shame in the show ring blog [update: BWF forum "featured" 8/13/09 :~)]

[cheval]

I saw this on another forum just recently and have been reading it. I don't show, so is the kind of stuff they report on normal?

Cause if it is, why isn't something being done? Some of it is down right horrible for the horses it seems.

Showing has changed since when I was a kid. It seems like it was more about fun and not so much about crazy competitive attitudes.

http://shameinthehorseshowring.blogspot.com/

[TheBadLands]

eh... some of it is obviously things we all know and/or speculate go on.. and of course something needs to be done. A lot of stud classes require a gum chain.. I do agree it is not needed. If you all remember we took Huey the percheron stud to an open dressage show with a rope halter.. he never misbehaved once..

But.. there are breeds that are, by nature, a little more difficult to deal with.

I really think gum chains should be used for breeding only, if they have to be used at all.. but that's just me.

[cloedoll]

Very interesting. I have a question, does cursing make them for more powerful and intelligent? More 'cool?' Honestly, I read through some of these blogs and it's curse word after another, I think it makes them sound like a sailor that is just bad mouthing someone for the heck of it. Maybe if they made a blog with constructive criticism instead of bashing pictures they don't know the whole story to there wouldn't be so many 'crappy riders' or 'crappy horses' in the world that they would have to rip apart. :rolleyes:

ETA: I didn't read through the entire blog, I saw the rider part and read all the bashing and that was that for me. =P

[WashingtonBay]

I scanned down a few entries, it seems she has as much charm and restraint as the fugly blog does... perhaps she wants to be just like that.

Blech.

Are there show ring abuses and things people do to win that are not good, are against the rules or distasteful? yes.

Is creating a blog to cuss at and pick on people who may or may not ever be able to defend themselves also distasteful? I think so.

I'm not a fan of the "lets try to get pictures of other people doing bad things so we can rant about it for our own glory and amusement" trend.

If you see show abuses... report it. Most of that stuff is against the rules.

If you see something on the internet that is being done wrong, argue it there, to them, in plain view.

I certainly don't want to encourage the kind of sometimes really unfair bashing of people that happens on these kind of blogs... there's no accountability for knowing that what you see in the picture is an accurate representation of what was going on.

My two cents.

[cloedoll]

I just scrolled down to the bottom of her page and found this lovely lil' note:

How upset are people about this blog?

The answer would be *very*. Some ApHC members actually paid for an online search to find out where I live. How screwed up is that? And why did they think their little secret yahoo b****fest group would remain secret? There are always moles in amongst the rats.

So SJ, PS, GS, BA, GL, TS, JP, LT and the rest of you pathetic a****, I hope buyers will see your initials here and realize you are what is the worst about the horse industry. Cyberstalking someone because you're afraid they might reveal your dirty secrets is just so much bull****.

For the record I live in Virginia. I currently don't belong to any horse organizations because I want to speak with impunity. I have family members that are directors on the boards of horse associations, and I give them he** too.

How classy!

(Edited to block the curse words obviously, lol).

[WashingtonBay]

And yet, she encourages people to cyberstalk other people and take their pictures and bash them, without any real accountability for proving the allegations, and from the shelter of anonymity.

What's good for the goose....

[cheval]

I should have clarified better, getting around the Fugly-esque part of it, I was thinking more about the subjects, like the tail blocks and chain on the gums and the other stuff they are reported on. I was surprised to see that those things were allowed, especially when you look at the pictures.

[cloedoll]

I should have clarified better, getting around the Fugly-esque part of it, I was thinking more about the subjects, like the tail blocks and chain on the gums and the other stuff they are reported on. I was surprised to see that those things were allowed, especially when you look at the pictures.

OH! :doh: :o

[cheval]

No problem! I was skipping over all that because I was looking at the pictures and the discussion about what was going on. Then I started looking around the internet and saw that it really does happen.

Not unlike Fugly - they could do a better job educating on the horse show stuff without all the what they think is attention grabbing potty talk.

[WashingtonBay]

I should have clarified better, getting around the Fugly-esque part of it, I was thinking more about the subjects, like the tail blocks and chain on the gums and the other stuff they are reported on. I was surprised to see that those things were allowed, especially when you look at the pictures.

Tail blocks aren't allowed, I don't think. They should be reported to the show. Chain on the gums, I assume for halter... I don't know. It's not something that's done at Arab shows so I don't know a lot about it. Neither is... heck... an Arab without a tail flying high isn't really an Arab ;)

[Mercury]

AQHA says they only allow lip chains for some stallions

[EnglishGuy]

I have only seen a couple questionable situations in all of the shows I've gone to. Now I've only actually ridden in two shows, but I've gone to spectate or help out my trainers' team (before I was jumping much) over 35 times in the past year. And since I happen to have connections with a lot of people through people I know, I'm able to go in the practice areas and "behind the scenes".

The two things I saw were pretty minor. This sounds like someone crying out for attention by bashing someone they don't even know personally. Sure theres probably questionable or shameful things that happen at a few of the many shows around the nation, but it is not widespread. At least not in the more prominent shows in the Colorado circuits.

[Ms Eddi]

Our shows are nothing like that and anyone doing any of that would be thrown off the property. But we're just small local shows and we do still have fun, Cheval.

[spotsmom]

Looks like the forum was her latest victim...

[FatSpottedAppy]

Lol, Fugly wannabe much? :) :) :)

ETA:
Just found out that the owner to this blog is Tracy(c)'s sister.

[LittleRedMare]

I just clicked the link, saw her ranting about our forum, and moved on. I have better things to do than read her vitriol. If she says things like that about a forum we all know is wonderful, welcoming and full of helpful advice I think I'd take anything else she says with a grain of salt.

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Wow. It makes me mad that she would bash this forum what a WITCH!

[WashingtonBay]

Looks like the forum was her latest victim...

WOO HOO! Thanks for the heads up! :D :cheers: Maybe Miss CrabbyPants with the deleted essay she learned nothing from writing finally got her 'friend' to post about us, and the mini forum, as she threatened to do.


2)Baywind Farm Horse Forum (http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/)

Let’s just say I could blog for a year and a day just on the crappy photos I saw posted here. The yellow lines of dooms would look like that big monkey drawing on the plateau in Peru. I could start my own version of the Nazca Lines all over their ass. Can these people not ride? Is it something in the water? It’s obvious the moderator has her panties in a twist because she’s never going to be anything but some backyard local show fixture, but seriously, when did hosting a forum mean that zero common sense was required? This forum alone would make me avoid buying anything from Baywind Farm. It's like if Exxon used pictures of the Exxon Valdez spewing oil in order to sell gas shares.

One thing I saw here that pissed me off was the mention of this blog, but given under another person’s name. Hey you stupid fucks, this is my blog, my name is all over it and I don’t appreciate you giving my hard work to someone else just because you’re too stupid or lazy to read the big words posted here. I think most of us here appreciate humor and sarcasm, but people trying to be funny and snarky, while just coming off lame and ignorant, give me a pain in my ass. Rating 4 ¾ Horse Apples
What crappy photos? And what, pray tell, are yellow lines of dooms? :popcorn: I've never seen any of either. You're just pissed off because we're still having fun with our horses, and you're too poisoned and bitter to do that any more.

BTW, I haven't been a fixture at any backyard local shows since high school, going on 25 years ago. We're just pleasure trail riders in this house, and loving horse owners of course, and have no aspirations to be anything else. I leave that to our younger members. :)

By the way... there is nothing available to BUY at Baywind Farm, Baywind Farm does not even exist (yet) except in a dream of mine, and on this forum. But thanks, if anyone even reads your blog, for sending people our way.... We'll take the fun ones. The ones that like and support other horse owners, not those who only know how to be negative and condescending.

[WashingtonBay]

Lol, Fugly wannabe much? :) :) :)

ETA:
Just found out that the owner to this blog is Tracy(c)'s sister.

Aw.... bless her heart. :)

[Jump The Moon]

Can these people not ride?

Like I said to allieO when I read this: You try riding Billy then, I give you all of a minute before he's pee'd off with them and has them on the floor (seriously, he doesn't tolerate other riders well:p). If they think they could ride him any better than me, do I really care? I am having fun with my horse. Sorry to rant, that bit I took really personally as I post photos here myself. I know alot of good riders on this forum! Whether we show or not.

Sorry to rant on, that just really annoyed me.

[Jump The Moon]

To be honest, I LOVE THIS FORUM
I don't care what they have to say about it. I can get trustworthy advice here (no matter what they say:doh:) I can talk to you about my problems, know you'll all try and help without patronizing me or telling me I am rubbish which many other forums would. I feel like I have some true friends on here, who'll be there through it all. And that alone is more important than anything else on a forum to me :)

[lovesfortune]

wow. i've said it before, but she is one klassy lady. ;)

[WashingtonBay]

You're fabulous, JTM, as are all our members.

She gave us some good publicity today, it doesn't hurt us a bit. :)

[allie0]

JTM just sent me this..

I am disgusted.
Completely and utterly disgusted.
What the crap is WRONG with people nowadays?
There is nothing wrong with this forum. Not one thing.
It’s obvious the moderator has her panties in a twist because she’s never going to be anything but some backyard local show fixture, but seriously, when did hosting a forum mean that zero common sense was required?
*rolls eyes*

I hate, hate, HATE people like this. Saying people cannot ride?
WHO CARES IF THEY CAN'T. I think everyone on here are amazing riders, horsepeople, EVERYTHING.

You know what, this forum has given me so much support, friendship, advice, compliments.. I have never had ONE bit of negativity thrown at me. Its offered an open door when others have been slammed in my face, its given me friends and countless hours of laughs and smiles, everyone is so funny, caring and welcoming.

You know what, she can rag on about BWF as much as she LIKEs. Because we know its NOT true, and we're not going to let some stupid, sad loser sitting infront of a computer screen dishing out crap get in the way of what we do here. She can creep our photos like the biggest creep she is, laugh at the videos, but its not going to stop us posting them!!

Sorry for the rant, I'm just SO MAD -_-
BWF is the best.

[quest]

Miniature Horse Forum was in the "unapproved forums" list as well. Sounds like anyone that doesn't support her blog or got in a mess with "crazy lady" got listed on there.

From the way she talks, it looks like no one is allowed to be a beginner in the equestrian sport

[WashingtonBay]

Don't be mad folks :) Have fun with it. It's clearly written by someone who hasn't even spent any time here.

Don't even tell her you're mad. Really. Nothing would make her happier. That's what makes bitter people tick. They thrive on it.

LAUGH at this silliness. I've not met a better more supportive group. She's got nothing on us... but she appears to have something on her :p

[Vegashorselady]

I read her little blurb on baywind. I found it humorous. The WB's aren't here to sell anything and none of us are claiming to be Olympic level riders with 6 figure show horses. We are who we are and we all support each other in that. :)

I'd also like to say that I appreciate that we are all "real" people here. Most of us have formed friendships and communicate off the forum as well. I don't know if the other forums have much of that going on but I believe that is what makes this place special for us.

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Ok I'll edit my post :rolleyes: This is what I think of her blog :hysterical:

[Vegashorselady]

Edit Edit Edit. ;)

[Horseaholic]

:popcorn: :hysterical: Now...who's panties are in a wad? This cracks me up...

[Horseaholic]

Who's Tracy?

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Who's Tracy?

The writer of the blog, I think

[Equine_Woman]

Wow! I feel really sorry for that woman. . Was Tracy the author of that ode/poem thing that came and gave us all heck for being thieves? If she is, and this is her sister, I hope her daughter was adopted because it seems to me bitterness and anger is a very strong and dominate gene in their family. . . lol

And I don't think that blogger has ever spent a minute here. . she just wrote that based on crazy ladies idea and view of us.

Oh and WB, I don't think I've EVER seen you with your panties in a wad, thanks for that!

[JackieB]

Don't be mad folks :) Have fun with it.

Awww, look at everyone jumping to your defense. Kind of like someone just skated in and blasted our goalie in hockey. :)

WB's right. Let it go off your back like water off of a duck. This forum is great because of the people, but especially because of WB and WBoy. WB would never allow any of us to behave that way on the forum. We'd be shown the door in two seconds flat.

I don't know this person, but I feel for her. Putting down other people is just no way to go through life. I hope she can find more kindness in her heart. Granted, we all are appalled and lash out at some things such as cruelty we see, but picking on a person about his/her riding, being condescending (what's wrong with backyard shows anyway?), etc., is just mean-spirited.

[quest]

A lady who wrote a poem, posted it on the internet, and freaked out when people liked it and sent it to friends and posted it on forums. A wee bit over reactive she was. Theres a thread you might be able to find if you search it. She said she was gonna give our forum link to the person who does the shame in the horseshow world or whatever blog and FHOTD and thats her petty way of seeking revenge

[Jump The Moon]

You know what, she can rag on about BWF as much as she LIKEs. Because we know its NOT true, and we're not going to let some stupid, sad loser sitting infront of a computer screen dishing out crap get in the way of what we do here. She can creep our photos like the biggest creep she is, laugh at the videos, but its not going to stop us posting them!!

You are so right Alice!

[Horseaholic]

Shows how much I care lol. I remember the poem and thread very well...but not the womans name. :D WOOPS!

[Horseaholic]

Wow! I feel really sorry for that woman. . Was Tracy the author of that ode/poem thing that came and gave us all heck for being thieves? If she is, and this is her sister, I hope her daughter was adopted because it seems to me bitterness and anger is a very strong and dominate gene in their family. . . lol


LMAO this is SO TRUE!

[WashingtonBay]

Who's Tracy?

"Tracy" is the lady that wrote that infamous [Deleted Essay] (http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8779&highlight=deleted+essay) who 'threatened' us with this publicity awhile ago. I guess there's some relation, or relationship, between the two... So it's a grudge thing.

Trouble is, the only ones who look insane at this point, to anyone who looks, are the two of them. :)

And we have a lot of visitors to our small humble forum because of it today. Maybe a few nice people will join. :cheers: Everybody wins.

[allie0]

I wasn't here for the poem bit, but now I'm curious hehe =P Anyone tell me where it could beee?

[Horseaholic]

:cheers: hear hear!

[Jump The Moon]

Sorry,
I am lost on this poem thing? Someone please enlighten me as to what this has to do with this ridiculous review of BWFF? I know it'll probably be some I go "duhh, I am so stupid!:p"

[Horseaholic]

I wasn't here for the poem bit, but now I'm curious hehe =P Anyone tell me where it could beee?

check WBs post above you it has the link...Do you have a few hours??? ;)

[quest]

If you search for it, you should be able to find it. The title is deleted essay, or something like that

[Jump The Moon]

Ahh, read WBay's post & seen link, thanks!

[allie0]

Oh jeez sorry I see it now.
Im a bit stupid..
Yep I have a few hours hehe =P

[Jump The Moon]

I agree then. Sounds like a grudge and sounds like a seriously angry and bitter family - and that's no fun for anyone. I feel for them, I really do... life must be horrible when they're permenantly so negative.

[Equine_Woman]

Ahh! We were warned! Lol. . here is what T Jean Maus wrote on Tracy's (aka Crazy Lady, my tender nickname for her) rant page on her website. .. and I hope her lawyer drops her like a hot potato. . .lol. I wouldn't work for either of them!! Sheesh!

T Jean Maus wrote: Looks like the idiots are out in force. I see where both forums lack reading ability and seem to think you own my blog, Shame in the Horse Show Ring. I suppose having my name all over it is just something to ignore. People that ignorant don't deserve to read your writing. Instead they deserve to be featured on my blog as examples of why the horse industry sucks so bad right now. Good luck girl, don't back down and make sure they pay you every penny you deserve. Tell that stupid lawyer she needs to go back to school.

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

T Jean Maus wrote: Looks like the idiots are out in force. I see where both forums lack reading ability and seem to think you own my blog, Shame in the Horse Show Ring. I suppose having my name all over it is just something to ignore. People that ignorant don't deserve to read your writing. Instead they deserve to be featured on my blog as examples of why the horse industry sucks so bad right now. Good luck girl, don't back down and make sure they pay you every penny you deserve. Tell that stupid lawyer she needs to go back to school.

:doh: :popcorn: :hysterical:

We needed alittle excitment on the forum today hah. This thread WOW. I wonder if this is all the same crazy insane lady? (oops i mean DUDE) Hah she flipped when I told her to chill out on that other thread ;)

[Horseaholic]

I am laughing so hard right now. Hysterical.

[quest]

Wahahaha!! Looks like the lawyer had some common sense and knew she didn't have a case

[Horseaholic]

Just a heads up she added JTM's pic for "clarification" .

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Edit edit edit....

[WashingtonBay]

Ah - well she's updated her blog entry to explain what her business about the "lines" means...

"http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bwGNY6UO-LA/SoRsaIJM5rI/AAAAAAAAARQ/v_vuGpvKnfg/s320/user96_pic13283_1249851554.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bwGNY6UO-LA/SoRsaIJM5rI/AAAAAAAAARQ/v_vuGpvKnfg/s1600-h/user96_pic13283_1249851554.jpg)
I added this photo because the forum evidently didn't understand what lining a photo means. Yellow is bad, blue is correct."





Congratulations, Miss Shame, you're badmouthing a teenage girl and her much-loved horse Billy.

If that's what it takes for you to feel tough, you're a sad excuse for a grownup indeed. Perhaps you can draw critique lines all over this one too, to show us all what you have, that this lovely gal does not.

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=164&pictureid=13381

Jump.... I hope you don't mind me using your photo. :)

I think I'd rather be you, or Billy for that matter, than the bitter owner of that blog.

[quest]

I guess we all gotta ride like olympic dressage riders the first time we're on a horse now.

[lovesfortune]

now stealing JTM photo would kind of be like someone posting a poem wouldn't it?

[ownedby7horses]

What a joke!! That blog is almost as awesome as pissing into the wind!! Oh well, I guess if you can't laugh at the idiots on blogs that rant about something they know very little or nothing about, then who can you laugh at??? This sister of the psyco writer, is about as crazy as her sister!! You can tell the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in that family, I guess it just sucks to be that "crazy ladies" daughter....I too agree and hope she was adopted for her own sake.

The sad thing is, I liked that essay when I first read it, but now I think it's pretty dumb...I guess just seeing the reaction of the dude behind the words soured it for me. Oh well, there are plenty of good writers out there, but I guess miss "tracy" isn't one of them anymore (in my opinion anyways). Any lawyer that would work for her must be just as touched in the head as she is! lol

Anyways, I have way more important things to do and worry about today than some stupid blog and it's stupid writer and her stupid sister.

[KanoasDestiny]

Hi guys, my name's Sara and I just joined the forum. :cowboy: I belong to the mini forum mentioned on that blog, and unfortunately, we had a confrontation with Tracy too (if you didn't notice :p - that's how we made the blog). I spent a good couple of hours reading through your thread where she gifted you all with her presence a couple weeks ago, and I wanted to join here then. But you know, life has been busy and I just never got the chance. Well, it seems life has saw fit to bring me back to you guys, as we now share a spot on the same tactless blog. :rolleyes:

So I just wanted to say hello and I think you all are pretty special! ;)

[Horseaholic]

HELLOOO and welcome! :D

[lovesfortune]

nice to see you KanoasDestiny! make another post and introduce yourself properly! :) don't want the good in this craziness to get lost in the shuffle! :)

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Hi KanoasDestiny and Welcome! I hope you like it here :)

Eta- I can't believe that chick gets her kcks from picking on teenagers, seriously she needs to grow up. JTM you are an awesome rider no matter what that dumb chick says. I love the bond you share with Billy also, its awesome to witness. And the above picture captures it perfectly <3

[quest]

Welcome KanoasDestiny! :) And thanks Shame for bringing us some more great members!

[Jump The Moon]

ofcourse i dont mind you using my photo! :)
I know what we do wrong, we are not olympic level - but we dont claim to be either, so whats the harm - it's a HUGE improvement from how we were once, head in the air, no control.. the list goes on..

I am slightly confused, did my photos/name get posted on another site or was i just an example?

[Horseaholic]

JTM - she will NEVER have what you have with Billy. If you follow the link in the first page you(your photo - no name) are on her site...

You took the words right out of my mouth as well. You never claim to be a pro..NO ONE here does.

[WashingtonBay]

Hello and Welcome Sara! :cheers:

[ownedby7horses]

:rant::crazy: Oh my God, I would demand her remove that picture right now!! That's stealing.....I guess it's only ok for her sister to scream about theivery, but if the shoe is on the other foot it's just fine!!! OH MY GOD, CALL THE LAWYER, PUBLISH HER NAME FOR ALL TO SEE!!!

[WashingtonBay]

ofcourse i dont mind you using my photo! :)
I know what we do wrong, we are not olympic level - but we dont claim to be either, so whats the harm - it's a HUGE improvement from how we were once, head in the air, no control.. the list goes on..

I am slightly confused, did my photos/name get posted on another site or was i just an example?

No - she just edited her blog post to add it. - Same place.

[Jump The Moon]

OMG. i am actually pee'd off she used MY photo :(
She's complaining about us ''stealing'' well what is that then?

[quest]

Maybe she should post the video of you jumping bareback as well :)

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Maybe she should post the video of you jumping bareback as well :)

Yea :)

[Jump The Moon]

Haha! Thanks Quest!
and thanks for everyone standing up for me, I know I am not a great rider, when did I ever claim to be?

[ownedby7horses]

JTM - You are a great rider and don't let anyone tell you otherwise....especially some half witted broad who probably has no real horse experience besides petting them through the fence at a petting farm tell you otherwise. If she's half the person she thinks she is and half the horse person she thinks she is, she'll put her money where her mouth is and post some pics of her fantastic million dollar olympic horses that she keeps in her million dollar barn eating their golden laced million dollar alfalfa hay bales.

[WashingtonBay]

Haha! Thanks Quest!
and thanks for everyone standing up for me, I know I am not a great rider, when did I ever claim to be?

You're doing terrific with Billy. And anyone who looked through your posts for a MINUTE would see that. DON'T sweat her.

[Jump The Moon]

thank you everyone. i am so upset right now, i am crying: why did she pick on me!? what did i do!?
i am a TEENAGE girl! i am LEARNING i have NEVER called myself perfect!
i have now deleted my pictures, everything.

[Jump The Moon]

You're doing terrific with Billy. And anyone who looked through your posts for a MINUTE would see that. DON'T sweat her

Thank you :)

[quest]

Of course you are a great rider! It's all about the learning process anyways. It's not like an olympic dressage rider hasn't been caught in a moment of bad eq, or an olympic jumper caught with a horse refusing due to their own riding error. With horses and riding there is always more to learn no matter what level you are at. It's the people that are ignorant enough to believe that they have nothing left to learn when their horses are a mess that should be critisized for it, not those that strive to keep learning and accept that they still have a lot to improve on (which everyone can still improve).

[WashingtonBay]

Oh no Jump... I'm sorry you're sad about it. And I'm sorry you deleted your stuff. You're a casualty, I'm afraid, in a stupid internet spat. She's got NOTHING on you. Nothing.

I hope you'll put them back. With PRIDE.

[allie0]

Rach all the work you've done with Billy, don't listen, you're one of the best riders I know.
She's a sad, pathetic little person..
If she's so pro why didn't she upload a pic of herself riding to compare herself to Rach?

I am shocked, disgusted.. This is so unfair, Rachel did nothing but defend the forum.

Water off a ducks back.

[allie0]

I've deleted my pictures too =/ I don't wanna be next xD

[ownedby7horses]

You know what I find funny about this broad? On her blog in the top right corner there's this little blurb

"This blog is owned by T Jean Maus and cannot be reproduced without permission."

Why is she taking photo's from here then and reproducing them without the owners permission? I think I might just take things off that blog and post them around on the net anyways....what a joke, such a "me me me" mentality.

JTM - don't sweat her, WB is right. She's likely just jeleous that you have such a great bond with Billy then she could ever dream of having with her horses (that she probably doesn't even have anyways).

[dame_wolf]

Unbelievable. That's all I can say.

[Jump The Moon]

WBay: I will when this is over/calms down. I don't care what she says about me, I can take that, yeah it's not what you want to hear 4 days before a dressage championship you're riding in but I can take it. But how dare she slate Billy, he has come so far. He was a bag of bones, he was a freakin' dying slaughter rescue and I am freakin' over the moon he is alive and can actually be ridden! Does this person not even care about a girls feelings? If she was so pee'd off about the poem problem her relative had and that was written for her daughter do they have no compassion to how someone else's young daughter might feel to be used as a: "can these people not ride at all" example.

[Reinmaker]

Just laugh it off. The lady is crazy. She is a nothing. She is angry and bitter, at I am sure much more than anything having to do with the equine industry. Anyone with that much bitterness is leading a very pathetic existence. That type of anger and vitriol consumes the person carrying it. I feel sorry for her.

The fact that the two are sisters is very telling.

Half of the things she posts are flat out wrong. Her condenscending opinion is based on what? Nothing of significance, that is for sure. Who is she to critique anything? She doesn't post videos of her riding or her accomplishments. So she can draw lines on pictures she steals from other people, big deal. Obviously the hypocrisy of her stealing other's pictures is not lost on any rational and objective person. If you rt. click on her site you get a nice little pop up message in her usual tone about not stealing her pictures or words.

The funniest thing about it all is her angry demeanor and overall tone undermine anything worthwhile she might have to say. No serious horseperson cares. The trainers, breed associations, and people supporting the industry with their dollars (through showing and buying products) are never going to be influenced by a ranting lunatic whose entire platform is intellectual dishonest. Again she is a nothing.

I do find it strange that the tracy lady sits on the board of Appaloosa association. I wonder if they know she is running around "representing" them in the manner that she is?

[Jump The Moon]

Thank you everybody, you make me feel alot better.
I love Billy with ALL my heart <3
Nothing can change that, no words, nothing. I wish it wasn't 9.45pm or I'd be at the barn cuddling him by now. He makes me feel all better.

[allie0]

I love it how everyones pulling together too.

I do find it strange that the tracy lady sits on the board of Appaloosa association. I wonder if they know she is running around "representing" them in the manner that she is?

You're completely right. I'm sure they wouldn't be the happiest.

[Vegashorselady]

JTM - don't sweat it. You are a great young rider and we have seen you and your horse improve tremendously over the past few years and you are continuing to school and improve.

The top riders and horses had to start somewhere, you can't tell me that every past schooling photo of them is absolutely perfect either.

[Jump The Moon]

also,
should I contact them and ask them *politely, I will be perfectly polite and inoffensive and mature* to ask them to remove my picture, please?

[Jump The Moon]

Thank you again everybody, for pulling together for the forum and for me.
This is the kind of thing that makes me wish I'd never set foot on the internet. It scares me.

[dame_wolf]

I love it how everyones pulling together too.

I do find it strange that the tracy lady sits on the board of Appaloosa association. I wonder if they know she is running around "representing" them in the manner that she is?

You're completely right. I'm sure they wouldn't be the happiest.

Wonder how hard it would be to let them know?

[quest]

You could, but she's reading your posts anyways so it wouldn't matter

[Horseaholic]

OH MY GOODNESS LADIES! please please please don't let this woman who gets pee in her cheerios every morning and spit in her food at restaurants make you feel bad about riding! I would not take down a single picture! You have amazing bonds with your horses and NO ONE can take that away from you. You never claim to be amazing riders and no one hear tells you you are so what is she saying that you don't know????? You look fine up there! Honestly...it's not like you posted your pictures saying "look how good my equitation is!" we are all learning...and ANYONE who says they aren't are the ones who are crappy riders. Screw her!

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Don't sweat it JTM your awesome :)

[Horserider]

*hugs JTM* Come on I love those pics! I just got to see the video a few minutes ago and it was amazing! That's something I dream about doing someday.

[WashingtonBay]

Jump, you don't have to ask her to remove it, she's reading all this. If she's not ashamed enough to take it down of her own accord, your polite request would probably also be ignored.

Allie, I think it's sad that two of our most adorable members have felt they should take their pictures down.

Don't let this bitter woman take your joy. Or ours, in getting to see you and your horses. Don't leave them down for ever, OK? :)

[Jump The Moon]

Yeah, alice just told me that on msn - I never thought of it. I guess thats how she got my picture so fast.

[allie0]

dame_wolf (http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/member.php?u=179)

Ooh I wonder ;) ;)

[allie0]

Bet you any money shes one of the 5 guests sitting in the thread now.

WBay- bleh, I just do not want to be next >_< This is why I stopped chat altoghether like 2 years ago, stuff like this. I don't want to risk it.

And I'll get them back up eventually =/

[Jump The Moon]

I wont WBay, one day you'll see us again. Probably after the dressage championships!
with more photos, that wont be "correct" that wont fit the lines properly or whatever. But guess what, we're learning we are BEGINNERS at dressage and it's so much fun! It's Billy fifth dressage show, he is doing amazingly well :) and I couldn't love him more :) She might draw up faults on those too, but I wont care because we'll have both tried our hardest. and anyway, I'll have a full sheet of marking from a 'proper' qualified dressage judge to let us know our faults :)

[Jump The Moon]

the instant sting of being used as the example, has gone.
now i don't mind, it's just like a grazed knee - the pain comes and goes.
this isn't the end of me, and like WBay said: draw lines up on that photo of us when he was taking a nap. Show me all my faults there, because it was and is love, forever.

[WashingtonBay]

:) Atta girl Jump :)

And allie... I really hope so. My world would be less without getting to see you and Samson, and JTM, and Billy.

[Horseaholic]

Amen sista

[WashingtonBoy]

Looks like we're getting some extra traffic today.

Ah, I love free publicity. Saves us money on the Google ads. :)

[Jump The Moon]

and to EVERYONE:

Thank you! I would stil be in a teary-eyed mess if you hadn't been supporting me :) and my riding and Billy wouldn't be at this stage if it weren't for you! I kind of felt like posting my 3'3" bareback video here, but I don't want to spite so I am not going to. Thank you to everybody who offered me support on here and through PM. This is making us all stronger :)

[Pinky]

I think I'm going to keep a list of internet hypocrites.
And one day publish it in a book of a length to rival 'War and Peace'. :)

JTM & allie - I'm sorry you've taken your photos down. I understand why though - I never post pictures of me riding anymore because I've been riding so badly since the accident with Sam.

I'm not going to dignify the blogger with a response, however.

[Jump The Moon]

Ohh! good point! free publicity! :) hehee!
Maybe some top dressage rider will see us and think she could fix us into something amazing?
That would be cool xD

[twofingers]

Well I must say that I thought that this forum was a bunch of folks who got together to talk horses, share knowledge and experiences, meet people to ride with who might live near and occasionally rattle each others chains in a friendly way without really caring what our variant proclivities might be. Just a friendly place.
But after read that blog and several of the thread lines clearly I have been duped. My gosh how could I have been sooo dumb. :p

[JennyandJosey]

Wow, I don't get some people. It must be fun living each day so angry.

JTM...I'm glad you're not going to let it get to you. You seem to be making progress with Billy. :)

[Jump The Moon]

Well I must say that I thought that this forum was a bunch of folks who got together to talk horses, share knowledge and experiences, meet people to ride with who might live near and occasionally rattle each others chains in a friendly way without really caring what our variant proclivities might be. Just a friendly place.
But after read that blog and several of the thread lines clearly I have been duped. My gosh how could I have been sooo dumb. :p

Oh Emm Geee!
How could you have been so dumb! :p LMAO

[WashingtonBay]

Ohh! good point! free publicity! :) hehee!
Maybe some top dressage rider will see us and think she could fix us into something amazing?
That would be cool xD

There ya go. :) The door's open. :) To anyone with manners and something positive to contribute, that is.

[Jump The Moon]

Lmao, yep, couldn't have said it better WBay :)
I can't thank you enough for being so kind to alice & I through this.
I've never actually had any forum drama before, so it was kinda scary...

but I'm ok now :) I hope 'lady' can find something more useful/productive to do than make little girls cry xD and something that will make her feel good about herself too, because I know full well making people cry makes you feel horrid.

[allie0]

Well I must say that I thought that this forum was a bunch of folks who got together to talk horses, share knowledge and experiences, meet people to ride with who might live near and occasionally rattle each others chains in a friendly way without really caring what our variant proclivities might be. Just a friendly place.
But after read that blog and several of the thread lines clearly I have been duped. My gosh how could I have been sooo dumb. :p


:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
ahhhh XDDD too funny, just too funny xD

[Jump The Moon]

Okay all, night night! Time for me to 'hit the hay' :hysterical:
sorry, rubbish attempt at a joke there :p

again: thank you!:)
i can go to be happy! :)

[Jump The Moon]

if i figured out my senior member thing twin two should come up somewhere xD Alice is twin one :D

[allie0]

Night Rachel! =D

[WashingtonBay]

You sleep well. We'll guard this place till you get back. :)

[Jump The Moon]

Yay it works! :D
WBay: i love that feature :D

LOVE YOU FORUMERS, NIGHTNIGHT :D
Love you twin one ;) sleep welllss

[Jump The Moon]

Aw, thank you wbay :)

[allie0]

Well I'm glad this is all calming downnnn.. That was a lot bit of drama there!

[Horseaholic]

Goodnight JTM!

[Horserider]

Night JTM! :)

[Gypsy Rose]

Yikes! I take off for the day and come back to this? Sheesh! JTM, I'm glad you realize that some people are just jerks, but not everyone.

I always look forward to pics of you and Billy, and videos, too.

Same with you, Alice!

Don't let some internet idiot get to you- they're not worth it!

We're family here on the forum, and nothing's going to change that.

[FatSpottedAppy]

Uhhh!

Go to Tracy's site under stallions (http://www.trinityapp.com/stallions.htm).. LOL. There is no "perfect equitation" there either.. If anything it is much worse that JTM(which was not bad at all).

Oh look, our LOVELY Tracy.
http://www.trinityapp.com/cost.htm

[PoniesRock101]

:hysterical: Don't worry about it rachel and Allie! We all love you and don't care what some crazy lady has to say. We don't know her, and she'll never know where we live!!:p so who cares! xD

Sleep tight those of you going to bed! :)

The only thing that really cracks me up is when you right click on her blog you get a message. :hysterical:

[Horserider]

The only thing that really cracks me up is when you right click on her blog you get a message.

Do you? I don't.

[quest]

Back to her sister http://www.geocities.com/trinityapp/thieves.html
Read the last one and click on the link, it is pathetic considering she can't tell the difference between bad eq and a girl patting her horse on the neck

[gabhainn]

Leave for a few hours and come back to this. Lady is a whack job and so is her sister, you know when all of ya'll went all ga-ga over the poem a while back I thought it was self serving tripe, and found it rather humorous that the author fought over it with such venom.
Now it appears it runs in the family,lol. No one I know takes her, or her blog, seriously they all say pretty much the same thing, and can find little if any proof that she shows at all, she is a foul mouthed whack job, and apparently its true. What I find totally frickin hilarious (and sad) is the fact that she goes on and on about people stealing frome her site (wait her sister too huh?), and steal JTM's pic. The paranoia these people display is astounding. who wants to steal a bunch of drivel filled with the "F" word, and a bunch of sappy sentiment that awww my daughter knows this and does that cuz she grew up with horses....So I am gonna say to her (and her sister) Hey lady who gives a rusty F(iretr)uck what you think.......Kevin

[offgridgirl]

All the fun folks here!! Does she mean "Follow the yellow brick road????" to the land of OZ!!
Wacko alert folks....;) Love it here!!!

[FatSpottedAppy]

Back to her sister http://www.geocities.com/trinityapp/thieves.html
Read the last one and click on the link, it is pathetic considering it is a picture of a girl patting her horse on the neck.

I myspaced that girl a while ago to tell her... I found that extremely funny, too.

On the other girl's blog, it says we have "stupid posts that endanger horses" ... I wonder where they are.


A quote from a comment.. :)
I have to agree with you about the Baywnds group. I live near some of these people and they are idiots. Talk about a cult mentality. They gang up on anyone that doesn' agree with their "party-line".

[allie0]

Getting her sister to chip in is childish, someone obv can't stand up for themselvesssss :innocent:

I don't know what the world is turning into!

[WashingtonBay]

We have a party-line? I wonder what it is? :)

You better believe we'll gang up on someone being a jerk to one of our own. Yes, I guess we're united in that.

That trait, though, is not something I think is a fault. :)

[Equine_Woman]

Lol, Which ones of us does she live near? Did I miss the monthly cult meeting. . sheesh, and here i had my maroon robes laundered special. . .

And wow! Those pics from the sister certainly don't show proper equation. . .her sis needs to draw yellow lines on that photo of Tracy on her stallion. . . but I guess I can't hold crazy lady responsible for this round. .

How did we figure out T. is related to Tracy? Just out of curiosity!?

[allie0]

Also, did anyone else LOL at the background for this page?
(http://www.geocities.com/trinityapp/thieves.html)

The words are :
Honesty
Truth
Loyalty
Morals
Respect
(blah blah blah)
She hasn't exactly shown us any respect, thats for sure!

[PoniesRock101]

Do you? I don't.

Right click like you would be refreshing the page. Its on her sister website too. :hysterical:

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Where the picture of this stallion? I'm dyeing to see it?!

[ownedby7horses]

What I find totally frickin hilarious (and sad) is the fact that she goes on and on about people stealing frome her site (wait her sister too huh?), and steal JTM's pic.

That is basically the same thing I said a few pages ago....how is it right for them to steal JTM's pic of her horse and her but yet someone posts an essay without the author and it's stealing. The pot is calling the kettle here! lol

It's true what they say though, you can't reason with an idiot (tracy or her sister) because they'll bring you down to their level and then they'll beat you with experience.

I hope they are reading this, you 2 little weiners should be ashamed of yourselves. You call yourself human??? No human should be able to look at themselves in the mirror after making a teenage girl cry over her riding (which isn't terrible anyways) and think that it's alright. I plan to post your little essay everywhere tracy and if you think you can sue me, then go right ahead and try.

[Equine_Woman]

It doesn't do the right click thing if you are on Firefox, just IE. . . just a tip! And yes they are both a nice peace of work!

[allie0]

I hope they are reading this, you 2 little weiners should be ashamed of yourselves. You call yourself human??? No human should be able to look at themselves in the mirror after making a teenage girl cry over her riding (which isn't terrible anyways) and think that it's alright. I plan to post your little essay everywhere tracy and if you think you can sue me, then go right ahead and try.

Good on you, well said :)

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Oooh I found it!! We should yellow and blue line it!!

[PoniesRock101]

Lol, Which ones of us does she live near? Did I miss the monthly cult meeting. . sheesh, and here i had my maroon robes laundered special. . .

. .

Did you buy a new snuggie special? :whistle::doh::hysterical: ;)

Those commercials just crack me up and make me think cult wear..

[ownedby7horses]

Infact, as we type, it's hanging on my fridge for everyonen in the world to read and guess what else.....it says "author unknown" and at this point, that's fine with me!! I don't plan to tell people who wrote it, I would be ashamed if you wrote something so meaningful and then spewed venom all over the internet...actions speak louder than words.

[JackieB]

It's true what they say though, you can't reason with an idiot (tracy or her sister) because they'll bring you down to their level and then they'll beat you with experience.

There's a lot of wisdom in this statement. I was at odds with a co-worker some years ago. This person had the ability to be really mean. After some time of trying keep up with this person going back and forth, I thought "Oh, no. I'm behaving in a way that I can't be proud of now." It was such an eye-opener and I just stopped. There is so much to be said for trying as hard as humanly possible to stay on the high road.

[Equine_Woman]

Oooh I found it!! We should yellow and blue line it!!

Nah, that would be too much like being them!! We are above that. . .but we can laugh while we think about it. . .

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Infact, as we type, it's hanging on my fridge for everyonen in the world to read and guess what else.....it says "author unknown" and at this point, that's fine with me!! I don't plan to tell people who wrote it, I would be ashamed if you wrote something so meaningful and then spewed venom all over the internet...actions speak louder than words.

:hysterical:

Ok EW I'll play nice :D

[WashingtonBay]

Oooh I found it!! We should yellow and blue line it!!

Careful that in the passion of battle, we do not become that which we think is really wrong with what they are doing. I'd rather not go off searching for things to do 'turnabout is fair play' with.

Right now, I know we're on the high road. Lets try to stay on it. :cheers:

Painted... I don't mean to single you out.... I mean everyone who is posting along the same vein.

[Horserider]

It doesn't do the right click thing if you are on Firefox, just IE. . . just a tip!

That explains why it doesn't work for me.

[PaintedDreamer_0110]

Its ok WB :)

[Equine_Woman]

I do know one thing, this is the kind of drama that brings us closer as a forum. . and makes me proud to call all of you friends. Thanks for that!

[palomino]

If that is her on that stallion, how old is she, and how could she possibly be the owner of an Appaloosa farm??
What a bunch of crap, and a total loser to be acting like that. JTM, you know how I feel about you and Billy- beautiful symmetry, with flaws no one is without!

What an idiot to spout off about the forum with NO knowledge of anything- WB, is the backyard show still on for the yearling and under baling twine halter and bareback class? LOLOLOLOL!

[quest]

I think thats her daughter riding in the top pics, but there is a pic below those ones that might be her

[WashingtonBay]

Palomino... it's probably the daughter on the stallion.... bless her heart, her mother's behavior is not her fault, lets not go there.

[WashingtonBay]

WB, is the backyard show still on for the yearling and under baling twine halter and bareback class? LOLOLOLOL!

Of course! Where else would I find my glory? :cheers:

[dame_wolf]

WB, is the backyard show still on for the yearling and under baling twine halter and bareback class? LOLOLOLOL!

Hey WB, Koda isn't a yearling but since none of us here know anything anyway can I still enter him???

[WashingtonBay]

I don't think a baling twine class can get all picky about following proper rules. ;)

[palomino]

I swear on Friday when I get my new camera (sweet beautiful awesome thing) Im going to post up pics of me riding Izzy, the greenie 2 year old. Im sure I will be on Fugly, the horse show blog, and whatever other trash talking websites are out there LOL! My EQ sucks and isnt textbook, but I can sure put a start on a colt. Doing something right.
Maybe I will post intentionally AWFUL pics......barefoot with no halter, standing under her....ummm, nevermind. Shes 2- I dont have a deathwish LOL.

[WashingtonBay]

LOL! Yes, lets not kill a member in search of truly critiquable photos! :D

[gabhainn]

! My EQ sucks and isnt textbook, but I can sure put a start on a colt. .
me too, maybe I should get a pic of me and Jackson in a long trot swinging a rope, me leaning forward, with his big ol ugly head up high..... and let her pick on a dog with teeth.......Kevin

[dame_wolf]

I don't think a baling twine class can get all picky about following proper rules. ;)

Cool! Then if they want to pick on someone they can pick on me! I guarantee I'm the worst rider on this forum hands down!!!

[WashingtonBay]

We're not giving any awards in that division Dame Wolf!

You're gonna have to try to win at something else. ;)

[dame_wolf]

We're not giving any awards in that division Dame Wolf!

You're gonna have to try to win at something else. ;)

NO FAIR!!!

[lacyloo]

:popcorn:

[GrungeEquestrian]

Wow, gone for a few hours...


I just love how she used my edited picture that I made into JTM's siggy. What a freakin' jerk, blogs like this really get on my last nerve. People need to get off their high horses, I'm sorry do I see any pictures of herself riding. Who made her the god of riding, seriously NO ONE rides perfect a hundred percent of the time and ripping people to shreds accomplishes nothing.

[allie0]

I just read that whole other thread, phew, I'm tired =(
Not liking that woman much..
But she was a good laugh XD

[WashingtonBay]

You know... I keep looking at all the pics that come up in the random feed, and I continue to be impressed. This is a GOOD LOOKIN group of horse"men" here, and I'm proud to have you all on this forum. Happy, well-kept horses and caring riders, without exception I can think of. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

[allie0]

You know... I keep looking at all the pics that come up in the random feed, and I continue to be impressed. This is a GOOD LOOKIN group of horse"men" here, and I'm proud to have you all on this forum. Happy, well-kept horses and caring riders, without exception I can think of. And don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

Awee so sweettt =D
Im looking at the pics I took today.. I'll probably post them in a while XD

[peace_baby]

Awww, maaaannn... I can't believe I miss all of this because of work! Ugh.. I miss everything. :(



Lol. :)

[miatapony]

wow no pics of her running barrels ???? but this person has the nerve to take on alot OF TOP Names ????? wow ive seen a couple of those people run and they are great... so some had off days but they are at the top where are her vids of raceing ??? that is what i want to know ????

[ownedby7horses]

Well we all can't be professional supertronic horse trainers/breeders/barrel racers/judges etc like her, so I guess I will bow down before her infinate wisdom! :rolleyes:

If only we could all aspire to be like her and her sister, the world would be a better place. :rolleyes:

[gabhainn]

. This is a GOOD LOOKIN group of horse"men" here!
I know, its a curse, but what can we do?... so on behalf of WF, HF, R44, JB, SM,MWDC,myself, and especially RM I would like to say aww shucks and thank you!!!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_3_1.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZKxdm144YYUS) Kevin





http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb097&pp=ZKxdm144YYUS (http://www.smileycentral.com/dl/index.jhtml?partner=ZSzeb097_ZKxdm144YYUS&utm_id=7925)

[WashingtonBay]

Well, FWIW, I left a comment on her blog:
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif WashingtonBay (http://www.blogger.com/profile/16202967006195998740) said...

Well congratulations you made a young teenage girl cry, until we reminded her that she's fabulous, and the mean-spirited opinion of other people she doesn't even know, doesn't mean squat.

She's feeling better now, I think. One hell of a noble mission you're on here, picking on kids and their beloved ponies. What's next, poking grannies with sticks?

Thank you for the traffic to our little forum today though! :~) For the most part, we're having a lot of fun with it. We have fun with most things.

We don't mind the nice new members we've gotten from it, and I'd like to extend a welcome to any others who like to have fun and actually help and support other horse lovers. (IOW, this kind of crap is not allowed)

Good day to the rest of you!
WashingtonBay
www.baywindfarm.com (http://www.baywindfarm.com)
August 13, 2009 8:40 PM
We'll see if she leaves it up. :coffee:

[Kaitlyn]

Wow, what a bitch. There's more I'd like to say..but this is a family forum..lol

[Equine_Woman]

Go WB!!! Grrr. . .she definately crossed a line with pulling that photo.

[gabhainn]

Well, FWIW, I left a comment on her blog:
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif WashingtonBay (http://www.blogger.com/profile/16202967006195998740) said...

Well congratulations you made a young teenage girl cry, until we reminded her that she's fabulous, and the mean-spirited opinion of other people she doesn't even know, doesn't mean squat.

She's feeling better now, I think. One hell of a noble mission you're on here, picking on kids and their beloved ponies. What's next, poking grannies with sticks?

Thank you for the traffic to our little forum today though! :~) For the most part, we're having a lot of fun with it. We have fun with most things.

We don't mind the nice new members we've gotten from it, and I'd like to extend a welcome to any others who like to have fun and actually help and support other horse lovers. (IOW, this kind of crap is not allowed)

Good day to the rest of you!
WashingtonBay
www.baywindfarm.com (http://www.baywindfarm.com)
August 13, 2009 8:40 PM
We'll see if she leaves it up. :coffee:
Awesome just awesome, ..........Kevin

[Vibe]

Dang gone to bed, and I wake up to this?
I have read it all and I think all has been said. It's cute how some people have nothing else to do with there lives.
Shouldn't she be out riding, ya know since she is gods gift to the horse world.
Thanks crazy ladies for giving us some new members. :)

[Vibe]

Awesome just awesome, ..........Kevin

Agreed. :) We love ya WB.

[Reinmaker]

I know, its a curse, but what can we do?... so on behalf of WF, HF, R44, JB, SM,MWDC and myself I would like to say aww shucks and thank you!!!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_3_1.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZKxdm144YYUS) Kevin







Geez, thanks alot Kev, I must be the ugly duckling of the horse"men" group.

[gabhainn]

Geez, thanks alot Kev, I must be the ugly duckling of the horse"men" group.
shoot i knew forgot somebody wasnt intentional i promise, I fixed it lol

[vicklynn]

Oh, I just went and looked...oh my gosh, how rude is that.
Im guessing Penis envy or something...ya know, small something needing something else to make them feel better, like attacking anyone they can.
I also cant believe that they attacked on of our forum family and even used a pic.
Wow, very rude place.

[Horseaholic]

While we are discussing not perfect riding I met a fence today and am PROUD of it! :D I learned quite a few things...You can skin your knee pretty good with out ripping your breeches...fences don't budge...When mares act up and you finally get your way they will get back at you.

[FatSpottedAppy]

Oh, I just went and looked...oh my gosh, how rude is that.
Im guessing Penis envy or something...ya know, small something needing something else to make them feel better, like attacking anyone they can.
I also cant believe that they attacked on of our forum family and even used a pic.
Wow, very rude place.

Oh my. Never heard that one before. :)

Horseaholic-- Ouch!

[Kaitlyn]

Penis Envy is actually brought up in Psychology classes..it's a real thing.lol

[Reinmaker]

shoot i knew forgot somebody wasnt intentional i promise, I fixed it lol


HAHA, I was just funnin. :)

[WashingtonBay]

While we are discussing not perfect riding I met a fence today and am PROUD of it! :D I learned quite a few things...You can skin your knee pretty good with out ripping your breeches...fences don't budge...When mares act up and you finally get your way they will get back at you.

LOL... Glad the breeches held up well though!

(Always looking at the bright side)

[WashingtonBoy]

Im guessing Penis envy or something...Great, now I can't wait to see our Google search stats for next month. First "green wrinkly fruit", now this. ;)

[gabhainn]

I still get ticked when I think of her jacking JTM's pic and bashing it, I wish I could find where she posted WB's letter, just so I could laugh at her paranoid, potty mouthed response......Kevin

[WashingtonBay]

It's in the comments for the blog: Blogger: Shame in the Horse Show Ring - Post a Comment (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5152826429049460534&postID=3759230562748337357)

[prissy18]

I was a little ticked but mabey I got my point across to her. Sorry WB if it makes you mad what I said to her.

[WashingtonBay]

I'm not mad... I couldn't resist the temptation either, and I tried. ;)

[prissy18]

haha it just ticks me off. She had no right lol

[WashingtonBay]

Oh - she has the right ;) But it didn't make her right.

[Joey A]

We're not giving any awards in that division Dame Wolf!

You're gonna have to try to win at something else. ;)

Oh... "Asleep at the wheel"

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=419&pictureid=13410

[WashingtonBay]

Heh... is this a timed event, or is it judged on style and form? :)

[prissy18]

Oh - she has the right ;) But it didn't make her right.

Yeah true true

[Joey A]

Form and appointments. With a breathalyzer test at line-up.

This is me warming up for a class last year...
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=419&pictureid=5611

Oh... And the mule toss...

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=419&pictureid=10397

[WashingtonBay]

Walkin! We will NOT be tossing any mules :D

[Joey A]

Pfft... you haven't met that one yet.

[Gypsy Rose]

Oh... "Asleep at the wheel"

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=419&pictureid=13410

Heh... is this a timed event, or is it judged on style and form? :)

I'd say definitely an equitation class here! I wonder how much emphasis is put on how deep a sleep the rider is in? I bet the more, the better marks!:hysterical:

[Gypsy Rose]

Walkin! We will NOT be tossing any mules :D


WB's right. It would not be a fair contest! Those stronger would have the advantage! Or would there be classses according to size, age, and gender?:hysterical:

[Vibe]

I second the vote for the mule toss. XD

[Vibe]

Also could we do a mini horse tossing contest? :p

[Horserider]

Oh... And the mule toss...

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=419&pictureid=10397

Awww it's so cute! :D

[GrungeEquestrian]

Oh... "Asleep at the wheel"

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=419&pictureid=13410



O, you're on WF! :p

http://i28.tinypic.com/6qyy6a.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2mrw1o4.jpg

Don't you love my show attire, I think the purple rope halter and Navajo blanket add a nice touch...don't ya think?:p

[FatSpottedAppy]

I'll beat you all tomorrow.. :rolleyes:

[quest]

All considering, GE has a rope halter on, WF has a bridle.. does that give her extra points?

[WashingtonBay]

I really don't know how such a thing is judged... :)

[JackieB]

Here's two more photos I found that need those yellow/blue lines. These people are from some school in Austria. They must not know much about riding because they can't even name the place properly. Instead of Vienna Riding School, they call it the Spanish Riding School.

Anywhoo, I think they must not be very good riders because we've got problems in these photos with leg position of the rider in one and the horse's headset in the other. I'm sure our blogging friend could teach them a thing or two about proper riding form.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg288/JackieB_2008/SpanishRidingAcademy.jpg

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg288/JackieB_2008/SpanishRidingAcademy2.jpg

Alright, so it's not like me to be sarcastic. But the fact is that you can't necessarily evaluate a rider's form or ability from a single snapshot. And secondly, even if you can, there isn't one single thing to be gained from being condescending and rude. It's absolutely uncalled for. Finally, we've seen JTM ride in videos and - completely objectively - she is a very good rider.

Thanks for making that post on her blog, WB. I just cannot abide someone being mean like that. There's no call for it.

[GrungeEquestrian]

I really don't know how such a thing is judged...

Well although I am a competitor I believe the lines say it all.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2ls89bn.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/vzc4ll.jpg

It's quite obvious that my head is not close enough to my horse's tail, the blue lines show everything quite clearly. Only such an moron would make such a amateur mistake. And WF, while nothing to brag about has much better form. :p

[WashingtonBay]

Alright, so it's not like me to be sarcastic.

But you are good at it... I shudder to think what you could do to us in the politics area if you practiced :D


But the fact is that you can't necessarily evaluate a rider's form or ability from a single snapshot. And secondly, even if you can, there isn't one single thing to be gained from being condescending and rude. It's absolutely uncalled for. Finally, we've seen JTM ride in videos and - completely objectively - she is a very good rider.

Very true JB :) Very true. :)

[WashingtonBay]

Well although I am a competitor I believe the lines say it all.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2ls89bn.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/vzc4ll.jpg

It's quite obvious that my head is not close enough to my horse's tail, the blue lines show everything quite clearly. Only such an moron would make such a amateur mistake. And WF, while nothing to brag about has much better form. :p

:hysterical:

[Petra]

Well although I am a competitor I believe the lines say it all.

http://i32.tinypic.com/2ls89bn.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/vzc4ll.jpg

It's quite obvious that my head is not close enough to my horse's tail, the blue lines show everything quite clearly. Only such an moron would make such a amateur mistake. And WF, while nothing to brag about has much better form. :p

LOL LOL LOL that is so funny!
Can I add my picture for judging?
I think I need some lines too!
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=925&pictureid=12266

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=925&pictureid=13421

[lovesfortune]

i'm seriously laughing my butt off at Grunges post with the lines! fantastic!!!

[WashingtonBay]

ROTFL! A beautiful late freestyle showing by Petra... This is a pretty dang funny group, if you ask me. :)

[Vibe]

Its nice how we can poke fun at ourselves. I think more people should lighten up like this.

[GrungeEquestrian]

LOL LOL LOL that is so funny!
Can I add my picture for judging?
I think I need some lines too!
http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=925&pictureid=12266

http://www.baywindfarm.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=925&pictureid=13421

:p

Ok seriously, don't even get me started on this. Horrible, horrible, horrible, what the heck is wrong with riders anyway, obviously everyone needs lesson 101 blue and yellow lines from Miss Rude Show Blog sister of a Psycho. I got my online ;)

Cmon' Petra I expected better ;). Pretty good form, but in the first picture you are facing the wrong way....where did you learn this from...some snotty blog?!?!:p I'm sorry but you will never make it anywhere in life, give that gorgeous horse to someone who uses lines :p

http://i25.tinypic.com/2emh2er.jpg

[WashingtonBay]

Boy - I sure am learning a lot about lines here tonight. Excellent work, GE :cheers:

[WashingtonBay]

Grunge.... btw... I can't help but notice your horse, in your signature, is seriously overbent.

[Petra]

:crazy:Whoops I thought something didn't feel right on the first picture!
Thank you for your help! Next time I'll make sure to turn around. Lucky me I didn't get bucked off!


___________________________
Lol Lol Lol I love it!!! - That is are hilarious! :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[quest]

Grunge.... btw... I can't help but notice your horse, in your signature, is seriously overbent.

That is sooo unnatural :mad::nono:

[GrungeEquestrian]

Grunge.... btw... I can't help but notice your horse, in your signature, is seriously overbent.

CRAP! :doh: You guys noticed...darn it.:whiteflag: I should have used my Blue/Yellow Line major...and then photoshop :p. O gosh I can never show my face again...look away!:o

Lucky me I didn't get bucked off!
darn tut-en. Lucky I was here to save your life and equitation...wait that's the same thing :p.

[ownedby7horses]

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

You guys are killin me!! Too funny!

[Jump The Moon]

Mornin' all :)
Oh I love your lines! :p
They've made me chuckle, and thanks again for everybodys support - you were all right, I am laughing at this now :) I don't really care what she has to say about Billy and I because as I said to FSA via PM, that photo she so kindly ''lined'' was taken as we were going onto a circle on his 'sticky' rein where he prefers to drop his head behind the verticle and work overbent, so my leg was forwards pushing him up again. :p Not to mention it was in me general purpose saddle, the rats chewed up the knee roll my dressage one! Looks like I'm gonna be riding in my GP for the champs...
He's a special horse like that, he loooooooves overbent - give him a long rein and he tucks his head right into his neck, he's special xD

[allie0]

Morning too, I've just been laughing at the blue and yellow lines XD
Now, if you can do a handstand on your head on the horse's rump, you get even better marks, and the crowd goes WILD =D

Ya'll are so funny!

[Jump The Moon]

Now, if you can do a handstand on your head on the horse's rump, you get even better marks, and the crowd goes WILD =D

LMAO! :p I'd do that if I could handstand, lmao!
I might get a nice riding backwards photo, or one of me sunbathing on Billy (in the winter we stargaze:))
today so I can add some creative lines to it :)

[Tens Legacy]

Wow, this person has a total lack of respect for people I'll bet she is truly miserble!! I'll bet she has some pretty bad things going on in her life to make her want to lash out at people the way she does.

[FatSpottedAppy]

Comment war!

[because our forum is one to go and attack children we feel bad for]
-- was she not just doing that with Rach & Billy? Pshaw.

You guys have some pretty tough equitation...

[prissy18]

Ok so WB I just read what she said about us!!! Bahah Im still reading. And when do this harassing of the "girl" happen?

[ownedby7horses]

I don't think anyone harrassed the girl, I think she's just blowing smoke. I want to make a comment on her site, but I'm pretty sure I should just relax first. I have to much personal baggage to bring to the table and it'll also get in the way as it's affected my moods lately. I will leave the commenting to you guys, but good job so far! FSA, you asked the very question I wanted an answer too. Who the hell does she think she is? Her and her sister are suited for each other and the apple must not have fallen far from the tree in that gene pool when it comes to "everything is about me, screw everyone else, as long as I get what I want...wa wa wa, they through sand in my face" type of attitudes.

[star197]

Well this was a GREAT thread to wake up to and read with my morning coffee. ROFL at Grunge's line pics!

Jump, your riding is awesome. Don't let the crazies get you down.

[Jump The Moon]

Thank you everybody! :)
I know I have my faults, but you do make me feel better :)

[FatSpottedAppy]

Wow guys, look at this thread.
http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/shame-in-the-horse-show-ring-234036.html

Here's a comment from it,
She actually used a photo of me and my old show mare from the 98 congress, on there a couple months ago, WITHOUT MY PERMISSION and proceeded to rip me and my horse part. she also refused to remove the photo, even though she had no permission to use it.

[Jump The Moon]

FSA: Just like what she's doing to me then eh?

[Horserider]

Get to page two post by Trojan Mouse. 99% sure that's her.

[Jump The Moon]

I think it is Horserider.

[Jump The Moon]

I might have a chat to the person who said she took one of their photos and ripped it to shreads aswell - just to see how long they'll leave it up/ how long I get free publicity, lmao! :p

[WashingtonBoy]

This is an interesting reply from Trojan Mouse on that thread, in response to the post FSA quoted above...http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/shame-in-the-horse-show-ring-234036-3.html#post3308378

Your photo was on a very public website.

So it's just fine and dandy to use someone else's photo without permission because it was on a public website, but it's outright theft to post an article that was found, unattributed, also on a public website. All righty then.

[Horserider]

All the posts are a year old now.

Seriously, is there a nice blog that reports on this kind of thing?

[Jump The Moon]

All the posts are a year old now.

Seriously, is there a nice blog that reports on this kind of thing?

I don't know, I think there should be.

I can't believe she said that, after her family member kicked up SUCH a fuss when her poem which was also on a very public website was posted here. Such a hyprocrit, it's hilarious.

[FatSpottedAppy]

You see... Tracy's website is a very public website. All of her photos must be free-use then.. I could have some fun with that.

[Jump The Moon]

You see... Tracy's website is a very public website. All of her photos must be free-use then.. I could have some fun with that.


Feel free to be ever so generous to me and share your fun, I'd love to see it :innocent:

[Horserider]

I don't know, I think there should be.

I've been seriously tempted to create one for the past two weeks.

[Jump The Moon]

Then again.. we need to remember what WBay said yesterday: we can't stoop to their obsimal levels. We need to try and be as mature as we can about the whole thing, what do we care what they think? All that said.. I'd love to see what you come up with, lol ;)

[Jump The Moon]

I've been seriously tempted to create one for the past two weeks.

Go right ahead! :)
I personally would add it to my favourites and support it in anyway I can, I'd be more than happy to circulate the address round to my horsey friends so they don't come to the situations we are in - although, I think this lovely Tracy would circulate it pretty well herself personally posting it on her blog and slagging it off most likely!

[FatSpottedAppy]

Quotes from another forum...

her lines look like a challenged 1st graders while playing with Paint on the computer.(C) (C) You can't steal this Tracy or "T Jean Maus."

All I have to do is look at the lines she adds on photos to know she doesn't know shit. lol (C) You can't steal this either, sorry.

In reply to above quote;

ya I was thinking about the same thing. (C) Nope.. This is copyrighted too.

[Jump The Moon]

Quotes from another forum...

(C) (C) (C) (C) (C) (C) (C) (C) (C) (C) You can't steal this Tracy.

(C) (C) (C) (C) (C)You can't steal this either, sorry.

In reply to above quote;
(C) (C) (C) (C) Nope.. This is copyrighted too.


LMAO! :p I love your little copyrights on that :hysterical:
Well, I guess it's good to know maybe my lines aren't that awful - but who cares!? We're learning :)

[Horserider]

Thanks JTM I'll think about it and let you know when it's up and running. :) I'll probably end up needing ideas on what to talk about.

[Jump The Moon]

Thanks JTM I'll think about it and let you know when it's up and running. :) I'll probably end up needing ideas on what to talk about.

Great, thanks :) A certain person springs to mine, lmao :p

[WashingtonBay]

All the posts are a year old now.

Seriously, is there a nice blog that reports on this kind of thing?

A blog that reports on other bloggers who are reporting what they see on forums! Who will report on them? Where will it end? ;)

Seriously... like all internet dramas this too will run it's course, and I'm happy with how everyone has handled it so far. I know we're on the high road here, and I hope we stay there. I love a good debate as much as anyone, and don't mind continued efforts to reason with these people - and efforts to have fun while doing it, for as long as our interest in it lasts.

But I want to stop short of becoming that which we detest. Since the beginning of this forum, I've been discouraging us from bashing other horsemen, either on ads, or in pictures, or in links to fugly or sites like this shame site, because I think the net effect of that mindset is poisonous to the mood and morale at a site. I've been around a lot of forums, and I've seen that over and over again. So I've been clear on that all along. People become consumed by the negativity that surrounds such a mindset, and I don't want that here. I want people to come here and find good friendship, good support, and yes, even good advice and correction when they need it.

SO... Have fun, but stay on the high road. In the end, we'll be better for it, and they, like they have already, will step in their own piles. :cheers:

[Jump The Moon]

A blog that reports on other bloggers who are reporting what they see on forums! Who will report on them? Where will it end? ;)

Seriously... like all internet dramas this too will run it's course, and I'm happy with how everyone has handled it so far. I know we're on the high road here, and I hope we stay there. I love a good debate as much as anyone, and don't mind continued efforts to reason with these people - and efforts to have fun while doing it, for as long as our interest in it lasts.

But I want to stop short of becoming that which we detest. Since the beginning of this forum, I've been discouraging us from bashing other horsemen, either on ads, or in pictures, or in links to fugly or sites like this shame site, because I think it's net effect of that mindset is poisonous to the mood and morale at a site. I've been around a lot of forums, and I've seen that over and over again. So I've been clear on that all along. People become consumed by the negativity that surrounds such a mindset, and I don't want that here. I want people to come here and find good friendship, good support, and yes, even good advice and correction when they need it.

SO... Have fun, but stay on the high road. In the end, we'll be better for it, and they, like they have already, will step in their own piles. :cheers:

You are very right WBay, if Horserider does create her own blog site, I agree - everyone here at BWFF is on the high road and I think it is very important we don't sink to their levels.

[Jump The Moon]

BTW: I have added some Billy photos back to my account! :p Including a few ridden pictures too! :) The one she allready ripped apart is on there, I figured, she's done that allready - now the choice is between my 3'3" bareback photo - which I love no matter what anyone says/thinks and a fancy dress photo, which really, shouldn't be critiqueable!

ETA: shouldn't be critiqueable because everything of the costume was carefully tailored to be horse-friendly, and Billy had a long time to get used to it all, not that he had a problem with it in the first place - brilliant boy! :)

[Horserider]

A blog that reports on other bloggers who are reporting what they see on forums! Who will report on them? Where will it end?

That's not what I meant. I meant a nice blog that reports on the horse industry. The abuse cases that come to light for example. I was thinking of doing some common mistakes in horse ads (without naming any names of course).

[Jump The Moon]

I think aslong as it doesn't become a blog slating horsepeople and their riding, it should be okay. The major thing I believe is not to stoop to their levels... I think no pictures should be used without personal permission and no names should be mentioned, unless ofcourse the person would like their name mentioned?