Anybody have a Bigfoot story?

[mtnmollie]

-mtnmollie

Bigfoot goes on that shelf. He is unbelieveable.

If you tell too many bigfoot stories- you loose yer credibality.
Espically on the i- net.

Jackie B said:
I don't believe that bigfoot exists, so I'll admit that when I first read your story it made me wonder. But, who really knows? Perhaps bigfoot exists in some other dimension that we don't understand and pops into our world occasionally. But I'm confident that bigfoot isn't dwelling in a forest anywhere in the sense that we think of creatures "living".

[mtnmollie]

I forgot to say this spinoff had been moved to the doghouse. :cowboy:


Jackie B said;

Sorry. I'm confusing things a bit. I meant your post in the "I wonder" thread about bigfoot visiting and taking some dog food. I was just saying that reading this gave me pause (just momentarily) about the rest of the story because you described how bigfoot visited your camp.

I was just saying that I understand what you mean when you say that you have to be careful talking about bigfoot.

And I definitely don't doubt anything you're saying about the Lolo trail. You've got tons of gorgeous pictures. But....I might be more inclined to think that a raccoon or some other critter visited your campsite.

[mtnmollie]

Two Catahoula dogs in the horse trailer.

One dog barked once. Just once and silence?

To find out what a Catahoula is- go to the dog house room.

A Catahoula is tougher than a grizzly bear....
My Catahoula kills skunks when he is on a chain...without being sprayed.

And then at Howard Camp- thump thump thump-

When I got to Idaho I was aghast at all the bigfoot tales.phooey.

There aint no bigfoot. I'm from the big city- and i know everything- hehe ?

[mtnmollie]

Jackie B

I know a catahoula well. Fantastic dogs.

Have you ever seen a grizzly bear where you live? There must be at least a few in Northern Idaho.

[mtnmollie]

We have a few in Central Idaho. Gene spent his entire carrer trying to protect them- but they are not politically correct. Clearcuts and grizzly dont mix. Bears might stop logging.

Someone published Gene's grizzly reserch.
I might be able to mail you a copy.

[mtnmollie]

Jackie B

I found some information regarding his grizzly research online. Amazing thing that Internet. Your husband is quite a man. How did you meet him if you don't mind me asking?

What does your husband think of bigfoot? I got the impression from the bit that I read about his grizzly sightings that his reputation was one of utmost care and honesty. The he would not have reported a grizzly sighting or sign if there was any doubt. So, how about bigfoot?

I haven't ever traveled through the area where you live, but I was a bit surprised that grizzly bears were completely extirpated from the Bitterroots (or thought to be) in the first place. They have been in Yellowstone and the Tetons all along. Is there not a suitable corridor between there and the Bitterroot mountains?

The article I was reading said that the state officially downplayed grizzly sightings, but your husband took them seriously all along. I can see the Michigan DNR doubting mountain lions because the closest known populations are a heck of a long ways away and over the Great Lakes! But it doesn't seem like grizzlies in a wilderness in Idaho should be that controversial. But like I said, I don't understand the geography, either.

None of Gene's sitings were 'credibale " evidence- the Fish and Game wanted a dead grizzly as proof. We got a dead grizz recently. They said he wondered in from northern Idaho. The local who sells auto supplies said " We all (locals) know we have grizzlys. There is no excuse for that hunter shooting a grizzly bear."

[mtnmollie]

[quote=JackieB;7644]I found some information regarding his grizzly research online. Amazing thing that Internet. Your husband is quite a man. How did you meet him if you don't mind me asking? "

Through the mail. I am a mail order bride. Left Colorado to marry a stranger.
We foght like cats and dogs- two leaders.

"What does your husband think of bigfoot?"

He was full of bigfoot stories- scared the caap out of me.
What do you do with bigfoot?

This cop said - Gene I want you to help me with this bigfoot story my son told me. I don't know how to process it. So Gene helped him process it. LOL>

"I got the impression from the bit that I read about his grizzly sightings that his reputation was one of utmost care and honesty."

He hasa reputation of always getting his man. Dont poach in Gene's territory.

" The he would not have reported a grizzly sighting or sign if there was any doubt. So, how about bigfoot?"

Gene has a bigfoot file - I think. Document every hunters siting. They called him on grizzlies and bigfoot. I live in a poaching town- Gene goes in the gunshop- and they all give him honer. I dont understand poachers loving the law.

"I haven't ever traveled through the area where you live, but I was a bit surprised that grizzly bears were completely extirpated from the Bitterroots (or thought to be) in the first place. ( Timber runs the game we paly in Idaho. )They have been in Yellowstone and the Tetons all along. Idaho grizzly is a smaller more timid bear. Is there not a suitable corridor between there and the Bitterroot mountains?

Reports of Feds dumping grizzly in the bitterroots by those locals who were there.
But we have an Idaho grizzly.

"The article I was reading said that the state officially downplayed grizzly sightings, but your husband took them seriously all along."

yes. The difference between office and field management. The Lolo trail has this problem too - office management.


"I can see the Michigan DNR doubting mountain lions because the closest known populations are a heck of a long ways away and over the Great Lakes! But it doesn't seem like grizzlies in a wilderness in Idaho should be that controversial. But like I said, I don't understand the geography, either."

Why did you log the Lolo Trail Dwane - from FS.
Because timber ran the Forest in those days.

[mtnmollie]

The day I heard Bigfoot Scream.

No one wants to hear that old story- besides there is no Bigfoot. :cowboy:

[rocknK]

It was a dark & stormy night...:cowboy:
I know a fella thats got size 15 feet, does that qualify???

[mtnmollie]

he he ! He sounds like a big foot. Can he scream too?

[rocknK]

Never heard him scream, but he can yell rather loudly!:cowboy:

[rums_mom]

Well I want to hear your big foot story............

[Remali]

Yes, me too.....we want to hear the big foot story.....

[mtnmollie]

Once upon a time, Gene and Mollie went Moose hunting. In Idaho you get one moose per lifetime. Gene got his Moose- so this time it was my hunt. WE camp 4 hours up Warm Springs Creek in the wilderness. WE rode for sevearl days scouting for Moose. We camped in a wet meadow that moosie's love. Gene got to shoot his moose on the way in to camp- but not me. I had to hunt for mine.

Carrying a rifle was a pain in the butt- so I left mine in camp. Oh yes - I was a gung ho hunter. LOL>

[Gypsy Rose]

Just popped on this thread- can hardly wait to hear the rest of the bigfoot story!

[mtnmollie]

Johnny and the mule.

Oh well- before I tell you about Johnny and the mule, I have to tell you about Johnny. Before I tell you about Johnny - I must tell you about Kiy. Each one leads to the other. And then we have to go back to Virginia.

It all started at the chronicle of the horse. They wanted me to write them a story about an incorrigable horse. So I went home and looked up that word in the dictionary. Then I went looking for an impossible horse, but I found three, Mac, Boone, and Kiy. Kiy was the toughest of them all. He was a Keiger Mustang from Oregon.

I could never have trained Boone without what Kiy had taught me. When I fell in love with Boone- he became Boonie- and he went to a 4- H home with a full money back guarenttee for 6 months. They kept him- so I guess they loved him too.

Kiy was a challenge. Kiy was a wonder. Kiy was everything a horse is multiplied about 6 times. We did 4 years of ground school. The first time I got on him I found out what a round pen is for. Off we went like he blasted out a cannon-headed for the trees. Enough room for him- but not me- and my leg is gunna come off as we pass the trees at moch 10 but I get him turned and manage to fall off. Whew.

So we put him in the round pen and Gene is gunna lead him but Gene can't read colts; which is very impoortant for survival. Kiy takes 3 steps and he can handle that. But 4 and he is flooded- and then he explodes bucking. He is gunna fall over backwards because a fighting Kiger will win or die- and I know it and Gene knows it too. We have cut off small trees in this round pen like spears. I just know today I am gunna die.

to be continued ...

[Gypsy Rose]

This is pretty neat stuff! I'm going to keep checking back, he,he!

[mtnmollie]

Glad you are enjoying it. :cowboy:

[mtnmollie]

....what happened? Where was I? I managed to fall off.

So I call an advertised cowboy horse trainer in the paper. Surely a cowboy would ride Kiy- they ride bulls dont they? I cant ride that horse, I might get hurt- says he.

I understand says I - who do you recommend?

I called Johnny.

I have a colt that wants to buck and fall over backwards - says I. .

He doesnt sound too bad to me, says Johnny.
Here is Johnny and Kiy on the first ride.

They ran quite a bit before he stopped. No buck as long as there is go forward.

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=65&pictureid=1405

[mtnmollie]

Oh so now- finally we are ready for Johnny and the mule at Warm Springs camp.

* to be continued. * :cowboy:

[Gypsy Rose]

Bridleless? Wow! That's neat- also a little crazy on a first ride!

[mtnmollie]

Johnny thought so too- he quit doing that- maybe after Kiy. he he :cowboy:

[Gypsy Rose]

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[mtnmollie]

Johnny said here's what he learned from Kiy- never ride another Kieger. he he

So Gene and I are out joy riding- when I should be moose hunting; when, here comes a loose mule. If there had not been this loose mule- then I wouldn't have visited the outfitter camp. An outfitter is a guy who gets paid to take people to the woods; (Idaho term for backcountry. I forgot the Colorado term, but its sweeter.)

Now I know when the mule is comming I might have one fast chance to catch him. If he stops to greet my mare I am surely lucky, or I might be able to grab his lead as he passes by. I get off my horse.

to be continued...

[Gypsy Rose]

He,he! Can hardly wait to see what happens!

[mtnmollie]

"He,he! Can hardly wait to see what happens! "

These comments make story telling so much fun! :cowboy:

[mtnmollie]

so where was I ?

Oh the mule is comming at a trot- stops brefily to say hi to my mare, JD and mule is off again. But I had grabbed mules trailing lead rope. What do you do with a lost mule in 2million or more aceres of wilderness? He could of come from any camp, during hunting season from any state.

Well I'll just give him to Johnny. So I went to Johnny's camp, leading the wayward mule. Johnny was working for a mean outfitter. I sees the cook and says- is Johnny here? I brought him a mule, as a gift.

* Later the cook asked Johnny these questions-
1) How did Mollie catch the mule?
2) How did Mollie find our camp?
3) How did Molie know you were here?

Only she did not know my name so I was "that girl".

Johnny did not know the answer to any of her questions. But she answered mine.
(The mule belonged to the mean outfitter at Johnnys camp.)

to be continued...

[All4Grace]

Bigfoot episode on Desitnation truth..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GGiAz9H040

[Gypsy Rose]

So how DID you know where to find the camp?

[mtnmollie]

A good Game Warden knows everything. :cowboy:

The Idaho backcountry grapevine told me Johnny was working for this outfitter this particular season.

[Gypsy Rose]

I'll be waiting for more of the story tomorrow!

[mtnmollie]

So I tells the cook, "I brought Johnny a loose mule."

"By the way," says I , "we heard some screaming when we was packing up to come in here."

She cut me off- I could not even tell my story, " Oh, that was the Selway Screamer. "
Like everybody knows that... LOL.

"Do you mean bigfoot?" says I.

"Yes."

I left camp pondering. I'm from the city. There ain't no bigfoot.

So we go to the gas station at the Lochsa Lodge with our moose- and I ask who has been here a while? So I ask him...

to be continued ...

[mtnmollie]

We were packing up to go moose hunting, and I heard this scream, I thought it was a burnt out druggie. But then it was at the top of the mountain, and then just across the river- and no human can travel that far or scream that loud that long.

At the Packer camp they told me it was the Selway Screamer.

" There is no Selway Screamer-and there is no bigfoot. "

Thats what I thought says I and I walked away wise; and normal too.

But - he says- let me tell you about the screaming I heard at Elk Summit in the middle of the night...

But - really there ain't no bigfoot. Everyone knows that. :cowboy:

There is only bigfoot stories- and the back woods of Idaho is full of them.

[mtnmollie]

And so dear UncleTom, I know all about bigfoot stories. And I told my camping tale from a Nez Perce point of view- they know bigfoot stories too.

...and someone ate the dog food- and it wasnt a racoon.

That's all I know.

Perhaps bigfoot is like the tommy knockers who play tricks on the miners?
My college history professor knocked over his slide show and mumbled-

look look at what the tommy knockers did. LOL. :cowboy:

[JackieB]

Yikes! The screaming would be pretty creepy.

Do you know if the bigfoot stories pre-date arrival of whites? Might be hard to know on that since the Nez Perce wouldn't have written anything down. That would be interesting to know whether or not they believed in bigfoot before we got there. Probably, I would guess.

[mtnmollie]

According to some Nez Perce, yes. All Nez Perce do not believe the same, any more than all of us believe the same.

[Gypsy Rose]

Too bad that so little history has been preserved. I've always wondered if bigfoot really existed.

[mtnmollie]

There ain't no bigfoot! :cowboy:

Once upon a time a ploiceman said to Gene, my son just told me a story, and I need help processing it. My son says he saw a bigfoot cross the highway. Now I want to believe my son but... bigfoot?

Lets go to the sene of the "siteing" the policeman said - and look for evidence.

No says the grown boy; for fear often follows bigfoot.

So Dad gets him in the car- every body armed, even the kids.
They pass the siteing place at 70MPH (or was it 50mph?) it was theres-

But Papa turns around and comes back.
Um I think they found a track- but can't remember.

There ain't no bigfoot.
Just bigfoot stories. :cowboy:

He said he saw- his face,
for bigfoot crossed the road, and then looked back.

[mtnmollie]

Bigfoot and the preacher man-

to be continued...

[Gypsy Rose]

Means there's no proof one way or another.

More stories coming? Good!

[mtnmollie]

Once upon a time, a preacher man went camping with outfitter Bat Masterson. They got to talking about bigfoot and preacher man wanted to see one. Bat said, "We will put you in a tree stand in Spook Canyon, and you will for sure see bigfoot- but he will scare the cappie out of you when you see him. Preacher man said, I ain't afraid of nothing- not man nor beast. So they took him to Spook Canyon. I dont know where that is, LOL. But I do know where Bat's main camp is.

to be continued... :cowboy:

[Gypsy Rose]

This could get interesting...

[Ariesgrl131]

lol funny thread

[mtnmollie]

Once upon a time, a preacher man went camping with outfitter Bat Masterson. They got to talking about bigfoot and preacher man wanted to see one. Bat said, "We will put you in a tree stand in Spook Canyon, and you will for sure see bigfoot- but he will scare the cappie out of you when you see him. Preacher man said, I ain't afraid of nothing- not man nor beast. So they took him to Spook Canyon. I dont know where that is, LOL. But I do know where Bat's main camp is.

to be continued... :cowboy:

Gene tells me he knows where Spook Canyon is. He is the game warden- he knows everything, LOL.

So the Preacher man sees bigfoot. Yah never-ever want to see bigfoot- espically since he does not exist. Preacher man comes back to Bat's main camp- and he will not walk from tent A to tent B without an escort. Preacher man is skeert.

So dont never- ever go a looking for a bigfoot.

[mtnmollie]

The snag that moved. Once upon a time there was a snag that moved. Well - not really snags can't move. A snag is a tall dead tree.

[mtnmollie]

lol funny thread

Thanks- he he he.

He sounds likw this- Eeeee- awgh!
Only different.

[Gypsy Rose]

If a snag moved, I'd be outta there pronto!

[JackieB]

lol funny thread

Hilarious, except for the fact that she's not joking (gulp). :eek:

Even though I'm a doubter, I have to admit that if I was camping in this area, everything I heard during the night would cause me to pause just a little longer. :)

[mtnmollie]

If a snag moved, I'd be outta there pronto!

Thats what the mule said- LOL> :cowboy:

[mtnmollie]

Hilarious, except for the fact that she's not joking (gulp). :eek:



Oh Dear Uncle Tom- EVERYBODY knows there ain't no bigfoot- only bigfoot stories.


:cowboy:

( ...but he took our dog food once whe we were camped near Bat's main base camp...)

Gene said a bear did it... :rolleyes:
...it twere'nt no bear.

[Gypsy Rose]

Then what was it....?

[mtnmollie]

You tell me. He opened the back of our locked camper shell without breaking any thing, ( not even the lock) got out a bag of dogfood - and spilled it on the ground and shut the door.

It wasn't no bigfoot- everybody knows bigfoot is just a myth.

Maybe I forgot to lock the door before I left? And maybe it was a bear?

[Gypsy Rose]

Except you would have heard or seen something, you would think...

[mtnmollie]

Not when the pick up is parked at the trailhead and we are gone camping. :cowboy:

[JackieB]

Not when the pick up is parked at the trailhead and we are gone camping. :cowboy:

Oh, you weren't even there when it happened? And your truck was parked at the trailhead? Well that explains it. It was a locksmith who broke in, silly. That's why the lock wasn't broken. Geez, get a clue, Mollie. :p

[mtnmollie]

Yes Jackie B, you got it figured out.

Or a lock - picking theif who loves to dump dog food on the ground. LOL.
And then leave all the other goodies in the PU truck. :cowboy:

Makes perfect sence to me. :)

[mtnmollie]

So we go to Bat Masterson's camp- really that' s his name.

So his wrangler is leading the mules to the creek for water, and there is a big snag just down stream on the other bank. The mules bolt and run back to camp.

The wrangler goes back to camp, gathers the mules again, and goes to water;

...but the snag is gone.

I am almost out of bigfoot stories- but I remember the fish one.
Perhaps you are tired of bigfoot?

[Gypsy Rose]

Not tired of bigfoot stories- tell more, please?

[mtnmollie]

ok- I'll get back to you. :cowboy:

[Gypsy Rose]

Good- I like bigfoot stories.

[mtnmollie]

One upon a time a Nez Perce person went camping. (Now everyone knows about bigfoot; for you are in the presence of "the people"- the Nee Me Poo- who are as old as time.)
And besides- any one who knows the woods of central Idaho knows about bigfoot...

Bigfoot was in camp- and he knew she had fish.
(They always know when you have salmon- and if you dont give them some- they tear yer camp up.)

So she put out a fish offering.

Either you dont take salmon to central Idaho- or you share it,

or your camp gets tore up... :cowboy:

And thats a fact.

The clever bear up Warm Springs...
comming next-

[Gypsy Rose]

I feed the critters, no one tears up the feed room- same thing.

[mtnmollie]

The clever bear up Warm Springs...

We dont go up Warm Springs Creek very often, but that's where we went Moose hunting. The outfitter at the trail forks told us about the bear who tore up his camp. This bear not only ripped a hole in the side if his expensive tent, but it got in his coolar.

Took a ham, out of his coolar which was tied high in the air on a rope between two trees; without breaking any eggs. He was a very clever little bear. Or he wasnt a bear at all- because no bear could do what this bear did.

When in doubt- in Central Idaho- always blame the bear. :cowboy:

[Gypsy Rose]

He,he! A bear's paws would have been too big- that's for sure- he would have left a mess!

[mtnmollie]

Well- if it was not a bear, then what was it?

[Gypsy Rose]

Why bigfoot, of course!:eek:

[mtnmollie]

Jackie B said:
I don't believe that bigfoot exists,

But of course- Jackie B.

Everyone knows there ain't no bigfoot;
only bigfoot stories. :cowboy:


...but that poor ole bear who died because of
what bigfoot had done.

[mtnmollie]

Bigfoot is sczrry. The one up Warms Springs Creek spooked us for days and weeks as we went moose hunting.

But the bigfoot at our camp in 2008 with the Nez Perce was warm and friendly- and like a watchman who protected our camp from wolves.

My dogs growel at wolves- but not at bigfoot.

That's probablly because there ain't no bigfoot.

[Gypsy Rose]

Did the horses ever sense bigfoot?

[mtnmollie]

Well- they did whe he smelled like a dead man. That's one of Gene's funny stories;
because we all know- there ain't no bigfoot. :cowboy:

[Gypsy Rose]

So bigfoot can be anything?

[mtnmollie]

So bigfoot can be anything?

He looked like the man in the brown suit that climbed the mountain at Weitas Butte; straight up with no rest.

He smelled like the dead body on Gold Creek, or was it Musselshell Creek?
Gene went out with the WW 2 vet who reported the dead man- but the smell was
just gone.

Or was it the dead elk smell? Gene went up Weitas Creek in May and the horse, Sandman- would not go past that something rotten smell. Finally he blasted past.

On his way back Gene stopped to look for the dead elk- but the smell was gone and
as Gene circled the hillside- there was no sign of death.

There was no sign- because there ain't no bigfoot- only bigfoot stories.

When Gene shot his moose we camped at the kill site and the horses grazed with their nose just beside the gut pile. Our horses dont booger from death.

[mtnmollie]

Bigfoot smells, but not always. Maybe he is like a skunk in some way? We drove up Highway 12 and at Wendover we both smelled bigfoot; like a skunk in the highway- but not a skunk. We were headed to Missoula for an April trail meeting.

Bigfoot screams. Gene heard his yell at 2 am on the ridge above Fish Lake in the late 1970's. We both heard him scream when we went moose hunting.

At Sherman Saddle this year with the Nez Perce we heard a noise. Betty from the Forest Service thought a tree fell- but no it was not that. I went to check the horses and they were just fine. Noise you hear and can't define.

At 2 am at Howard Camp, one Nez Perce heard him thumping on a tree. My dogs woke me from my bed.

Bigfoot likes dogfood and Salmon.

Gene saw a snag that moved on the trail to Paradise Meadows acroos the river from him. It was there- it did not look right- and it was gone.

Bigfoot leaves big piles of bigfoot scat.

Some days I know the wolves are on my place because I sight them, with my eyes. Other times I know they are here because of wolf scat. Tracks of wildlife are also a picture of their presence to the back woods country guy who knows how to read the land like the city people read a book.

What do you do with bigfoot?
Central Idaho is full of bigfoot stories, and when Gene became the Game Warden, people would give him a call. What did I see? What did I hear? What did I smell, as I wandered the last of the big wild in the lower 48 states.

Gene put all the bigfoot stories and siteings in a file , like any good Game Warden will.
And he filled my head with strange bigfoot stories that I did not know how to classify; when I got here.

I have been in the woods before,
and there ain't no bigfoot, is there ?

[Gypsy Rose]

If the horses don't scare from bad smells, they'd be no help in figuring it out, lol!