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HoustonFarrier
03-26-2009, 07:07 AM
Went out to feed this morning, and TuShea, who is 30 days from foaling is cast against the fence, can't get up. We don't know how long she had been down. We rolled her fat butt over and she got right up and started eating ... so far, so good.
Let me tell you....a pregnant Clydesdale mare is HARD to roll over :D
Steve
FatSpottedAppy
03-26-2009, 07:14 AM
Silly mare.. :p
PoniesRock101
03-26-2009, 07:15 AM
silly silly! glad you got her up!
Kaitlyn
03-26-2009, 07:17 AM
Holy crap that would be hard to roll over! It's like rolling over a car isn't it? lol
Piper522
03-26-2009, 07:22 AM
I want to see more pictures of that pregnant mare! I am glad you got her up!
farmers_wife
03-26-2009, 07:47 AM
Glad you got her up and she is ok. That would be scary and hard.
elevenelevenxo
03-26-2009, 07:50 AM
Yeesh! Glad she got up ok!
natisha
03-26-2009, 07:51 AM
I wanna see pics of the fence that held her! Glad all is OK
WashingtonBay
03-26-2009, 07:51 AM
No idea how you would roll over a pregnant clyde.
I hope she's alright. :)
HoustonFarrier
03-26-2009, 08:14 AM
No idea how you would roll over a pregnant clyde.
I hope she's alright. :)
Danielle had her hind legs...I had her front legs...when we got her legs straight up, I got low and put a shoulder into her upper leg, and PUSHED !!!!!
Steve
cloedoll
03-26-2009, 08:17 AM
You are one muscular dude lol, I would've just gotten a crane of some sort...silly horsey. :p
HeartofSteel
03-26-2009, 08:24 AM
You are one muscular dude lol, I would've just gotten a crane of some sort...silly horsey. :p
Haha cause a crane is so much easier to find.... :p
cloedoll
03-26-2009, 08:27 AM
Haha cause a crane is so much easier to find.... :pChyahhh! :D
1800CRANE4U
HoustonFarrier
03-26-2009, 08:37 AM
Actually.....the tractor would have been the next alternative. Cotton lead ropes around the fetlocks of the legs she's laying on, hook the other end to the bucket, slowly lift the bucket and back up.......and over they come !!!! Keep the bucket high, so when they flop over, they don't hit the tractor.
or......take the fence down that she's up against, and let her get up on her own.
Just FYI, in case...........
Steve
WashingtonBay
03-26-2009, 08:39 AM
Bay got cast in a hole once out in the pasture. It was just enough of a dip and his body was down in it, that he couldn't get his legs under him. My heart was in my throat, because I didn't understand what was up with him, if he was colicking, had broken a leg or what. He was perky and calling to me and his mares, but he couldn't get up.
I ended up being able to help push him up into the prone position by pushing on his neck from the off side. Poor guy was all sweaty on his down side, I think he'd been there a little while.
HoustonFarrier
03-26-2009, 08:43 AM
You know...these Clydesdales dig BIG holes to lay in...but so far, they've not gotten "stuck" in them :)
And Big Sam is another one, who, for reasons unknown to me, WANTS to lay down next to the fence. He has rolled over a couple times and just TRASHED the fence.
Steve
TheRedHayflinger
03-26-2009, 08:44 AM
so glad you found her early and got her up and she seems okay! We lost a clyde/arab cross at college one year...she was fine at evening check around 8-9pm...got to the barn the next morning at 6am and a cop drove up and said we had a horse stuck in the fence (cast...just rolled too close to the fence)...sadly, she was already dead...vet said she had died around 3-4am...had probably gotten cast around midnight or later. A freak accident with bad timing since no one was around that late at night.
Equine_Woman
03-26-2009, 08:44 AM
Good advice Steve. Now if I ever have a really really large horse cast in my pasture I'll know what to do. . . lol. Although I'm with cloedoll, I'd be calling for a crane or 911. . . I tried to roll my 17 hand gelding over by myself once and it was not a succesful thing. Luckily he wasn't as stuck as I thought. ..
Glad you got the girl up!
All4Grace
03-26-2009, 08:46 AM
A little paint filly that used to board with us used to cast herself almost daily. Her owner ended up using at least 2 extra bags of shaving in her stall to keep the sides banked.
Even then I'd still often find her cast during my night checks, she was the reason I became so adament on doing night checks. Thankfully she was only a yearling during her stay with us so she was easy and light to flip. After the first two times, she stop struggling and would just whinny until someone came to flip her. She wasn't the brightest bulb but still a cutie.
Glad your mare is ok Steve! I had visions of you going all HULK and flipping her lol.
Shall we start chatting Hercules, Herculess! lol
WashingtonBay
03-26-2009, 08:48 AM
That's what it was too, a sandy hole one of them had dug.
Pony likes to roll in the stalls, whenever there's fresh shavings in there, and she's gotten cast, but she just braces against the wall and pushes, and slides her butt over. ;) Good thing, because even that pony is too big for me to roll over without help.
Beausgirl
03-26-2009, 08:53 AM
I came home from work one ay to find Beau cast in a Willow tree. Don't think my heart didn't drop to the pit of my stomach. Don't know how long he'd been there, but what I did was loop two separate cotton ropes one around his front and one around his back leg that he way lying on, and my son took one end, I took the other and we rolled him over. Now - he's not a clyde, but - still wasn't "easy"! Glad you found her in time. Hope the foal's ok too. When is she due?
HoustonFarrier
03-26-2009, 08:57 AM
When is she due?
She is bagged up now...although we *think* she's at least a week away......
Steve
Equine_Woman
03-26-2009, 09:07 AM
A little paint filly that used to board with us used to cast herself almost daily. Her owner ended up using at least 2 extra bags of shaving in her stall to keep the sides banked.
Even then I'd still often find her cast during my night checks, she was the reason I became so adament on doing night checks. Thankfully she was only a yearling during her stay with us so she was easy and light to flip. After the first two times, she stop struggling and would just whinny until someone came to flip her. She wasn't the brightest bulb but still a cutie.
Glad your mare is ok Steve! I had visions of you going all HULK and flipping her lol.
Shall we start chatting Hercules, Herculess! lol
They make anti-cast surcingles for horses like that. Keeps them from rolling on their backs. I'd say that mare needed one! Sheesh!
Toodlestoo
03-26-2009, 09:09 AM
I can't even imagine the panic I would feel if one of my big guys was cast! Can't wait to see pictures of the baby!
offgridgirl
03-26-2009, 09:49 AM
Good thing you were there! How is she doing this morning??
IrisGreen
03-26-2009, 10:12 AM
Muffin would get cast when he was younger. Ohh man was he hard to roll over!! Even with 2 people it was hard work. He would get cast from rolling in to the fence but by the time you found him he had all his legs under the rails. So, not only did you have to try to roll him over but you had to bend all his legs and get them over the rails so you could roll him over.
Luckily Muffin was used to getting cast by then and just layed there like a huge bag of potato's. Talk about dead weight! Even getting one leg over the lower rail took all your strength to pull up. After all 4 legs were on top of the lower rail we could hook up two ropes to the far legs and start to pull him over on to his back and then he would help and roll over the rest of the way.
I started putting the Anti-cast surcingle on him to teach him to not roll over completely and that helped make him pay more attention to what he was doing instead of getting all happy and just rolling like crazy not paying attention to were he was at in the pen.
I was very worried when he went to the boarding stables that he was going to cast himself in that small stall. But, I watched him roll and he stayed in the middle and only rolled on one side at a time.
I couldn't imagine pulling a Prego Clyde over!!! 2 of us could barely get Muffin over and at that time he was only around 1,000 pounds. It was like trying to pull a car with the parking brake on!
I'm glad you got her up! We all know your a big strong guy and I'm sure it comes in handy more often then not with those big Clyde's! I know I wish I had a guy like you around when Muffin cast himself! I had to call my Mom or my neighbor to help so it's all girls out there trying to pull a 1,000 pound sake of rocks! lol
Muffin got to the point he was so used to us rescuing him he wouldn't help at all when we needed him too. One time we got him pulled away from the fence enough that he had room to get up but he wouldn't try. I even whipped him on the rear to get him to get up and he didn't flinch! I about spanked the fur off him and yelled to get him to get up but he wouldn't try, not even a head movement. Talk about desinsitize, He was calm and just laying there wanting us to flip him over! Carla, my neighbor remembered I said he was food motivated so she went and got one of his cubes, teased him with it, let him smell it and pulled it back. He jumped up just fine and was standing in front of her waiting for the cube!!! This was all after we tried everything to get him to get up because he was clear of the fence! Nate, my trainer wonders why Muffin doesnt care if you spank him with the riens :innocent:.
HoustonFarrier
03-26-2009, 10:20 AM
...Muffin got to the point he was so used to us rescuing him he wouldn't help at all ...
LOL, sounds like our Mastiff, Bear. He was born with both hips dysplastic. We have tile in our dining room/kitchen. Well, he likes to lay in that cool floor, but when it comes time to get up, he ends up slipping and getting "frog legged" out in the hind end, so he's stuck. So, we have to go over, roll him over on his side and drag him by his front legs to the carpet, where he can then get up. Over the years, I swear, rather than even try to get up now, he just goes ahead and gets his hind legs behind himself, and then looks over at us to come and get him !!!!:D When we get up and start walking towards him, he rolls over BY HIMSELF, and just waits to get dragged:p
Steve
Equine_Woman
03-26-2009, 10:26 AM
LOL, sounds like our Mastiff, Bear. He was born with both hips dysplastic. We have tile in our dining room/kitchen. Well, he likes to lay in that cool floor, but when it comes time to get up, he ends up slipping and getting "frog legged" out in the hind end, so he's stuck. So, we have to go over, roll him over on his side and drag him by his front legs to the carpet, where he can then get up. Over the years, I swear, rather than even try to get up now, he just goes ahead and gets his hind legs behind himself, and then looks over at us to come and get him !!!!:D When we get up and start walking towards him, he rolls over BY HIMSELF, and just waits to get dragged:p
Steve
Omg, that's sad and hilarious all at the same time!!! You could throw your back out dragging a mastiff!! lol.
livaward
03-26-2009, 10:49 AM
poor girl! I thought I had a good pic of her from the seminar but I don't......
IrisGreen
03-26-2009, 10:51 AM
Hahahah I can just picture that! I know that "look" they give! "ok, get you butt up and help me, I will assume the position". lol :p Muffin gave me the same look, He would pick his head up and look back wards to watch for when I came out of the house but once I got out there he was a big sake of potato's just laying there ready to be strapped too and rolled over :rolleyes:. You could move his legs, put a halter on him and strap ropes around him and he was just limp taking a nap now that he knew I was out there to help :rolleyes:.
Joey A
03-26-2009, 10:56 AM
When we were boarding horses back in CA we used to have this 17 TB that would cast himself all the time, of coarse he was in a pipe corral and would get his legs under the rail. Most of the time I was there by myself. I could drag him from under the rails one end at a time with just a rope. But this was back when I could lift a 125# hay bale over my head and throw it.
vicklynn
03-26-2009, 11:10 AM
Oh my gosh, I cant even imagine what it took to get her over. Glad she is doing ok.
JetLagaside
03-26-2009, 11:13 AM
I can't even imagine :)
I got a call from a farm I was working at one night to get there fast - big show horse cast in his stall. We used the lunge lines on his legs and got him over with no ill affects but still not the kind of calls you want.
Beausgirl
03-26-2009, 11:20 AM
Had to laugh about your mastiff! That's hilarious. We used to have a lab who we would always "lift" intoand out of the truck when she was young - (to protect her hips from dysplasia), and she got so that she just never even tried to get up or down herself. She'd put her front feet up, then turn to look at you as if to say,"I'm WAITING!" Animals are just too funny!
Annie&Dixie
03-26-2009, 11:23 AM
Glad you got her back up!
You gotta wonder why these horses roll right next to the fence when they have the whole pasture??? :rolleyes:
AUEquine
03-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Glad you were able to get her over and up! I'm VERY impressed that only 2 of you flipped her. The last draft we flipped was that drunk horse. It took 6 of us to flip a 2000lb perch. But he had been down on one side from 10pm to 7am, and didn't suffer any longterm radial nerve paralasis or breathing issues.
WP~Paint
03-26-2009, 01:11 PM
Glad to hear you got her up! I hope she is ok.
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