View Full Version : Obama to Release Gitmo Detainees
Tatesgram
03-30-2009, 09:08 AM
I heard some of this on the news this weekend and I'm trying to find additional information.
Welfare for Freed Gitmo Detainees?
Here, from the Associated Press, is a partial account (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hAuRnefeehLy7i8HyzT98iON4QOQD975U2TG0) of DNI Dennis Blair’s first press conference today (emphasis mine):
During his news conference, Blair also said the Obama administration is still wrestling with what to do with the remaining 240 detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, which the president has ordered closed.
Some of the detainees, deemed non-threatening, may be released into the United States as free men, Blair confirmed.
That would happen when they can't be returned to their home countries, because the governments either won't take them or the U.S. fears they will be abused or tortured. That is the case with 17 Uighurs (WEE'-gurz), Chinese Muslim separatists who were cleared for release from the jail long ago. The U.S. can't find a country willing to take them, and it will not turn them over to China.
Blair said the former prisoners would have [to] get some sort of assistance to start their new lives in the United States.
“We can't put them out on the street,” he said.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/03/welfare_for_freed_gitmo_detain.asp
And a little more...
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/obama-to-release-gitmo-detainees-in-us.html
Anyone have additional information?
HoustonFarrier
03-30-2009, 09:10 AM
Maybe some of the new Americorps volunteers would take them in ????
Steve
Ragnar Danneskjold
03-30-2009, 09:15 AM
Send them to Chicago.
WashingtonBay
03-30-2009, 09:19 AM
So - what's the story on these guys.... really.
Ragnar Danneskjold
03-30-2009, 09:26 AM
So - what's the story on these guys.... really.
Well the big question is about the chinese detainees. We sent a couple of them back to China, and they were shot (by the Chinese govt) the minute they got off the plane, so they don't want to "repatriate" any more of them. But they are still muslim extremists that will re-join the jihad when they are let go.
The Justice Department is now arguing that they should just be set free in the U.S.
I voted for Chicago.
WashingtonBay
03-30-2009, 09:31 AM
I mean more background on who these guys really are - where'd we get them, what's their story. I'd like to read the file - maybe I'll just have to wait for the movie version?
Ragnar Danneskjold
03-30-2009, 09:35 AM
Maybe some of the new Americorps volunteers would take them in ????
Steve
Yes... a nice warm-hearted liberal "Adopt-a-Jihadi" program! All those code-pinkos I'm sure will step up and put their money where their mouth is. I'm sure Cindy Sheehan would take two!
Though, now that I think about it... maybe not such a good idea. They're a little too idealogically similar.
Ragnar Danneskjold
03-30-2009, 09:44 AM
I mean more background on who these guys really are - where'd we get them, what's their story. I'd like to read the file - maybe I'll just have to wait for the movie version?
I don't know a whole lot. They were part of a Muslim "separatist" movement in western China. This area borders on Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kyrghistan and a couple of other 'stans, and India/Kashmir. It would appear that they must then be connected to the Al Queda / Taliban infection that covers that whole region.
I would guess (but it is just a guess) that they were captured in Afghanistan, or perhaps India. I doubt that China gave them to us.
mtnmollie
03-30-2009, 10:58 AM
Are they Muslim did you say? Perhaps they could apply for a job here?
CHANGING OF THE GUARD
Obama seeks Muslims for White House posts
Barack Obama is conducting his own affirmative action program to get more Muslims in the White House.
The move began with Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn, who took his oath of office with a hand on the Quran, to solicit the resume of what he considered to be the nation's most qualified adherents of Islam.
According to the Denver Post, when White House officials heard about the program, it was put on overdrive.
So far, 45 Ivy League grads, Fortune 500 executives and government officials have been submitted for consideration.
J. Saleh Williams, program coordinator for the Congressional Muslim Staffers Association, sifted through more than 300 names as part of the search.
"It was mostly under the radar," Williams said. "We thought it would put (the president) in a precarious position. We didn't know how closely he wanted to appear to be working with the Muslim American community."
In 1991, Mohamed Akram wrote a memo for the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood that explained its work in America as "a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93251
Tatesgram
03-30-2009, 11:01 AM
I mean more background on who these guys really are - where'd we get them, what's their story. I'd like to read the file - maybe I'll just have to wait for the movie version?
Here's another snippet
Seventeen Uighur terrorists, taken prisoner by the US in an Al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan, whom Judge Ricardo Urbina yesterday ordered be released (http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/513764) onto the streets of Washington DC by this Friday, today had the terms of their release challenged by Winton Demarassey, ACLU lawyer. Demarassey stated, since the DC gun ban was overthrown by DC v. Heller, Washington DC (http://townhall.com/columnists/AllisonKasic/2008/07/07/dc_gun_ban_lift_empowers_women) was no longer a safe place for Muslim terrorists to settle down. “I filed a brief requesting the court to resettle the seventeen Uighur jihadists in a highly populated region that has totally disarmed its citizens, a city like Presidential candidate Barack Obama’s hometown, Chicago.” The city of big shoulders has a complete ban on gun ownership (http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/March-2008/Bang/) in the city and is thought to be a much safer place to resettle America-hating jihadists who have been trained by Al Qaeda (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28924) in secret operations, bomb-making, and the manufacture of primitive chemical and biological weapons.
“I have already sent personal recommendations to a Chicago employer that runs a massive chemical plant near the population center of the Chicago region,” says Demarassey. “That would be a swell job for them, especially with their training in practical chemistry.”
When this reporter questioned the Barack Obama campaign about this story, campaign manager David Axelrod asked if the Uighurs were being resettled in Hyde Park. “Geez, I hope not. That’d be bad!” Axlerod added.
October 8, 2008
by Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammed_Saeed_al-Sahaf) (Washington, DC)
mtnmollie
03-30-2009, 04:29 PM
Do you think maybe any of our cities will be targeted?
cowgirlup@idaho
03-31-2009, 07:59 AM
If they are not US citizens, send them home or at least send them to a Muslim country. Wouldn't the Muslim nations want them back? I would think that our responsibility is to protect our nation, not them. They were incarcerated because they were a threat to our nation. Why should we support them as free men? Again, they aren't US citizens. :2cents:
natisha
03-31-2009, 09:54 AM
Do you think maybe any of our cities will be targeted? You betcha, either from them or their buddies trying to 'rescue ' them.
natisha
03-31-2009, 10:00 AM
If they are not US citizens, send them home or at least send them to a Muslim country. Wouldn't the Muslim nations want them back? I would think that our responsibility is to protect our nation, not them. They were incarcerated because they were a threat to our nation. Why should we support them as free men? Again, they aren't US citizens. :2cents: Neither are Mexican Illegals but BO wants to let them stay, pay for their education, health care & generally put them on public payroll- all without ANY proof of who they are.
WashingtonBay
03-31-2009, 10:11 AM
If they are not US citizens, send them home or at least send them to a Muslim country. Wouldn't the Muslim nations want them back?
Apparently not. No one wants trouble makers.
These guys are Chinese and apparently the last group we released back to China were shot when they got off the plane. We don't like that on our conscience, so... now that we have control over this group, it's our responsibility to figure out what to do with them.
I guess closing gitmo isn't as easy as it sounded during the election. :) Some of this stuff is tough!
HoustonFarrier
03-31-2009, 10:15 AM
[...]These guys are Chinese and apparently the last group we released back to China were shot when they got off the plane. We don't like that on our conscience[...]
I don't know...I didn't have any trouble sleeping last night :D As I see it, THEY made a conscious decision to engage in jihad.......you reap what you sow........so......:p
Steve
mtnmollie
03-31-2009, 12:03 PM
Do we have 3 choices? We could shoot them, China could shoot them or they could shoot us? Is there a 4th choice I am not seeing?
Leave then where they are maybe?
natisha
03-31-2009, 01:08 PM
Do we have 3 choices? We could shoot them, China could shoot them or they could shoot us? Is there a 4th choice I am not seeing?
Leave then where they are maybe? Yes , leave them there. On an island, away from the rest of the world. That's why they decided on building that prison in the first place.
Bring them here & we'll have to have special housing for them (& the other terrorists), their friends will have easier access to them, it will certainly cost more & they will be OUR neighbors.
Here's a 4th idea. Open the Gitmo doors, we leave & Cuba can take care of them or not.
Ragnar Danneskjold
03-31-2009, 01:36 PM
Do we have 3 choices? We could shoot them, China could shoot them or they could shoot us? Is there a 4th choice I am not seeing?
Leave then where they are maybe?
I'm thinking: game show. Ever see The Running Man?
:)
It would sell.
mtnmollie
03-31-2009, 02:44 PM
Neither are Mexican Illegals but BO wants to let them stay, pay for their education, health care & generally put them on public payroll- all without ANY proof of who they are.
Perhaps he wants more? Votes?
The Obama administration has developed a contingency plan for millions of Mexicans to flee the drug war by coming across the southern border as illegal immigrants.
Rather than turn back the refugees at the border, the Obama administration is planning to create tent cities to house and feed the millions fleeing Mexico.
"With Obama administration political correctness, no one will be permitted to call these so-called refugees anything as direct or honest as illegal immigrants," Corsi wrote.
The result may be that the United States will absorb another 10 percent of Mexico's population, with no prospect of those refugees ever returning home.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93373
Second term secure? Check?
8 years of bliss?
outriding01
03-31-2009, 03:26 PM
I hear Antarctica has an extreme shortage on Muslim terrorists....
natisha
04-02-2009, 06:39 PM
. Ever see The Running Man?
:)
It would sell. I loved that movie!
Tatesgram
04-03-2009, 06:45 AM
No worries, Hugo Chavez wants them :(.
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