PETA Wants Big Brown Gelded

[Horserider]

http://blogs.usatoday.com/gameon/2008/10/peta-wants-big.html

They have absolutely no logic. Though I do have to say for the first and probably last time I have to say I agree.

More than 700 thoroughbreds break down and die every year at tracks across the country, but the horseracing industry is apparently more concerned with speed than the horses' well-being," says PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk. "Just because Big Brown's injury didn't cost him his life doesn't mean that his offspring won't crash to the dirt and have to be put out of their misery, just as Eight Belles was at the Kentucky Derby as millions of horrified viewers watched."


That statement is so very true. I know that Big Brown will never be gelded though. Unless he's produces horrible foals he'll always be a stallion. They're right the racehorse breeders don't care about their horses well-being as much as they care for speed. THAT's the real reason why racehorses break down so much. It's not the tracks it's the breeding.

ETA: what they don't think about is without the stud career Big Brown has no future. He could never be just a riding horse. His feet are too bad for the careers most OTTB are retrained for. He'd probably just end up in a slaughterhouse somewhere or abused and neglected because he's worth nothing to his owners anymore. Unless they were willing to give him a lifelong retirement home, he'd have no future.

[Ariesgrl131]

Peta needs to get a life..... sorry if that offends anyone but sometimes they push things to far. How can we be americans and a free choice country with a extreme group trying to control everything. Wild horses run, eat, poop, make more wild horses. How is him being a stud hurting anything?

[Mercury]

Peta needs to get a life..... sorry if that offends anyone but sometimes they push things to far. How can we be americans and a free choice country with a extreme group trying to control everything. Wild horses run, eat, poop, make more wild horses. How is him being a stud hurting anything?


Totally agree with the PETA needs to get a life part... but I do agree with them for once about Big Brown being gelded. Have you ever seen a full TB with good feet? They don't exist. Ask any of the farriers. Now they want to take a horse with even WORSE feet than the average TB and breed him to make even worse feet. That's what is hurting by keeping him a stud...

[IrisGreen]

I agree that they are breeding for speed and not caring about the soundness of the horse in the long run. Some with the halter horses and small feet. But PETA wants EVERY pet you own or anyone else owns to be fixed. They don't like people having pets in general, dogs, cats, birds and so on. They want every pet fixed and feel that we torture them by making them our pets and don't let them live there lives as they would in the wild. They have a very twisted view of what your animal would prefer.

I don't know about you all but my dogs seem to like laying all over my couch and howl when it gets dark outside to be let in. I don't think they have a problem with being my pet what so ever. lol

There is a fine line between caring and going over board and PETA is way past the over board when you talk with them in person. I have talked with them before face to face and they are a snobby, know it all group of bleach blond women that think they know what is best for your animals no matter how well you take care of them. They will take one good thing that needs to change but then add in there own over board agenda and before you know it they will want every TB gelded.

They tried to do it here with dogs and cats, Forcing owners to fix them or be punished by law. Several times they pushed there agenda but there new "healthy pets act" was protested and didn't pass. They wanted extra money to go in to enforcing a new law instead of offering low cost spay and neuter clinics. They wanted people to be forced by law to get there pets fixed no mater what age the dog or cat was and if the surgery was risky for an animal with prior health issues. They wanted officers to peek over every fence to make sure your dog was registered and fixed. Like the few officers that the animal shelter does have, have time to go peeking over everyones fences on a street by street basis? Come on! If you want less animals in the shelters then offer free spay and neuter clinics for the people that can't afford it. I just neutered my cat and it was over $170 once I got out of there with the fees, shots, and surgery costs. The people that let there animals keep breeding are the ones that most likely can't afford to get them fixed so they just drop the pups/cats off at the shelter every time there pet has a litter instead of paying the money to get them fixed.

PETA always has an answer to a problem but before you agree with them you had better look deeper because I can guarantee they have a hidden agenda that is way bigger then just gelding one horse.

[Horserider]

They want every pet fixed and feel that we torture them by making them our pets and don't let them live there lives as they would in the wild. They have a very twisted view of what your animal would prefer.


I agree that they have a twisted way of viewing things. But I disagree with you saying that they believe we torture animals by making them our pets. I've been on their website and they have a forum and lots of people on the forum have pets. (I am not a member of PETA. They are way too extreme for my beliefs)

They're main problem is that they won't admit that their goals are impossible. No one is going to agree to fix all their animals nor can we afford it. There would be no way of enforcing such a law. They also don't realize that the world will never be all vegetarian. While I do believe that we can be cruel to the animals we eat, I will not give up meat anytime soon. God gave us canine teeth for a reason. We have always eaten meat and we were made to do so. If we had been intended to be herbivores God would've made us that way.

[rocknK]

PETA=People Eating Tasty Animals...sorry I couldn't resist, forgive me Jesus....:p

[cloedoll]

Does PETA own Big Brown? I don't think so. That's just ridiculous.

[cloedoll]

PETA=People Eating Tasty Animals...sorry I couldn't resist, forgive me Jesus....:p

PETA is pronounced just like PITA and PITA means pain in the a$$ (for those who don't know, lol) - really, they are PITA's, they just think by changing the "I" to an "E" nobody will noticed what they really are...:mad:

[Horserider]

OMG this gets worse!!! What in the world are they thinking???????????????????????? It's like I said a couple years ago "Only an animal activist knows how an animal activist thinks."

http://blog.peta.org/archives/2008/10/big_brown_is_re.php

That's straight off the PETA website.

has now himself succumbed to the dangers of horse-racing.

What the??? Grabbing a quarter is a danger for most any horse!!!! NOT just racehorses!!!

But we still have a long way to go to shut down all horse-racing venues and to remove these animals from lives plagued by injury.


What in the world do they think will happen to the thousands of people and horses involved in the racing industry???? The trainers, grooms, jockeys, breeding managers, and other employees who's livelihood is the racing industry??? They can't just go out and get a regular job the next day!!! And what about the horses? The stallions, broodmares, foals, yearlings, 2 year olds in training, and the ones that are already racing??? They can't just be suddenly pointed to another career!!!

Sorry rant done. PETA people need to look at the real picture and not the fantasy world they'd like to live in.

[mlle_beau]

I wrote an essay for a class talking about how out of touch PETA is on their opinions of horse racing, and this is further proof of it...

[ownedby7horses]

PETA has hidden agenda's all over the place. I can't stand that group. They aren't doing any animals any good. They want people to stop hunting....well what about all the dead deer along the highways? Or what about the lack of food they will have if we don't control the population? What about disease? They just think that if everyone lived by their agenda's, life would be purple & pink flowers and everyone & everything would live happily ever after.

There are room for all God's creatures.......right next to the mashed potatoes!

[paint_girl]

This is insane! Do they even think they have a say in a horse that is not their own?!

[EnglishGuy]

I hate PETA. They really are a bunch of out-of-touch wackos. Anyone who supports them and their agenda needs mental help. Every single thing they say is so full of holes it is ridiculous. They don't understand any of things they are trying to change and how badly it will hurt the animals they claim to be saving and how badly it will hurt the sincere people involved.

These are the same people who were found euthanizing animals to "free" them. Sick people.

Big Brown is by no means suited to be a stud, but who can change their decision?

[Ladyann]

Horses are started to young, their legs are far to frail at the age they begin to race.....race horse owners should give the horses another year before they race them....horses love to run...I watch ours when they are playing and they gallop hell for leather up the hill and back down again...racing channels this love of running, but let the youngster grow a bit longer!!!

[Blue]

PETA sucks. I think this is the first time I've agreed with them though, Big Brown should NOT be bred!!!

[Remali]

I don't think PETA is all bad....and I think breeding any horse that has bad hooves or bad legs is not a good idea.

[missdixie]

Oh geez. This from the people who are begging Ben and Jerry's to make their ice cream with breastmilk instead of cow's milk....
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/09/25/peta-icecream.html

ETA I do agree that he shouldn't be bred, but the way PETA makes their points hurts their causes more than helps

[palomino]

Oh geez. This from the people who are begging Ben and Jerry's to make their ice cream with breastmilk instead of cow's milk....
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/09/25/peta-icecream.html

ETA I do agree that he shouldn't be bred, but the way PETA makes their points hurts their causes more than helps


GROSS!!!!! I would never eat ice cream again- and thats saying something!:puke:

[Suzi]

I am surprized we havn't heard more from them abt other horse sports, such as eventing. That can be very dangerous to hrses. An perhaps they have hit on these. I do beleive that accountability is important. With human nature as it is, there will always be people,who for their gain, wll abuse others including animals. And we have the other end of the spectrum, PETA, with unrealistic goals.

[mlle_beau]

I don't think PETA is all bad....and I think breeding any horse that has bad hooves or bad legs is not a good idea.

Clearly the people from PETA have bad brains, so I propose that we geld them too! :p :innocent: