My turn at colic - It's over now... pony is fine :~)

[WashingtonBay]

I guess she's a Republican :p

My vet is in surgery, of course... Backup vet is on the way in an hour.

This seems like her other times... I found her laying down alone in the cold shade when the others were out in the sun, just didn't seem right.

Now I have her in the yard... offering her water and I've given her a half dose of oral banamine (per vets instruction)

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1865&stc=1&d=1232475850

[lovesfortune]

Sending good prayers your way! Hope both of our girls are alright.

[Annie&Dixie]

I hope she'll be ok!! Keep us updated...poor pony.

[Palogal]

How's she doing?

[cyb]

Here we go again, feel better soon unhappy pony.

[HaveFaith]

Hope everything works out OK. Glad you caught her early. That seems to help.

[WashingtonBay]

Lovesfortune, did you call your vet on yours?


Pony's just hanging in the yard. I'm busier than a one armed paper hanger trying to pay attention to her, make phone calls, take pictures, and of course... post here.

Pony's had a couple of these morning colics before. It froze last night and I didn't bother with hot water this morning, though I did give them hot mash. I'm just glad I noticed her laying where she was. She's out now commiserating with Bay over the fence.

[Arrow]

Oh boy, sending good thoughts!

[lovesfortune]

I'm headed out to check on her one more time to see if she's still acting wonky... if so, then I'll be calling. She was her old self when I was out a bit ago.

[HeartofSteel]

Awww poor Pony... feel better!

[Palogal]

That's good, I'm always happy to see "normal" ish behavior.

[Ryle]

I hope she gets over it quickly.
You said she's doing it in the mornings, maybe she needs a bit more shelter through the night?

[WashingtonBay]

Yeah - palo half the time with her I sit there and wonder if there's anything even wrong with her. It's really subtle, so subtle I wonder how many times I would just miss it.

But it was not normal for her to be where she was. I led her in by the mane, and she started like she was going to lay down again while I fumbled for a lead rope. Not normal.

[WashingtonBay]

I hope she gets over it quickly.
You said she's doing it in the mornings, maybe she needs a bit more shelter through the night?

They have free access to the barn all the time. It's been nice, really. I guess that's why I wasn't in full emergency mode with hauling hot water out.

But last night it got cold and froze... The only obvious common thread might be that it's nights when she didn't drink enough. The other time was in summer.

[Palogal]

It sounds like it was mild but could have turned into a bad deal if left unattended. Good catch!

[WashingtonBay]

Well, we'll see. She's dragging that lunge line around pacing the fenceline with Bay... when I went out to untangle her, she almost didn't want to be caught, so she may be feeling better already :p

[Palogal]

My vet says to make sure the horse is eating, drinking, pooping and peeing after a colic. after they've done all four, you're relatively safe.

[WashingtonBay]

Well, she hasn't done any of those... and since "trying not to be caught" isn't on your list... I guess I'll keep waiting.

She's just hanging with Bay...

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1866&stc=1&d=1232477911

[YAorNEIGH]

Best of luck, WB. It's a great thing that you pay attention to your horses' daily habits so you have a sense of when something is off...Can be a life saver!

[HoustonFarrier]

Throw her in a trailer, and find the bumpiest road you can!

Good luck, hope she gets things moving!

Steve

[Palogal]

You could lightly lunge her or work with her a little bit, that will loosen things up.

[pandorasmom]

Throw her in a trailer, and find the bumpiest road you can!

Good luck, hope she gets things moving!

Steve

I can only imagine..


WB I hope she gets better. I'm sending all good thoughts and prayers your way and for the pony. :)

[lovesfortune]

Well I'm back in from checking Booty. She was up and walking around, so I caught her (also didn't want to be caught) and walked her around the pasture for a bit. She needed a refresher on the lead anyways. She was normal. She even pooped for me while I was out there, which was normal, not hard at all. Still has normal gut sounds. Do you think I should still call the vet, WB, or just keep checking her?

[vicklynn]

Sure hope Pony is OK. I hate these threads, poor babies and their bad tummies.
Hope to hear some news soon.

I take City for a walk when he has gassy colic. If that dont work, Id trailer him. So far the long walks work. He gets a bit hyper and starts farting.

[carla]

What a cute pic of Pony and Bay hanging out.. I never realized just how "pony" Pony is! Too darn cute. :) I hope she's feeling all better now.

[WashingtonBay]

I tried a little lunging... could only get about three steps of trot, so she doesn't feel good, this is not a lazy pony ;)

So as long as she's not rolling, just walkin' the fenceline with Bay, I hate to force her to move... I think if someone forced me to move when my tummy hurt it would piss me off.

The trailer ride would be a good enough idea if I wasn't busy enough!

I gave her a little loose salt mineral, she loves that. It might make her drink.

[WashingtonBay]

Loves... sounds good on Booty... I guess I'd just keep an eye out... sometimes they just had a bad itch or a gas bubble and it passes and on with life! You just sometimes don't know till you spend a while staring at them.... guessing and second guessing...

[oursarge]

Hope Pony is OK. That pony is just too cute, only thinking good thoughts for her.

[lovesfortune]

Loves... sounds good on Booty... I guess I'd just keep an eye out... sometimes they just had a bad itch or a gas bubble and it passes and on with life! You just sometimes don't know till you spend a while staring at them.... guessing and second guessing...

Yeah, it makes me nervous since I've never dealt with it first hand before. I walked out to where she was laying down and there weren't any signs of rolling, so I guess that's a good thing too.

I will keep an eye on her. Now back to Pony... Hope she starts feeling better soon and the banamine helps out.

[Cat]

Hope Pony is ok. Keep us updated.

[WashingtonBay]

We're still waitin' for the vet...

But now she's grazin' on the grass... and not just half-heartedly, she's grazing with some enthusiasm.

So I think the banamine is making her feel better. - and I think the timing has been just about an hour.

We'll see how this goes...

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1867&stc=1&d=1232479565

[IrisGreen]

Aww, I hope pony feels better and gets back to her bad pony self.

Have you taken the blanket off her to see if her flanks are bloated or cramping? With Muffin I can tell because his flanks between his last rib and his hip gets bloated out or sucked in and if you watch you can see them cramp sometimes. I rub and massage him there to get the blood flowing, muscles moving and it will make them fart or help move stuff along. I also lift his tail and that gets them wanting to poop or fart.

[Equine_Woman]

I hope Pony and Booty both feel better soon!!!!!! Keep us posted!

[Palogal]

YEAH...grass leads to poop!

[WashingtonBay]

I just talked to the vet again and canceled him coming out for now. I think she's doing OK and may not need the full oil treatment.

She took two long drinks and didn't crash, seems a lot more perky, and trotted around on the lunge without much prodding.

Probably the banamine is making her feel better and hopefully the rest will pass. I'm just going to watch her, vet said he'd stop by later with a thermometer because he says I need to have one regardless ;)

[Vegashorselady]

Glad to hear things are looking better. I wish pony a full recovery!

[vicklynn]

Glad to hear things are perking up for her. Keep us posted.

[grandmadeb]

Glad she's feeling better at the moment and that she is drinking and eating. All good signs.

[JackieB]

Poor little pony! Get feeling better, sweetie.

[oursarge]

Hugs to pony. Hopefully she is really feeling better and will continue to when the Banamine wears off. She's such a cute pony. So many colics, very scary.

[Annie&Dixie]

Glad she's feeling better, I hope she continues to get better!

By the way, I love the picture play-by-play :D

[lovesfortune]

Glad she's perked up! Booty seems to be over her little issue as well. I went out and checked and she's moodly like normal! :)

[WashingtonBay]

Glad she's feeling better, I hope she continues to get better!

By the way, I love the picture play-by-play :D

It is my hope that none of my threads will ever need that graphic ;)

Just checked on her... took all their blankets off because it's finally above freezing around here... at least in the sun. :)

She's fine :)

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1869&stc=1&d=1232486675

[vicklynn]

Sure glad to hear she is fine. She looks good!!

[Palogal]

YEAH!!!:clap:

[WashingtonBay]

Thanks all for your support and encouragement and well-pony wishes :)

[Dakota Sunrise]

Yay! I'm glad to hear that Pony is feeling better! She's such a cute little girl.:)

[luckydoublesranch]

So glad to hear she's doing better! We have a mare here that every once in a while gets gas colic and we'll walk out and she'll be laying flat..like, FLAT flat, where you run to make sure she's still breathing! LOL! Everytime, we REALLY have to make her get up, she stretches, lets a BIG *fart* out, walks away. all the while looking at us like, "What?" ...UGH!!!

[Arrow]

:D

[WashingtonBay]

So glad to hear she's doing better! We have a mare here that every once in a while gets gas colic and we'll walk out and she'll be laying flat..like, FLAT flat, where you run to make sure she's still breathing! LOL! Everytime, we REALLY have to make her get up, she stretches, lets a BIG *fart* out, walks away. all the while looking at us like, "What?" ...UGH!!!

Well, around here it's quite common for them to lay down, out flat even, in fact, they all just did, and I wasn't concerned a bit. I went out to take a picture, but they got up. Rats.

So laying out in the sun, napping, together in the pasture at about this time of day, is not unusual or a concern... the weird thing was pony was by herself in the back forty, and she was laying in a strange choice of places... in the cold under the trees, instead of out with the others. That warranted checking out.

[luckydoublesranch]

Well, around here it's quite common for them to lay down, out flat even, in fact, they all just did, and I wasn't concerned a bit. I went out to take a picture, but they got up. Rats.

So laying out in the sun, napping, together in the pasture at about this time of day, is not unusual or a concern... the weird thing was pony was by herself in the back forty, and she was laying in a strange choice of places... in the cold under the trees, instead of out with the others. That warranted checking out.

LOL! Yes, it is VERY common for ours to lay out flat and sun themselves or take a nap almost daily..I should have been more descriptive...this is also a mare that does NOT lay down often and she was laying out flat, at very unusual times, in weird places, away from the herd...Back to the "chillaxing" and sunning themselves, we've had on a few occasions people stop by the house on a beautiful spring morning to let us know "Your horses are dead!!!" :eek: I'll go look out the window and see 6-7 of them out flat, legs stretched as happy as beans soakin' up the morning sun...(shakes head) Then of course I have to let the "helpful" person know, no they are fine...UGH!! LOL!

[zoel_222]

Glad she's doing better! I just saw this thread and I'm like "oh no! not the pony, too!" phew.

[WashingtonBay]

Yeah - thanks! :).. didn't mean to needlessly worry people with persnickety ponies. ;)

[PatriotsDreamer]

Im a little late but SUPER happy that pony is OK

[lisakaye]

Throw her in a trailer, and find the bumpiest road you can!

Good luck, hope she gets things moving!

Steve

That seems to always produce the effect !!!:p

[WashingtonBay]

Evening update, I'm not in a panic, but still concerned. She was much better this afternoon than she was at dinner. I only fed her about a 1/4 pound of her feed (ration balancer) in about 4 cups of hot water with salt, but she just seemed more off after it than before and she's not interested in hay.

I walked her around and lunged her a little and she trotted easily and doesn't seem too bad, but not 100% either. I decided it wouldn't hurt to give her another dose of banamine for the night.

The bummer about my setup is I don't know if she's pooped. She's in the paddock with the others, and I'm not able to really isolate her so I just don't know.

Anyhow, don't want to just worry everyone, but I'm conflicted about it still and keeping a close eye.

[Equine_Woman]

Yeah colic is a rough cookie to crack. The decision of when to feed again is a tough one. Hopefully she's just a bit ouchy still and will work it out by in the morning. The banamine will help.

[WashingtonBay]

Well, it was probably a mistake, but I was feeding the others, decided on a hot mash, and she was really eager for it. Seriously it was mostly water. But she just had an ugh look on her face after.

And now, she has access to hay, with the others, but she's not eating. Neither are they though now, all three are just standing around with sleepy bored looks on their faces, so it's dang hard to get a straight answer out of any of 'em.

[Palogal]

Evening update, I'm not in a panic, but still concerned. She was much better this afternoon than she was at dinner. I only fed her about a 1/4 pound of her feed (ration balancer) in about 4 cups of hot water with salt, but she just seemed more off after it than before and she's not interested in hay.

I walked her around and lunged her a little and she trotted easily and doesn't seem too bad, but not 100% either. I decided it wouldn't hurt to give her another dose of banamine for the night.

The bummer about my setup is I don't know if she's pooped. She's in the paddock with the others, and I'm not able to really isolate her so I just don't know.

Anyhow, don't want to just worry everyone, but I'm conflicted about it still and keeping a close eye.

Yeah, but given all the grass she ate earlier, if she hadn't pooped I'd think she'd be rolling around by now. I always give another dose of banimine after the symtoms subside just for discomfort.

[Palogal]

Well, it was probably a mistake, but I was feeding the others, decided on a hot mash, and she was really eager for it. Seriously it was mostly water. But she just had an ugh look on her face after.

And now, she has access to hay, with the others, but she's not eating. Neither are they though now, all three are just standing around with sleepy bored looks on their faces, so it's dang hard to get a straight answer out of any of 'em.

How do her gums look?

[Equine_Woman]

Lol. Sometimes I wish they could talk. Hang in there. I'm sure the Banamine will help her tonight.

[Dakota Sunrise]

Ahh, not again.:( Feel better soon, Pony!

[WashingtonBay]

Well, I hope so... Just came back from sitting with her awhile.... she's just standing there. Offered her a few warm water options... poured some hot in the trough, a little warm in her bucket inside. Turned us down. Cyn wanted some of that though....

[Gypsy Rose]

Yikes, WB! I just caught this thread! As I was reading, I was hoping Pony was perking up, only to read further and find she's not doing as well. Guess it's time for the Poop Patrol to get back in action!

[lovesfortune]

Uh oh. Just seeing this now. I hope that she is alright. Sending well wishes and prayers that by morning she's back to being her ornery self! :)

[WashingtonBay]

When I take her out and walk/trot her on the lunge, she's plenty perky. She just seems off in the barn and doesn't want to eat, but not giving me anything concrete to go on to tell me I'm not just imagining problems.

Maybe she doesn't feel good, maybe she's just not hungry or thirsty and would rather be left alone. I'm just conflicted as to whether I've wasted time when I should have had the vet out, and now it's late. She just doesn't seem ~that~ bad. If she was, I'd have called already.

Ponies fill me with doubt. :(

oh - remembered to take a picture... tried in the dark on the lunge but those didn't come out at all...

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1876&stc=1&d=1232513172

[Annie&Dixie]

Oh no, just saw the update. I really hope she'll be feeling better soon :(

At least she's perky on the lunge line...I'm sure with you close by and keeping an eye on her, she'll be just fine!

I'm sure you'll continue to keep us updated. I'm sending good-pony vibes! I've got a soft spot for those ponies ;)

[WashingtonBay]

Well, she was laying down when I went out to check... flat, and didn't get up till I was in there and haltered her.... so I'd say that's a definite sign she's worse.

Damn... I am kicking myself for canceling him this afternoon, and for waiting this late.

I've put in a call to the vet through his answering service. Hubby's walkin' her.

:doh:

[luckydoublesranch]

UGH!!! Dang it...:(...let us know when you can how this pans out...sending good vibes from here as well...

[Ryderd65]

We're saying prayers for your pony. Hope she's her rambunctious self again soon.

[Gypsy Rose]

Sending good vibes for Pony, WB! I'll have to head for bed pretty soon- but this thread will be the first thing I check in the morning.

[WashingtonBay]

Well, he's been and gone... He tubed her and oiled her, and took blood for some kind of testing if she's not better tomorrow. He said her vitals all sounded good, even a bit of gut sounds. She jumped around a bit at getting her temp taken, he said she must be fun to handle when she's not sick. :p

[Arrow]

Glad things are headed in the right direction.:)

[luckydoublesranch]

WHEW! Hopefully she makes a full recovery...I'll check back tomorrow for an update. :)

[WashingtonBay]

Thanks for bearin' with me guys :)

[Cat]

Drat - I just saw that she took a turn for the worse in the afternoon. I hope she is doing better soon!

[Gypsy Rose]

Glad the vet took the blood- it never hurts! Well, maybe Pony might think differently!

Hope she's feeling better this morning.

[JackieB]

Come on, Pony! Get well so that you can be all cranky again, sweetie! :)

[oursarge]

Oh Poor baby, she's so adorabe. I hope she is fine today. Only good thoughts.

[Peggy Sue]

How is she this morning?? How are gut sounds?? Vitals??

[WashingtonBay]

I think she's OK this morning! :)

I checked on her at midnight, and three or so... and she was fine then too.

I'm not feeding anyone grain this morning, but they have hay. I'm going to go give her another more thorough check after I have some coffee and wake up. :)

[vicklynn]

Hope when you go check on her that she is 100%. Keep us posted.

[cloedoll]

Wow, sorry I missed everything. I read all nine pages, though and am glad the pony seems to be doing good! Sending good vibes your way. =]

[WashingtonBay]

Well, mixed review I think.... she's quiet (the same) but not hungry... Chipper enough on the lunge, but not interested in her water, hay, or even salt (which she LOVES). So I gave her some more banamine and warm water and we'll see where we are at sunup, I'll be spending a good deal of time out there this morning cleaning stalls and getting a better feel for the state of the pony.

I just need it to get light out... And warming up a little wouldn't hurt.

[lovesfortune]

:( Hope that after spending some time out there, you can better gauge her attitude, etc. Any way you can tell her poo from the others now that she's been oiled? (honestly, I don't know, I'm asking)

[WashingtonBay]

Maybe loves... we'll see. It's probably too early to see oil poops yet, but they may start this morning if everything is moving along.

[lovesfortune]

Maybe loves... we'll see. It's probably too early to see oil poops yet, but they may start this morning if everything is moving along.

Ah. I see. Thanks. I know how it's hard to figure out who's is who's. I was lucky that Booty did it while I had her on the lead, otherwise I wouldn't have any idea.

Looking for a good update in a few hours then!

[WashingtonBay]

It's not easy to tell 'em apart. Hers aren't a lot smaller than the others or anything, usually.

Getting light here and I opened up the pasture. I had them all closed into the paddock so I could see them easily in the fog all night. She seems more interested in nibbling on the little bit of grass out there than she has been in hay (which is not at all). And it's probably better for her anyway. She has to move around more, at least.

[cloedoll]

And warming up a little wouldn't hurt.


I can relate to that. Grr.

I hope she starts doing better soon! We can't have thee pony sick. xD

[carla]

Aww, man! Last I checked I thought she was heading for better. Hope things are better now that it's light out and you can see clearly.. hopefully. :)

[IrisGreen]

Me too. Last time I checked she seemed better. But, I guess she's not through it yet. I hope she gives you a big ol runny oil mess this morning ;)

Maybe you shouldn't give her so much pain killer. Can't it hinder gut movement? I know a lot of pain killers also kill beneficial bacteria that help brake down waist and make is easy to move through the system. I would try to hold back the pain killers and see how she does with out them. If she gets fidgety and wants to roll just walk her and massage her flanks.

Give her a pro bio to replace the beneficial bacteria in her system.

That's what I do with Muffin. I don't give pain killers. I watch to see if he is cramping and massage him out, walk him tell the cramping is over. Give him a brake then start again when the cramping starts. That has always worked with him and I have a better idea of how bad he is cramping or if he has stopped. The pain killers just mask the symptoms so you don't know how they are really feeling or how bad they are cramping.

I would cut back on the pain killers to see how she is doing and if needed put her back on if she really needs them.

I hope the oil passes and she is ok. I just worry about not being able to really know her true condition because it's masked by pain killers. I sure hope she is doing better this morning.

[WashingtonBay]

Interesting ideas Iris, and I won't poo poo them.

I'm guessing and second guessing all my choices, and will till something works, but I tend to think the banamine again this morning was a good call, and I'm trying to spend as much time as I can out there with her so I can help best assess her and experiment with things I can try. I've been scratching her tail because she lifts it when I do. I'm waiting for her to walk off and fart at me... it's something she usually has mastered ;)

I'm going to go out and put her in the yard again here, so she's at least not so far out there when I come and go checking on her.

Bay says - Pony... I think mom wants somethin' to happen with your rear end...

[zoel_222]

I hope she'll be okay :(

[WashingtonBay]

I think she will be zoel... I don't think she's in any trouble she can't work out today, I really don't.

[oursarge]

I was hoping for real good news. Can you tell her we all love her even though Mommy says she's not always the best behaved little girl??? I think she's the cutest little buckaroo we all feel so bad she's hurting. Hugs to her.

[vicklynn]

I sure hope she is doing better than this morning. Pony needs to get past this slump.

[JetLagaside]

Prayes for a happy sassy pony being sent your way.

[HaveFaith]

Oh, no. I just got back from the vet and was surprised to find she still wasn't herself. Hope it works out SOON.

[IrisGreen]

I do the same thing with Muffin. I lift his tail and hold it up or tickle him back there and he lifts it and will "try" to fart or poo. He will even push when I'm holding his tail up and that has helped pass gas.

I sure hope she feels better today. It's good that she's moving around and nibbling at the grass. Try massaging her flanks. It really helped Muffin. Now he knows what I'm doing so if I go out there and am rubbing him down and checking him over he farts when I rub his flanks. lol He's like "I know what you want. ppfffftt", Thankx Muffin :rolleyes:. lol

It also helps you feel any hard areas that you can help rub and get moving or if its gas it will be hard but soft when shes relaxes and you can feel it's a pocket of gas. It sounds wacky but it does help. Plus, you can see just how tender they are if you feel a hard spot and they step away, you know that's a problem area that needs to be rubbed gently.

Again, I hope she start feeling better. I'm just trying to give you some ideas to try.. I hope the oil does the trick!

[cyb]

Well darn it, last time I checked into this thread she was doing better, I hope she's better soon.

[ImaBronsonBear]

Dang, hope she feels better soon!

[Equine_Woman]

Yes, I hope she is feeling better soon as well!! Poor girl!!! I wouldn't stop the Banamine personally. It's ended more than one colic episode I've been present at. But I have I.V. banamine, not oral. Not sure if there is any difference though. Hang in there!

[SedonaThunder]

Oh no! I haven't been on here in days (have been sick) and I logged on today to find this... poor pony! I sure hope she is feeling better by now.

On Iris' thoughts on the Banamine and slowing gut motility... I remember it being talked about when Lele coliced last June. Today, all I can find is this "Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as phenylbutazone ("bute") and banamine are associated with large intestinal impactions. NSAIDs are frequently used to ease colic discomfort due to their potent analgesic and anti-inflammatory effects. However, their effect on intestinal motility is controversial. Recently, the Comparative Gastroenterology Laboratory's researchers determined that NSAIDs decreased muscle contractions in one part of the intestine. Currently, they are investigating the effect of these compounds on other areas of the colon." I also found some other stuff talking about NSAID's slowing the production of prostglandins (sp?) and that affecting the mucous that coats the intestines and stomach and thus giving more of a chance for ulcers to develop.

When Lele coliced my vet didn't use Banamine because of the "possible side effects" and used Buscopan instead. This confused me though because it is an antispasmadic. He said it helps with the pain by stopping the muscle spasms... so I asked about the movement that is supposed to be happening in there and he said the Buscopan only works on the "smooth muscles" versus the muscles involved in gut motility.

Anyway... enough of the "clinical talk"... prayers coming for Pony from a proud poop patrol member!:)

[carla]

But Sedona-- GI muscle is smooth muscle.. unless I'm seriously forgetting.. :confused: Maybe he meant it would relax the skeletal muscles, which a horse would likely tighten in response to the pain? Those would be under the horse's control, not the smooth muscle.

Just checking my thought..

[SedonaThunder]

But Sedona-- GI muscle is smooth muscle.. unless I'm seriously forgetting.. :confused: Maybe he meant it would relax the skeletal muscles, which a horse would likely tighten in response to the pain? Those would be under the horse's control, not the smooth muscle.

Just checking my thought..
Well don't ask me - I'm the one that thought an antispasm drug sounded strange to begin with!:huh: I was hoping you medical people could explain it.;) Quite honestly... I was much less worried about the risk of ulcers than I was with slowing the peristalsis (gut motility)... which I thought was sort of a wave like spasm in the digestive tract. It took THREE days for Lele to get better so I'm still not convinced it was a good thing.

[WashingtonBay]

Well, I understand some don't like the use of many modern medicines, but I guess my feeling is, if they're in so much pain that they're writhing and cramping and not wanting to get up, they're not helping to move the process along, they're not wanting to walk and move, they're not wanting to drink and get themselves hydrated again, because the pain is in the way.

Pony is, again, fine this afternoon. She was in the yard all morning and while she didn't poop in the yard, I do see evidence of oil around her butt. I saw that when I was trying to get a thermometer in her, which I utterly failed to do. I can't hold her head and her butt at the same time and after about 10 minutes of circling around with her (I'm telling you, that girl can Scooot!) I gave up.

Vet wanted a temp when he called for followup, but I am afraid I can't give him one till hubby gets home to help hold her head.

Vet wants to run the blood sample he took when he was here. He said the appearance of oil at the other end would signal that maybe something else is the cause... What, I don't know.

Anyway, while in the yard she drank a good bit out of the bucket, she ate some of her hay, and she started looking a lot more chipper. So much so that she started running around and not wanting to be caught. It's not safe for her to be running around the yard, there's too much crap to get in trouble with, so at the moment she's back out to pasture. If I'd just walked on scene I'd be saying "what sick pony?". "Can't catch me! :p" The brat. ;)

[WashingtonBay]

Yes, I hope she is feeling better soon as well!! Poor girl!!! I wouldn't stop the Banamine personally. It's ended more than one colic episode I've been present at. But I have I.V. banamine, not oral. Not sure if there is any difference though. Hang in there!

The major difference between oral and IV banamine is only the speed at which it reaches the system. Oral is slower... might take a couple hours, more if the gut isn't functioning well.

[lovesfortune]

Well she definitely LOOKS like she's feeling better! I hope this time it's for good and she stays this way through the night. :)

[HaveFaith]

Hope it doesn't come back this time. She looks perky to me!:D

[TheRedHayflinger]

I keep some homeopathic remedies around for colic, as well as my bottle of FluMeglumine(banamine)...I am a equine acupressurist as well, and will do treatments on my horses if they are colicking to help ease pain...but sometimes...a good ol' dose of banamine will help!

-Spascupreel
-Aconite
-BELL Drops
I've had excellent luck with these. The Aconite helps with the "fear" aspect and panicking some horses will do as well as help with shock...spascupreel is for muscle spasms in smooth and striated muscles...I take it myself when I get cramps and it is WONDERFUL! BELL Drops....not sure exactly what they do...an older lady up the road from me gave me some...she said you can't find it in the states anymore and her family has been using it for generations. She said it is an old homoeopathic remedy...I've found one website to buy it from, but I'm on my laptop and the link is saved on my desktop.

Anyway..those are three great things for those of you who like a more natural approach, and don't wish to use banamine.

[Miracle Whip]

Personally, I think Pony is just craving some attention and wants you to play TAG with her...its boring with the other horses and if she acts sick she can hang with you in the yard and worry you silly with all of those dangerous things...

I mean, this is Pony, right?? Anyway, I have seen a lot of horses lay down lately. Its like the CLipper deep freeze is over and everyone wants to take a nap.

I hope she starts to feel better soon so you can leave her out all the time with the big horses...

[WashingtonBay]

Heh... Believe me MW the "She's fakin'" possibility has crossed my mind!

She just trotted in ahead of the others thinking I might be out there with dinner, so I hope she's looking up.

[Diane of Buck's Hollow]

Well don't ask me - I'm the one that thought an antispasm drug sounded strange to begin with!:huh: I was hoping you medical people could explain it.;) Quite honestly... I was much less worried about the risk of ulcers than I was with slowing the peristalsis (gut motility)... which I thought was sort of a wave like spasm in the digestive tract. It took THREE days for Lele to get better so I'm still not convinced it was a good thing.


The first time Buck coliced was awful!! From Friday afternoon until Sunday. The first thing was Banamine..Friday..Saturday (2 doses). The vet did all the Fluids and laxitives and finally IV's thru the night on Saturday. I remember seeing Buck spasm and it looked soooo very painful. I agree with WB and believe when they are hurting..they need something to help that pain.


WB I sure hope Pony is getting better!!! I really hate Colic.

[Gypsy Rose]

Sounds like Pony's feeling a little better. I hope she continues to improve.

[lovesfortune]

How did she do with dinner? Was she a little more excited? Or haven't you fed yet? I'm not sure on the time difference.

[WashingtonBay]

So far so good with pony. :) Fed her hay, and just some salt in her bucket, and she was EAGER for it.

[lovesfortune]

So far so good with pony. :) Fed her hay, and just some salt in her bucket, and she was EAGER for it.


That's all good to hear! :)

[carla]

Yay, Pony! Keep the good news coming!

[oursarge]

I hope she's over being sick. She sounds like a comical little thing even if she is a brat sometimes. Hope she's OK, extra hugs to her. They sure can worry us.

[Gypsy Rose]

Glad to hear Pony's getting back to her old self again.

[cheval]

Sorry I missed all of this... been offline for the last couple of days. I sure hope everything is going okay!!!

[WashingtonBay]

I think it's lookin' up Cheval... thanks :) Just running out there now to check again. ~fingers crossed~

[cheval]

Hopin' for lots of poopin'.

[WashingtonBay]

She's looking good. :)

[zoel_222]

yay! I'm glad she's doing better. With all these good vibes and prayers from everyone I'm sure she'll pull through it :)

[Annie&Dixie]

I'm glad it's looking better!! I hope it continues! :D

[WashingtonBay]

Pony is VERY chipper tonight. She's past it.

It's funny... I've been watching this pony for the last two days, all the while not seeing her do anything really overt... nothing anyone else would even notice. The vet included I think. He was taking my word for it she was off... Just odd things, things that weren't quite right. Wrong mood, misplaced expression. So subtle that I sit and wonder, how often do I have days where I toss their food over with a glance, go on with whatever I'm doing, and not give a second thought to noticing things like this. But there's an indefinable quality about a horse that you know well, something that so far, has rung a little alarm bell the moment I saw them, that says "Look. There's a problem." I don't know about you guys, but I spend a lot of times wondering, the three times this pony has done this, if there is anything really wrong. But you know what? I know the moment there isn't.

And she's fine now. :)

[Country Girl 43]

OH WB...I'm sorry I missed this. I sure hope the pony is going to be OK. What's her heart rate at now?

I'm sure you know your pony better than anyone, but keep an eye on her till you know she is in the clear for sure. I "thought" Ladybird was getting better, but it was the "calm before the storm."

Sending good thoughts and prayers your way.

[JackieB]

Glad she's doing well.

[WashingtonBay]

Thanks JackieB.... and Country Girl.... I think we cross posted at about the same time.

She's fine.

[Annie&Dixie]

Great news. It's funny how well you can know your animals. :)

[Country Girl 43]

I'm glad she's looking better. There's just too many colics this past month.

[WashingtonBay]

~sigh~ Indeed. Too many.

[Annie&Dixie]

There have been. Way too many. We also had a mare at my barn who coliced, they rushed her to the vet and had a big surgery done. So far, she's recovering well but it was expensive...luckily, the owner had the money to spare.

Makes ya worry about everybody else.

[WashingtonBay]

That's why it freaks us out when it happens. Is this gonna be a mild one or a bad one? You just don't know till it's over.

[Annie&Dixie]

Yup, definitely. You just have to hope for the best and be there for them. And it certainly helps when you know them like the back of your hand! Lucky for the pony (and Bay and Cyn), they've got such a caring family...forum family included ;)

[grandmadeb]

So glad she is doing better and is getting back to her own self. Good thing that you know her so well and that you can recognize the signs. I always opt for prompt treatment when those signs are seen in Al.

[oursarge]

Hope she's still fine today. I know when you know your animals you can tell when something is off even if it's just a little thing that isn't just quite right. Some people think I'm crazy but I tell them I am with these guys al the time, I know what is normal, they all have a routine and when they don't do what they always do or do something different then there is something wrong and that's when I call the vet. Unfortunately there was nothing my vet could do when I noticed my old boy was off even though he was here in 8 minutes nothing could be done, I'm so happy your outcome has been better, the little cutie.

[Vacker Hast]

I'm so glad to see Pony is doing good now and I hope she continues to get back to normal without a relapse. I have been watching this thread with way too much anxiety each time I check it. I have been sending Prayers and well wishes.

You know your girl and maybe it's an instinct that you pick up on when something isn't right ... I know I'm that way. We all have those instincts but people forget to listen to them or second guess them ... I don't and I'm sure Pony is happy that you didn't just pass those feelings off too.

No more colic, please!!! It has just been too heartbreaking with those that have been lost lately.

Warmly, Stacy

[JetLagaside]

So glad to hear she's feeling better!

[~*Domino*~]

Great to hear that she is doing better! :)

[lovesfortune]

Glad to see Pony is all in the clear. Now can we all get a nasty Pony picture so we can see too? :)

[WashingtonBay]

It's so foggy here I can't see much beyond my gate, but I assure you, she's out there feeling fine, in the fog, somewhere.

And I'll take a pic a little later - maybe the sun will come out and inspire her to kick it up a bit. :)

[lovesfortune]

Okay, I'll check back. It was foggy here this morning too.

[HaveFaith]

:banana:

I've been waiting for a chance to us this!

[cloedoll]

Yay! I'm glad she's doing good, WBay. =] Wanna give her a hug for me? xD

[Gypsy Rose]

Glad to hear that Pony's fine!

[JackieB]

Glad you're back to pinning your ears at everyone, Pony!

[TheRedHayflinger]

glad to hear is is A-okay! :D

[grandmadeb]

And they say kids cause gray hair!!! Glad she is better.

[farmers_wife]

Glad to hear that the pony is doing better. It is so scary.

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Glad she is ok. I know I'm pretty late to this thread. Just curoius but why is there so many coloic cases during this time of year? It makes me pretty edgy and worry some for my boys :(

[WashingtonBay]

Thanks.... she's still fine :)

I think most winter colics are attributed to the horses not drinking enough. Water is too cold or frozen, very little grass (that would have a higher moisture content), and hay that is dry. Hay takes a lot of water to digest, and if the horse is dehydrated, they become impacted.

The funny thing about this is, we'd just come out of a period when it was much much colder. For two weeks we'd had snow and severe temps, and we'd gone into emergency mode, carting out hot water to add to the troughs several times a day, soupy hot mashes with their grain, lots of vigilance about how much they were drinking. Then it cleared up and got milder for awhile, we just had one night that it froze, I didn't predict that or take it seriously, and she colicked that next morning. Doesn't matter how many times they've been through it just fine before... one night when they don't for whatever reason drink enough, and they can crash trying to digest breakfast.

At least, that's what I think it was for pony.

[MyMia]

I'm glad Pony is okay!

It's kind of nice coming late to a worrisome topic like this--I was able to avoid all the anxiety over whether she'd be okay or not. I'm sorry I wasn't here earlier to send good wishes, though! I'm sending them now, albeit late.

[WashingtonBay]

Thanks Mia! Appreciate it!

[zoel_222]

Yay! I'm glad Pony is okay :)

[vicklynn]

Good to here Pony is doing fine.