The challenge....

[Palogal]

Ok, so at the barn there are lots of different training styles. Someone uses clicker, I use CA, another person uses CC, someone uses Parelli and of course none of us even entertain the though of using one of the others...So there was a challenge.

Four note cards: Parelli, CA, Clicker, CC

They were turned over and the four of us drew a card.....

[Flair]

Lemme guess ... you got the Parelli card?

[Palogal]

Why yes, yes I did. I'm going to do it though. I haven't done Parelli in years but I think if you do any method and you do it right it will work. I also think that in order to use a certain method you have to think and not do the things that are ridiculous. So, I'm going to Parelli one of my mares.

ETA: I'll be borrowing the DVD's since I haven't seen them in a while and buying a "training stick" off of ebay...but I'm not getting orange.

[oursarge]

I know you will do fine. Sort of funny you got Parelli though! From what I have seen if a person knows what they are doing and they do Parelli they have success. The lady who trained my horse is great and she uses nothing but Parelli right now. She's a wonder, she has Parelli down and the horses respond to it and it's like magic to watch, actually way better than watching a DVD. When I need a refresher about my horse I get the video out that we took of her training and leave the couple Parelli things I have in the box. She had experience before she ever heard of the man or the techniques and that's the difference.

The people who have issues are people [Like Me] who have no clue what they are doing and try to take an untrained horse and learn from DVDs. Some might have success but from what I've seen from my friend and the people who have spent $1,500 on DVDs and are terrified of their horses [To be fair it's not only Parelli it's other trainers too where the person who just tried DVDs with no other experience] after trying their ways. They didn't understand what they were being taught, they don't understand the horse's mind. It doesn't work for them and they end up spending a ton of money and have a horse that is confused and crazy. They then bring that crazy horse to my friend, she uses her ways with a little of this or that thrown in, fixes and makes a horse I can ride when she's done. If I can ride it then it's good since I'm not a very good rider. I'm sure if she followed a DVD she'd do fine with it because she knows what she's doing to begin with so I have every faith that you will do perfectly fine and will maybe have some fun.

My boys love the games with the balls but our mare hates the balls, asking her to play with them is like asking her to do some major thing!!!!!!

Good Luck!

[gaited07]

ETA: I'll be borrowing the DVD's since I haven't seen them in a while and buying a "training stick" off of ebay...but I'm not getting orange.


Get a purple one and call it "the Egg Plant Stick" LOL

[AppyLover]

Get a purple one and call it "the Egg Plant Stick" LOL

heehee.

I am sure you will do fine palo. and you can find "training" sticks anywhere and find them cheep. Keep us posted on the turn out of everything, it will be interesting to see how everyone take on this challenge after it happens.

[Palogal]

At least it wasn't clicker training...I think that would be hard.

I was hoping for CC since he and CA are so similar. Oh well, guess I better start on my friendly game when I can get out of bed again.

[Palogal]

get a purple one and call it "the egg plant stick" lol

yes!

Training Stick (http://cgi.ebay.com/Handy-stick-string-fits-Clinton-Anderson-Parelli_W0QQitemZ180318043032QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item180318043032&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)

These are my options. I do CA's stuff with a short whip but the string has more to do with it in Parelli stuff.

[Suzi]

You all should have made the challege as this- a skill none of the horses has and you each pull a card with the training method. This way everyone can try a different method to get the same result and see which works better and faster.

[Palogal]

We're all doing ground work in our "new" method.

[vicklynn]

At least it wasn't clicker training...I think that would be hard.

I was hoping for CC since he and CA are so similar. Oh well, guess I better start on my friendly game when I can get out of bed again.
Ya of those, Chris or Clinton would of been my choice.

And um, I have a purple stick, so now Im gonna be thinking Egg Plants when I use it...lol

Some feed/tack stores carry them, and they usually sell for under 15bucks.

What would you call a lime green one, thats what Dixie has??....Apple stick???

[Palogal]

The Granny Smith Stick!

[Palogal]

I know you will do fine. Sort of funny you got Parelli though! From what I have seen if a person knows what they are doing and they do Parelli they have success. The lady who trained my horse is great and she uses nothing but Parelli right now. She's a wonder, she has Parelli down and the horses respond to it and it's like magic to watch, actually way better than watching a DVD. When I need a refresher about my horse I get the video out that we took of her training and leave the couple Parelli things I have in the box. She had experience before she ever heard of the man or the techniques and that's the difference.

The people who have issues are people [Like Me] who have no clue what they are doing and try to take an untrained horse and learn from DVDs. Some might have success but from what I've seen from my friend and the people who have spent $1,500 on DVDs and are terrified of their horses [To be fair it's not only Parelli it's other trainers too where the person who just tried DVDs with no other experience] after trying their ways. They didn't understand what they were being taught, they don't understand the horse's mind. It doesn't work for them and they end up spending a ton of money and have a horse that is confused and crazy. They then bring that crazy horse to my friend, she uses her ways with a little of this or that thrown in, fixes and makes a horse I can ride when she's done. If I can ride it then it's good since I'm not a very good rider. I'm sure if she followed a DVD she'd do fine with it because she knows what she's doing to begin with so I have every faith that you will do perfectly fine and will maybe have some fun.

My boys love the games with the balls but our mare hates the balls, asking her to play with them is like asking her to do some major thing!!!!!!

Good Luck!


Oh the balls...I'd forgotten about those. I don't know how long we're doing this for so I guess I'll start with the 7 games and the at liberty stuff and go from there.
Thanks for the encouragement.

[Palogal]

heehee.

I am sure you will do fine palo. and you can find "training" sticks anywhere and find them cheep. Keep us posted on the turn out of everything, it will be interesting to see how everyone take on this challenge after it happens.


I found them on ebay for 27.00 and another side for 18.00 with the string. I guess until it gets here I'll use the lunge whip I use otherwise. I checked youtube for the 7 games and I remember all of those and how to do those.

I don't know many folks that do Parelli for 18 bucks!

[YAorNEIGH]

Hilarious. This is going to be interesting.

[MyHorseBiggs]

I've heard about Parelli. What is it though?

[Palogal]

Parelli is just another method of ground work. It's famous for it's cute titles and expensive equipment.

[TacheteTreasures]

Get a purple one and call it "the Egg Plant Stick" LOL

Haha the point of calling it a carrot stick is because it uses a balance of reward and correction.
There is nothing rewarding about eggplant.

[AppyLover]

I don't know many folks that do Parelli for 18 bucks!

Me. I am cheep and not ashamed to admit it.:)

[YAorNEIGH]

Haha the point of calling it a carrot stick is because it uses a balance of reward and correction.
There is nothing rewarding about eggplant.

LOL! Yeah, but with eggplant there's more comic value! :hysterical:

[Palogal]

Haha the point of calling it a carrot stick is because it uses a balance of reward and correction.
There is nothing rewarding about eggplant.


True, So I think I'll get the black licorice stick! Or the banana?

[Palogal]

I added a poll!

[shewasmyshadow]

I would pick GREEN because all the horses that I have known seem to be able to see green the easiest. :) I figure that is pretty important that they be able to see and respond, right?

[PoniesRock101]

good luck :)

[cloedoll]

This is gonna be amusing! Hehe, I voted for black....back in black :D

[Palogal]

Yeah I think so too. If only I wasn't stuck in bed....

[TacheteTreasures]

I said blueberry. Who doesnt love blueberries?

[cloedoll]

I said blueberry. Who doesnt love blueberries?

I hate blueberries. =P

[shewasmyshadow]

I said blueberry. Who doesnt love blueberries?

Great in muffins. :D Otherwise, :puke:

[Flair]

Why yes, yes I did. I'm going to do it though. I haven't done Parelli in years but I think if you do any method and you do it right it will work. I also think that in order to use a certain method you have to think and not do the things that are ridiculous. So, I'm going to Parelli one of my mares.

ETA: I'll be borrowing the DVD's since I haven't seen them in a while and buying a "training stick" off of ebay...but I'm not getting orange.

Sounds fun.

I've got a 'training stick' ... I got it off eBay, and it kinda looks like a carrot stick, but it was only $25 with shipping and the little string. I call it the Jicama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%ADcama) Stick. ;) I mainly use it when I'm handwalking my greedy Haflinger so he doesn't think he can barge past me to try and graze or yank me off to the side to graze. I use it for some of the TTeam stuff too.

[gaited07]

Wait, what about a red and white one and call it a "peppermint stick"

Too cute guys!

Have fun with it and looking forward to updates and wait, PICTURES (especially of that ??? stick)

[oursarge]

I voted for a purple stick just 'cuz I like purple. I have a purple lunge whip and one of my horses has purple brushes. Most of the other stuff like halters etc. are black because I think they all look nice in black but I figured we can have a purple whip because it's cute!!!! I said my halters are black then look at my Sarge's photo and he's wearing an orange halter. They have orange break away halters for hunting season so hopefully anyone with a gun can see they aren't deer. Sarge is colored like a deer, Rompy is darker but still I want to have something orange on them. I need to get the orange tape I heard Dakota talk about to tie it in their tails. I worry about them so much.

I found some cheaper things on e-bay and there is a site that I am not sure of the name of [Some help huh?!]but they have things that aren't that expensive. They have the rope halters cheaper than Parelli and the quality is as good. I like the quality of the Parelli ones so I was worried when I ordered from this place but when it came it's just as good. I've seen some rope halters that are too thick and made from rough rope, I like the thinner softer ones.

My first trainer has totally switched to Parelli, she loves it. She has invited me to her play days but I haven't gone, I figure if I am going to be out of the house I should be riding my own horse and not playing with someone else's. She buys most of her supplies from e-bay and not Parelli. Her big toy balls come from Toys are Us, says they are very good quality and can take abuse from the horses. I gave my guys a regular exercise ball to play with, they had it destroyed in a day! I have to try one from Toys are Us. The horses at our barn mostly love the balls, one plays soccer, it's so cute, he'll kick the ball in a straight line from one end of the arena to the other, he has such a good time. My girl, NO WAY, I have to make her kick it then she acts like she touched something disgusting!!!! She is such a queen. I have a little tiarra charm for her halter, if I could get her to wear a tiarra I'd buy one for her!

Good luck and have fun. Will someone be taking videos? They'd be fun to see.

[Palogal]

I'm partial to the pink, purple and black at this point, but could go any direction. I'm interested to see how the poll turns out.

[Vacker Hast]

I know i'm supposed to be encouraging lol haaaaaaaa but; Palogal, have you found some new happy pills we don't know about?!?! You seem to be embracing Parelli with a newly found enthusiasm!!!

Has anybody seen the real Palogal?

I hope you do very well with this challenge but I bet we will discover that you cheated and used more of the CA methods when nobody was looking lol!!! Tempting HUH? :innocent:

[Palogal]

I figure if I'm any good, I should be able to train a horse with any method. It's just ground work - not throwing a foal over a jump or the group hug kumbaya that comes in later levels. The basics of the 7 games are a decent faoundation - I prefer CA's way, but they're not bad. It's the later stuff that I have problems with.

[Palogal]

I know i'm supposed to be encouraging lol haaaaaaaa but; Palogal, have you found some new happy pills we don't know about?!?! You seem to be embracing Parelli with a newly found enthusiasm!!!

Has anybody seen the real Palogal?

:cowboy: << ----- like my new hat?

I hope you do very well with this challenge but I bet we will discover that you cheated and used more of the CA methods when nobody was looking lol!!! Tempting HUH? :innocent:

Nah, what would be the point of that? They do overlap somewhat though.

[IrisGreen]

I agree with Vacker, There has to be some happy pills we don't know about!! lol

This is too funny! I think it's a great idea and I'm glad you got the Parrelli card. At least it's something new and a challenge to do.

I just don't expect you putting up ads and taking in horses for Parrelli training after this. lol hahahah......Well, you never know!? They do shell out a lot of money to get there horses Savvy....they forget about getting them selves savvy...Just get the horse to do the games! lol

I voted for the Pink stick. I figure if your going to give Parrelli a try why not give it a go in PINK! :) I personally have the White stick. I got it off ebay and it's a very nice stick with the string and popper on the end for half the price of the name brand stick.

I can't wait to see pictures of you doing the 7 games! hahahah with a PINK stick!!! Hahahah This is going to be great! I also liked the idea of the red and white "pepermint" stick!! I about spit out my coffee!!

[Palogal]

No happy pills...just on a mission to prove a point. The method is not the point, it's the common sense and experience in the trainer behind it. It's not cute words, fancy sticks and all that crap that Parelli claims you HAVE to have. It's not about horsenalities or any of that other tree-hugger nonsense either, it's about training the horse to be safe and dependable. You cannot pigieon hole horses into a trainer in a box. DVD's won't do it either. With the Parelli method and any other for that matter, there is a requirement of common horse sense. Those that take on these methods without that thinking they can just "play"...well I call them "training clients".

[Palogal]

This is too funny! I think it's a great idea and I'm glad you got the Parrelli card. At least it's something new and a challenge to do.



Actually it's something old to try again. I learned Parelli right around 2002 and did it for a while until I saw CA's method and realized that beyond the basics, Parelli is stupid IMO. I'm not a Parelli hater who has never tried.

[Vacker Hast]

I am now a true believer of KARMA and I will probably be the next victim!!!

I voted for the green stick just in case somebody gets video we can see that stick bright and being shaken vigorously lol!!!

Palo, love the new hat .... maybe that will be where you keep your Parelli notes since we know you don't know it by heart ... I can't help it, I'm cracking up here and I still know I have mine coming (karma that is).

Good luck and get video. Well you'll have to prove to us what color stick you went with since there is a poll regarding it. Get a pic of the stick!!!

[Palogal]

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Palo, love the new hat .... maybe that will be where you keep your Parelli notes since we know you don't know it by heart ...


I remember a lot more than I thought I would. A little Youtube and it's like I never missed a beat.

[IrisGreen]

I missed what horse you were going to teach Parrelli? I guess that horse is going to be worth lots of money when your done..Huh? :p

[Palogal]

I think it will be Lady my 05 filly. She's had most of the last year off due to an injury (and being a 3 year old) and I have to start her over to truly be fair to her. She's a "keeper" though, not for sale.

[mtnmollie]

This has got to be teh funniest Parelli thread i ever read. he he he . :)

[mtnmollie]

Wait, what about a red and white one and call it a "peppermint stick"

Too cute guys!



I think I wil put some red on my white. stick. he he :cowboy:

[mtnmollie]

Actually it's something old to try again. I learned Parelli right around 2002 and did it for a while until I saw CA's method and realized that beyond the basics, Parelli is stupid IMO. I'm not a Parelli hater who has never tried.

I became P hater after I bought the 7 games and LindaP called me and said- did it work? Did it work? I could do the 7 games blindfolded at night naked with no lead rope before i bought the friggin 7 games. LOL. :p

Den I became a boni-fied P hater. :p:p:p

He ripped me off... but I soon sold the 7games to some dummie.

P told me I could ride Kiy ifn I just did da 7 games. Seven what?

[Palogal]

I became P hater after I bought the 7 games and LindaP called me and said- did it work? Did it work? I could do the 7 games blindfolded at night naked with no lead rope before i bought the friggin 7 games. LOL. :p



There's an image!;)

[Palogal]

This has got to be teh funniest Parelli thread i ever read. he he he . :)

I thought it would amuse all of you :)

[Palogal]

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj162/palogal/Paint%20Horses/lady07.jpg
Here's the student pictured here as a two year old. Lady 2005 Solid Paint-bred Palomino (that's the new hip term for breeding stock palomino)

Update: I can't start today, it's raining so I'm hoping to get started this weekend. I have to deliver Joey to her leaser and then hopefully I can get started. I'm also ordering my stick this weekend, I guess I'll have to be friendly with my lunge whip until it comes in.

[Palogal]

I ORDERED TWO!

Wanna know what colors???? :innocent:

[mtnmollie]

I got three white ones for $5.00 each. How about you?

What color? :cowboy:

[mtnmollie]

Here's the student pictured here as a two year old. Lady 2005 Solid Paint-bred Palomino.

wow! Purdey pony.

[Palogal]

I'll take a picture when they get here. I could "request" colors but I don't know if I will actually get the ones I wanted. It's a crap shoot with ebay.

[mtnmollie]

Mine are 3 different lengths, a short one, medium, and long; kinda like the three bears but different.

I had to have them at the clinic, but have not used them once.
Shameful waste. :eek:

[Palogal]

Mine are 3 different lengths, a short one, medium, and long; kinda like the three bears but different.

I had to have them at the clinic, but have not used them once.
Shameful waste. :eek:


I love training toys! I have all kinds of stuff I rarely use. All my lesson kids go look in the Dover catalog and get me random training stuff. :)

[mtnmollie]

At my clinic we had a real cowboy, who gathered real cows off the forest among the wolves, and rode real colts real good.

He was not some perfectly persuavisive person, who people fell in and out of love with.

he he .

Am I getting the parelli suff yet? Am I am I am I ? :)

[Palogal]

LOL, I have to say it's still hard to buy into Parelli when you read about how proper riding position inhibits movement and all of that....the ground work I can actually get behind somewhat minus the frilly crap but the riding position they accept as correct, I just can't get behind that. I was reminded of that when I read ...um..a blog today about horses. ;)

[mtnmollie]

Ridin position? The dressage folks hate me, ( leaning forward? )
and my leg goes forward too in my bronc saddle so perhaps Parelli is just the thing fer me after all?

Yer a perfectly persuavisie person Palo. :)

Bait and snatch with " I hate Parelli " technique. he he . :cowboy:

[Palogal]

We did the friendly and porcupine game today. I'm happy with the friendly game but still not quite satisfied with the porcupine game - although the audience seems to think it was good.

[cheval]

You can get a stick outside and paint it orange. Voila - carrot stick.

[elleng]

Good luck with the training. I'm a purple girl so obviously voted for a purple stick.