday'sMan. It seems like anything anybody does is OK, unless you are a Christian. They also pick the most "wacked out " people to put on TV and parade as your typical Christian. Beats me that love, compassion, caring, treating women as humans, and a belief in the next life, (what Christians believe), is something bad???

[mtnmollie]

yep. :cowboy:

[mtnmollie]

wow, Im lost LOL

Did you miss what was said before the edit button changed the world?

I wish I could edit all my sins... :innocent:

[mtnmollie]

Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, Yes. I am pretty rusty on that stuff too. :)

THE NAKED TRUTH
Strip-search law suspended
Pro-life protesters shackled, jailed for holding signs

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Posted: October 20, 2008
10:51 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily


The arrest of Angela Swagler and other pro-life protesters is the subject of a multiple-county civil rights lawsuit filed against police and other officials

A county in Maryland has agreed to halt enforcement of a sign ordinance cited when members of a team of pro-life protesters were arrested, shackled and strip-searched while expressing their opposition to abortion.

According to a statement from the Alliance Defense Fund, a consent agreement has been reached that will halt enforcement of the ordinance while its constitutionality is argued in federal court.

"It is unconstitutional to require small groups of Christians to obtain permits to exercise their First Amendment rights in a public area like the one involved in this case," ADF Senior Counsel Kevin Theriot said. "Police used this permit requirement as part of their justification for the unacceptable treatment of our clients, who simply desired to share their pro-life message."

The enforcement suspension was outlined in an agreement approved by a federal judge hearing the dispute. It prohibits Harford County from requiring protesters with hand-held signs to get a permit first.

In August, a dozen police officers handcuffed peaceful participants in Defend Life's "Face the Truth" Pro-Life Tour and then denied them a reason for their arrests.

Three young female participants – including teenagers – were subjected to two rounds of strip searches after being charged with loitering, disorderly conduct and failure to obey a lawful order, charges which later were dropped.

WND reported at the time that the confrontation developed in Bel Air, Md., where attorney Daniel Cox, who is allied with the ADF, serves as local counsel.

"The truth of the matter is that our clients were heckled, arrested, imprisoned, shackled, and strip-searched twice for exercising their First Amendment rights," he said.

The protesters' lawsuit accuses Bel Air, seven police officials and Harford County of violating the rights of 18 pro-life advocates who were arrested when they held signs and shared their message along a public street.

The lawsuit explained police first ordered the pro-lifers off of county property, and later when they complied and moved to city property, swooped down on them in seven marked police cars, shackled and jailed them, and performed the strip searches.

"This incident paints an ugly picture of the state of religious freedom and free speech in American today," Theriot said at the time. "The state shouldn't prosecute Christians for expressing their beliefs on important social issues, nor deny them their constitutional rights."

The lawsuit by the pro-life protesters, some of whom also are represented by the Thomas More Society of Chicago and the American Catholic Lawyers Association, named as defendants the town and the county, as well as officers Terrence Sheridan, Donald Ravadge, Mark Zulauf and Armand Dupre and three state patrol troopers.

Among the arrested are Angela Swagler, 18, Elizabeth Walsh, 20, and Joan Walsh, 18.

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78570

[mtnmollie]

In August, a dozen police officers handcuffed peaceful participants in Defend Life's "Face the Truth" Pro-Life Tour and then denied them a reason for their arrests.

Three young female participants – including teenagers – were subjected to two rounds of strip searches after being charged with loitering, disorderly conduct and failure to obey a lawful order, charges which later were dropped.

This does not happen in America right?

It only happens in Russia, right?

My friend Sara went to Russia and she was strip searched.
The people have no rights in Russia