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WashingtonBay
10-14-2008, 10:37 PM
(Repost - Originally posted last year on the other forum... reposting it here to add it to our archives here, and perhaps reach some who did not see it then! :)
Horsemanship 101 - Tying
I've been thinking of some things to post over the winter while I'm not riding much, and I thought a series of posts on improving 'horsemanship' might be good grist for the mill.
What is 'horsemanship'? Here's a good definition I found on the web: quote:
Horsemanship - Which Ship are You On?
What is horsemanship? In the show ring, horsemanship is described (such as by AQHA) as a class "to evaluate the rider's ability to execute, in concert with their horse, a set of maneuvers prescribed by the judge with precision and smoothness while exhibiting poise and confidence, and maintaining a balanced, functional, and fundamentally correct body position." The horse and rider should work in complete unison; there should be subtle aids and cues. This type of horsemanship involves showmanship and hopefully, sportsmanship. Today, show ring horsemanship is primarily for exhibition.
When talking about everyday horse training, horsemanship takes on a different emphasis. Although the goal is the same as far as working in unison and subtle aids and cues, showmanship does not come into play although it is always good to have pride in your work - so clean tack, a well groomed horse, and tidy attire is appropriate in your back yard just like the show ring.
And although one should always be a good sport, sportsmanship is not usually part of horsemanship training because there is no competition or exhibition. Training horsemanship can include ownership, stewardship, and workmanship. If you own the horse you are training, the quality of care you give your horse is part of horsemanship. If you keep your horse at home, your stewardship of your horse, your facilities, and your land is part of horsemanship. And if you care for your tack, groom your horse, your workmanship will be evident and is part of your horsemanship.
When we work with horses, if we want to be good horsemen and women, here are some things to keep in mind:
1. Be safe for your sake and the horse's.
2. Have the good of the horse at heart.
3. Know when to push, know when to quit.
4. Aim to have the horse be better when you quit than when you started so that next time you go to catch him, he will look forward to working with you.
5. Take time to master the basics.
6. Do simple things well before attempting more complex things.
7. If you find yourself in danger, frustrated, abusive, or plain just not having fun, STOP ! Get some good help or learn some techniques or a new mindset that will help.
Source: Horsemanship Definition by Cherry Hill (http://www.horsekeeping.com/horse_training/horsemanship.htm)
So horsemanship, in the bolded parts above, is the art of keeping and handling your horse well. Good horsemanship includes the condition of the grounds and stables; are they a mess or are they tidy and in good repair? Good horsemanship is how your horse and tack look... is your tack clean and well fitted? Are your buckles buckled and your snaps snapped? And have you looked for and prevented accidents by making sure your grooming and tying area is safe and free of hazards, and you've tied the horse safely? Are you just slopping along or have you made a good effort to do things correctly? What is correctly?
This thread is my chance to comment on a few things that have nagged at me sometimes when I've seen pictures posted on forums that show horses tied in an unsafe manner. I figured, rather than make enemies out of those who have posted such pictures, I'd go out with my trusty Bay and take my own "bad example" pictures.
This is primarily aimed (though anyone can participate!) at the new horse owners who may not have access to the kind of drill sergeant instructor I had when I was young. My trainer drilled and drilled and drilled on safety and 'doing things right' to avoid and prevent problems, and I'll be danged if the only time I ever had troubles, it was when I ignored her advice http://forum.horse.com/image/s4.gif. Good horsemanship is good habits. Good habits prevent accidents and preventable injuries and keep our horses happier and our vet bills down.
It's a participation thread, I'm really wanting you to find the answers.
Below is a picture I took of my Bay. I have intentionally made about six mistakes that are potentially unsafe (you may find others that I did not intend). Can you spot them? Tell me what's wrong with this picture! I'll come along later and post my answers and what I think is few better examples of how to tie a horse safely. Hopefully you will think this is fun. http://forum.horse.com/image/s2.gif
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=194&pictureid=1687
Chavhorse
10-14-2008, 10:59 PM
WB good post!
Well even my "cling on" not really horsey DH looked at the pic and said the hose is very unsafe he could trip.....so I think something is sticking:rolleyes:
My biggie is him being tied to the fence.....Bailer twine bailer twine bailer twine.....looped to the fence then tie to that then if he horse pulls back you get broken bailer twine not broken horse...The new owner of my old TB decided to tie him to a steel door....he pulled back pulled steel door off hinges and bolted with it....much damage to his legs and 2 months off work.....lets put it this way I wanted to buy him back stupid woman!
Ok vent over.....
So for me the biggies are the hose, tying to the fence, the mat as another uneven surface and that lurking shovel!
Of course you realise someone will see this and post somewhere else that WB doesn't know what she is doing!......You may even make the glory of snarky blog of the day:p:p
WashingtonBay
10-14-2008, 11:08 PM
Oh the snarky blog of the day can blow it out their box fan. :innocent:
You (and hubby) did good at finding many of the mistakes!
People can keep posting more mistakes they find, I'm going to post my answers and some better examples on how to tie safely and correctly tomorrow. :)
palomino
10-14-2008, 11:11 PM
Hose, tied to a flimsy gate, tied too long, shovel. Thats mostly what I see. cept cutie bay all fuzzy LOL
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 08:11 AM
Any more takers? There are a couple of safety concerns that have not been mentioned yet!
vicklynn
10-15-2008, 08:27 AM
I know you like to blanket, but isnt it a bit warm. Im thinking over heating is an issue here.
I agree with the shovel and the tie, bad tie bad. The hose and the mat, well, I have matts in my lean too, they dont cause a problem but for me, I have to straighten the darn heavy things. I ride on more uneven ground than that. Also the hose is not looped up, so not sure why that is an issue. I would not leave the hose out there though unattended, so if its ment that way, bad hose bad...lol
I just noticed something on the far side, on the ground under his belly. Thats no no.
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 08:31 AM
Good :) You got a couple more - The blanket wasn't intended as an issue, it was cold enough when I took the picture last winter to warrant it, but I do notice that it's not very straight on him and looks sloppy. ;) Anything is fair game.
Tatesgram
10-15-2008, 08:32 AM
Hose, shovel, flimsy fence, tied too long and I don't blanket, but is there something about the blanket? To my untrained eye it looks wrong.
Do we have to wait till tomorrow?
mustangluver
10-15-2008, 08:42 AM
#1 Shovel
#2 Hose
#3 Tied to a fence
#4 Jacket
#5 Knot is that a quick release??
#6 still thinking on this one.
(Repost - Originally posted last year on the other forum... reposting it here to add it to our archives here, and perhaps reach some who did not see it then! :)
Horsemanship 101 - Tying
I'll come along later and post my answers and what I think is few better examples of how to tie a horse safely. Hopefully you will think this is fun. http://forum.horse.com/image/s2.gif[/SIZE]
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http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=194&pictureid=1687
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 08:44 AM
Do we have to wait till tomorrow?
No... I posted this last night. I'll post my answers a little later today, when more people have been given a chance to play. :)
vicklynn
10-15-2008, 08:46 AM
#1 Shovel
#2 Hose
#3 Tied to a fence
#4 Jacket
#5 Knot is that a quick release??
#6 still thinking on this one.
That does look like a quick release, but for the horse. Looks backwards hu?
Gypsy Rose
10-15-2008, 09:30 AM
1.hose
2.mat
3.shovel
4.tied to fence
5.tied too long
6. quick release- bottom loop way too large- could get a foot in it. Also way too much slack in lead rope.
Vacker Hast
10-15-2008, 09:42 AM
All of the above but I will add Bay is tied too low.
Sincerely, Stacy
cloedoll
10-15-2008, 09:45 AM
Awe, I missed out on the fun! :(
Miracle Whip
10-15-2008, 09:47 AM
When Bay pulls back on the gate, the post is going to roll towards him and all heck is going to break loose. There is no latch on the gate, the horse's leadrope is holding the gate shut. Bay will start to chew on the rope and untie himself and the gate will move...on the other side of the gate there is also a bucket ATTACHED to the gate...horse is tied too loose and too low.
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 09:47 AM
No you didn't cloe! I haven't given the answers yet! :)
cloedoll
10-15-2008, 09:49 AM
Well, everyone guessed what I was going to guess, ha ha. Ya know, I might have a picture of Keidas tied up and it isn't the safest situation. I might have deleted it. If I find it, would you guys like another one to critique? It's a pretty un-safe tying situation from what I remember, so that's why I *might* have deleted it. :o
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 09:52 AM
Sure... After I post the "answer" (which I'll do in a few minutes now, I think it's all been covered) we can open it up for lots of people to post their tying set ups, good and bad, for people to evaluate and see what will work for them, and how they might make theirs safer.
cloedoll
10-15-2008, 09:54 AM
Sounds good!
*awaits answers* :D
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 10:16 AM
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=194&pictureid=1687
OK - Whether or not anyone else is going to play... Here's my list of hazards as I saw them when I set it up:
1 - Tied to gate(s). This one everyone got - too easy :) One should never tie to a gate or anything else that isn't firmly rooted in the ground. The same would be true for portable panels. One minor pull back and he'd pull both of those gates right off the hinges, or portable panels loose from their pins.
2. - Tied too low and long. He's got way too much line there. He's got enough line to get his head under the line, get a foot over the line if he was to paw, and he's got enough line to move around and find too much trouble.
The knot, as some posted about, is not a proper breakaway knot, and it was supposed to look like an improper knot. In reality, it isn't a knot at all, it's just rope looped around, but I didn't want to tie him hard to those gates even as an example (would not be good to have a wreck while trying to prove what not to do, would it?!) especially not while I'm scattering other hazards around him. So - bonus points for those who tried to decipher that knot. It's not a proper knot.
3. - The hose, and the mat both look like things that the horse could get tangled in or caught up in. By themselves they may not be enough to set the horse off, but if the horse has some kind of spook going already they may add to the panic and make the spook worse. - as an aside... if you step on the nozzle end of that hose right, it'll turn on and start spraying and snaking all over the place.
4. The shovel. It's sharp, it's easily messed with and knocked over by a bored horse. It just shouldn't be there. If he knocks it over and it ends up under him, it will cause a pull back.
5. The spray bottle on the ground. Yes, it's within range that it could get stepped on and potentially spook the horse.
6. Hot wire. Perhaps not easily seen, but that tape over the gate is hot. Horse reaches over the gate, horse gets shocked and ends up pulling back.
7. The highline, hanging down there from thin air. Could bump the horse's behind if he backs up.... spooking him.
So the perfect storm of events that would cause a wreck here... horse who has too much line reaches over and plays with the shovel and knocks it over. It falls under him in front with a clatter, so he pulls back, gets a foot hooked on the hose and steps on it, causing it to start spraying everywhere. Horse pulls gates off hinges and starts dragging them backwards, and a disaster has been set in motion that will not be easily stopped without a big vet bill and a terrorized horse.
Not intended but good point: The buckets on the other side of the fence. A potential attractive nuisance. In reality, they're water buckets, and they look empty... Good horsekeeping would call for filling them!
Here is my better tie setup, which might have been given away by the highline:
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=194&pictureid=1692
Highlines aren't the only way, but they work for me. The line is tied between two big trees. The shovel is out of range (almost... it could be even further, and it could be facing the other way so the sharp edges aren't exposed!) the bottle has been picked up and put on its shelf. The mat may still seem strange, but I use it to have a nice clean surface when cleaning Bay's feet or when the farrier comes, and by itself it's something he's accustomed to. He's able to stand square on the mat and not as likely to end up with a foot caught under it as he was when it was behind him. And the hose is gone. The tie is short enough that he can't get hooked under it, and it has a quick release snap on it.
Here is another example, of Bay tied safely to a tree (minus the dog, loose dogs really have no business around a tied horse)...
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=194&pictureid=1693
Here (below) is Bay tied to a tree on trail, during a rest stop. Our mare is at the hitching post, which was not really long enough to tie two horses to without the possibility for mischief, so I chose the tree. Again, they're tied high and short, and we've removed the bridles from the horses so there is less gear on their face for them to try to itch and rub and risk getting caught on something. Bay's lead is wrapped once around the tree, which helps keep it from sliding down. Note. Horses who even might not get along well should not be tied this close together. Make sure a tied horse can't be bullied and kicked by another horse.
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=194&pictureid=1694
And finally, here is Bay tied to our trailer. Again high and short. I don't know what it is about horse trailers, but it seems they almost design the latches and hinges to get horses caught up in. Make sure the horse is tied so that he cannot get his line hooked and caught on anything on the trailer.
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=194&pictureid=1695
And that's it! Now if you want, continue to critique these tying examples, and perhaps post your own tie setups at home, both good and bad, for discussion and evaluation on how to make them as safe as they can be. :) Thanks for playing everyone!
Gypsy Rose
10-15-2008, 11:21 AM
Caught one already! Open tack area door! A breeze could swing it shut, spooking the horses (unless the door is tied back, of course.)
Even then, I would never do this in a crowded area, except temporarily while I got what I needed out.
In the years I was showing Gypsy, at least once a year a horse would get loose and start running through the grounds. A big open door like that, tied or not, could become a hazard.
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 11:48 AM
Good point about the tack door, though it is 'locked' open. Good to think about with swinging doors.
We tie at the trailhead all the time while we tack up or visit. I don't leave them unattended. Yes, horses do get loose at trailheads sometimes, and go visiting through the group. I remember one coming right at Bay and I as we were leading. I grabbed him, and was happy to see her owner coming, as I now had ahold of two energetic horses who wanted very much to meet! I was ready to drop her (the loose horse, not Bay) if I needed to, rather than be in the middle of a horse fight.
vicklynn
10-15-2008, 08:43 PM
I know you dont like loose dogs around horses, but not all dogs and horses are bad together.
It is up to the owner to understand their dogs and horses. I let mine roam together. The dogs are very respectful of the horses, and the horses are not affraid of my dogs.
My horses arent much affraid of to many things, so I guess Im blessed in that area.
The tie line in the first pic, ya know what, you got me good on that one. In the pic, I thought it was hanging off that building, and the hot wire, wow, I thought it was across the other fence...if there is one..lol
Guess I need to put my glasses on.
I really like your highline in the paddock, and the reasoning behind the mat.
Hope to see it some day, hint hint...lol
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 08:50 PM
Oh yeah - you're coming this way soon! As it gets closer we'll have to work out the details of how we can get a visit in.
Some of the things were easier to see than others :) Good to point out even if they weren't apparent.
And my dogs do mingle with the horses... not usually with the horses loose, because Bay's been known to go after 'em. But they're tolerant of each other. The dogs have learned to stay clear because I've told them to, not because the horses are all that worried about it.
Dakota Sunrise
10-15-2008, 09:10 PM
I'm sure you've all ready posted the answers, but I haven't looked at them yet so I'm going to point out a few things that I see.:)
*tied to fence/gait
*tied too long
*hose
*shovel
*I can't really tell what kind of knot that is.. if it's a quick release I'm cool with that.:cool: But other kinds of knots make me nervous because if jerked on they can just get tighter and tighter, until it's impossible to get loose.
*I'm not sure if this is one or not, but the mat or whatever it is laying there looks sort of out of place to me. I have made my horses stand on cardboard for certain reasons (like when I was trying on Beauty's easboots and didn't want them to get dirty), but it just doesn't look like it should be there. I might just be paranoid though.:p
*I see someting under his belly, not sure what it is. It could be nothing. When I'm grooming my horses there's often brushes sitting on top of the hitching post, Cowboy Magic detangeler placed in a handy position on horse's back if I'm combing out his/her mane,:innocent:, his/her boots and a hoof pick laying anywhere that's in reach, which usually means the ground if I'm kneeling down and getting their boots on- stuff like that. So that may be nothing. I just don't like to leave anything sharp or potentially dangerous if stepped on on the ground.:)
I bet I have more, have to go back and look at the pic again, lol. :D
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 09:13 PM
I think you did pretty well!
Unfortunately, with any tie except the highline, there's no way to prevent a horse who is pulling back from bouncing back forward and whacking her face on whatever she's tied to. :doh:
Dakota Sunrise
10-15-2008, 09:21 PM
I think you did pretty well!
I just read your answers and I missed a few things.
Unfortunately, with any tie except the highline, there's no way to prevent a horse who is pulling back from bouncing back forward and whacking her face on whatever she's tied to. :doh:
Yeah, I found that out tonight.:( Poor Beauty.:( Bad horse mommy.:(
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 09:48 PM
Naw. Nothing you can do to prevent what she did, really. They're unpredicable beasts. She didn't break loose and hurt herself worse, so that's a success. :)
Dakota Sunrise
10-15-2008, 09:53 PM
She didn't break loose and hurt herself worse, so that's a success. :)
Very true, althought for a moment I thought she was going break the lead rope. I tried to calm her down, but it was probably hard for her to take my "Easy, Beauty- you're okayyyyy!" while I'm leaping backwards to avoid being trampled.:rolleyes:
WashingtonBay
10-15-2008, 09:58 PM
But that is one reason I like high lines.... Because there's not a solid thing to pull back from, they generally don't. On a highline, if they're startled by something they turn to face it, and if they're uneasy they tend to circle, which takes the panic out of it for them. They panic at the sudden constriction of the tie. On a highline, it's very elastic and they don't get that 'trapped' feeling.
Just one little spiel on high lines. I like 'em.
mtnmollie
10-15-2008, 10:26 PM
Great thread Bay.
I always get to the party late... :cowboy:
1. Tied to a gate.
2. Tied too low.
3. Hose and shovel in the way.
4. He could put his foot thru the fence if he decided to paw.
5. I don't leave a blanket on while tied.
6. Could trip on the mat if he walked to the side.
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 07:59 AM
Good! My answers are upthead.... Anyone have any pictures of their setup for critique? :)
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 09:04 AM
I will go find a picture... :)
Horsemanship 101 fencing
How many problems?
At least 3 or 4 -
I know about them because I have lived them- LOL.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee150/mtnmollie/Akhal-Teke%20cross/IMG_2534.jpg[/QUOTE]
Gypsy Rose
10-16-2008, 09:18 AM
First thing I see is in some area the wire's on the OUTSIDE of the posts- good way for a horse to pop it off easily.
Bottom strand too high.
That's two, anyway!:)
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 09:23 AM
Well mollie, I think it's not nearly enough wire, not very visible, and too easy to go over or under. I have seven wires around my pasture, from six inches above the ground to about six feet high, two of them white tape to make it more visible. But then, I like a lot of fence. :)
Ariesgrl131
10-16-2008, 09:40 AM
Great Thread!
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Well mollie, I think it's not nearly enough wire, not very visible, and too easy to go over or under. I have seven wires around my pasture, from six inches above the ground to about six feet high, two of them white tape to make it more visible. But then, I like a lot of fence. :)
White tape- I like that! More wire?
On my boundary fence we have 4 strands and never a wreck.:cowboy:
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 09:46 AM
What would happen if you put horses in the neighboring pasture, pasture A and B?
IrisGreen
10-16-2008, 09:49 AM
I got one to critique. I got jumped on for this one when I first posted it on the other forum even WITH my explanation.
But, if you don't know why he was "tied" like this I could see it being a major No No. I don't want to turn this thread in to a debate about the "ringy thingy". But I did want to post a bad example of tieing because this does look really bad. lol
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/DesignersPet/TieRing008-2.jpg
I will post in a few why at the time I didn't see a problem tieing him like that.
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 09:49 AM
White tape- I like that! More wire?
On my boundary fence we have 4 strands and never a wreck.:cowboy:
Four would be twice as good as two. I'd put one wire lower and then run a white tape higher on yours.
I've found, where the head can go, the horse follows. If they can get their head through it, under it, or over it, they're much more likely to blow through it. If it's high enough, and close enough together that they can't get their head past it... it's a wall.
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 09:50 AM
First thing I see is in some area the wire's on the OUTSIDE of the posts- good way for a horse to pop it off easily.
Bottom strand too high.
That's two, anyway!:)
Thats good Gypsy. :cowboy:
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 10:13 AM
Four would be twice as good as two. I'd put one wire lower and then run a white tape higher on yours.
I've found, where the head can go, the horse follows. If they can get their head through it, under it, or over it, they're much more likely to blow through it. If it's high enough, and close enough together that they can't get their head past it... it's a wall.
The filly on the right is a fence crasher. She blew through a 4 foot wooden gate. So horse fence should be eye level? 6 foot?
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 10:20 AM
Low wire problems.
Rusty was fence pawing one day and caught his foot.
He almost cut his foot all the way off.
The vet put a cast on him and after a year he was ok again.
Barb wire will cut a horse up and smooth wire can cut like a knife.
Hot fence will keep them off the fence- untill they get their leg in the fence from kicking.
If the hot fence is off when they get their leg in it this is good.
Fence should hold when a horse hits it - but break when a horse kicks it.
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 10:22 AM
Well, maybe I should make my next 101 about fencing :)
But I would make the fence as high as your posts go. Post height that doesn't have fence on it is wasted. :)
Here's my cross fence between my pastures, and it's being tested because we're introducing a new guest horse and Bay is REAL interested.
As I said above, my outside perimeter fence is 7 wires, this one is five. The wire is high enough that he can't get his head over, and just close enough together that he doesn't want to stick his head between them either, it'll bite him.
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 10:25 AM
Low wire problems.
Rusty was fence pawing one day and caught his foot.
He almost cut his foot all the way off.
The vet put a cast on him and after a year he was ok again.
Barb wire will cut a horse up and smooth wire can cut like a knife.
Hot fence will keep them off the fence- untill they get their leg in the fence from kicking.
If the hot fence is off when they get their leg in it this is good.
Fence should hold when a horse hits it - but break when a horse kicks it.
If it's always hot and they know this, they don't paw it or kick through it, in my experience. It's only wire that is NOT on, that is unsafe around horses. They know.
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 10:27 AM
Oh? I'm off topic? oops-
"I will post in a few why at the time I didn't see a problem tieing him like that. "
Hi Iris Green.
Thanks for playng with us.
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 10:29 AM
If it's always hot and they know this, they don't paw it or kick through it, in my experience. It's only wire that is NOT on, that is unsafe around horses. They know.
Thanks. :cowboy:
Hot fence should be hot.
I asked Joe when his Arab horse got ripped open from smooth wire- did you have hot fence? No says he.
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 10:39 AM
I got one to critique. I got jumped on for this one when I first posted it on the other forum even WITH my explanation.
But, if you don't know why he was "tied" like this I could see it being a major No No. I don't want to turn this thread in to a debate about the "ringy thingy". But I did want to post a bad example of tieing because this does look really bad. lol
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/DesignersPet/TieRing008-2.jpg
I will post in a few why at the time I didn't see a problem tieing him like that.
Right... I think it's too low, and that pipe fence is not strong enough.
mtnmollie
10-16-2008, 11:47 AM
Good! My answers are upthead.... Anyone have any pictures of their setup for critique? :)
Sorry I got off topic Bay.
I did not mean to mess up your thread. :)
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 11:56 AM
Eh - life is messy :) Learn to love it, I say.
But I think fencing might be a good topic for the next 101.
IrisGreen
10-16-2008, 05:09 PM
Yeah, He was tied too low.. way too low. But, I was using the Block tie ring so he isn't technically tied solid and I was there to watch him. He did get the rope over his head at one point and didn't like it but he figured it out and I was able to stay calm and talk to him because I knew the tie ring would just give him more rope if he really paniced and pulled. So, he learned how to not panic and figure out how to get his head from under the rope.
The fence panels are surprisingly strong for there size. I would not recommend tieing a horse solid too them but when Muffin got his halter caught on his auto water that was bolted to the rail. He sat back with all his might and nothing moved or broke (he was younger and only at 1,200 pounds at that time). I figured he was going to pull something out of the ground or the rail was going to bend but nope. They are stronger then they look and cemented deep in to the ground. But, I bet if he sat on it instead of pulled on it they would fold over like a wet paper towel! hahaha Thankfully, Muffin doesn't test the panels or gates at all. He doesn't know his size and I don't let him be pushy so he is really good with the pen (it was already installed before we purchased the house).
I'm glad you are talking about fencing. I need to learn more about hot wire and horses. Maybe a new thread would be a good idea. More detail in to installing it maybe or different types or rope or tape?
WashingtonBay
10-16-2008, 05:13 PM
Yeah - OK - I'll give it some thought tonight and put something together on fencing :)
WashingtonBay
10-17-2008, 10:58 AM
Just updating because I haven't posted a fencing thread yet and said I would... I didn't have time, and I do want to find or take some good example pictures when I do post it, so it will take time. I think I'll stop making promises that are too particular on it, and say it will be next, and hopefully soon. :)
mtnmollie
10-17-2008, 12:01 PM
Oh good. :cowboy:
offgridgirl
10-17-2008, 04:10 PM
Good thread, with some great comments!! The only thing I can is that I use cross ties in the barn. So way to get caught on legs or bump head. On the trail I usally don't tie at all just hand my reins to a friend and visa versa for her while we go for a outhouse break..hehehehehe...
roughcolliegirl
11-27-2011, 07:45 PM
great thread! are there more Horsemanship 101 threads? maybe this should be a ... thingy. catagory thingy.
WashingtonBay
11-27-2011, 09:05 PM
I don't remember how many we actually got around to doing?! :) It was an idea for slow times when the forum was still young, but we got busy later. :)
Sparrk
11-28-2011, 08:43 AM
This is a good idea! We could also post pictures of our own horses tied...or fencing...and let members here critque it. Often times, we get too confident with our horses and tend to let our quard down.
WashingtonBay
11-28-2011, 09:53 AM
Feel free to add to it! Or create your own! It was a good idea to have some good horsemanship/educational discussions over winter... About whatever topic you think is good or that you think you have particular information about to share!
:)
CaddoCinnamon
11-28-2011, 10:02 AM
Thanks WB for what you posted on Tying.
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