View Full Version : Interim Honduran President Roberto Micheletti defends military action
Ragnar Danneskjold
06-29-2009, 04:36 PM
Interim Honduran President Roberto Micheletti defends military action
BY JOSE PAGLIERY
Speaking via telephone from his home in Tegucigalpa on Monday, interim Honduran President Roberto Micheletti again defended the actions of Honduran military officials in booting President Manuel Zelaya from power.
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Full Article: http://www.miamiherald.com/459/story/1119493.html
Ragnar Danneskjold
06-29-2009, 04:50 PM
This business in Honduras is something to watch closely, IMHO. It's the sort of thing that can go very badly and drag in many neighbors including the U.S. Chavez, especially, is saber-rattling and as a "friend" of the deposed leader could start some trouble.
Hard to imagine though it may be... Obama's got this one wrong too. He's already condemning the "coup" (though that's not technically what it is) and declaring it illegal. He's wrong here in that the (now ex) President of Honduras (Zaleya) was removed from office by their Supreme Court strictly according to their constitution and a new interim President (Micheletti) has been appointed, also according to their constitution until there can be a new election.
It's Zaleya that was stepping outside their Constitution, in trying to stay beyond his term limit by changing the constitution by referendum, which is explicitly not allowed. Their Supreme Court acted... and was completely in the right to do so.
But Barack's buddy Hugo doesn't like it, since the guy on the outs was the leftist. Figures. But for Obama to claim that this was some kind of "illegal" coup by the Supreme Court is just plain wrong. Another sign of... well... a few things.
Ragnar Danneskjold
06-29-2009, 04:53 PM
Reading all this... I can't keep Warren Zevon out of my head:
Well, I went home with the waitress
The way I always do
How was I to know
She was with the Russians, too
I was gambling in Havana
I took a little risk
Send lawyers, guns and money
Dad, get me out of this
I'm the innocent bystander
Somehow I got stuck
Between the rock and the hard place
And I'm down on my luck
And I'm down on my luck
And I'm down on my luck
Now I'm hiding in Honduras
I'm a desperate man
Send lawyers, guns and money
The $#17 has hit the fan
Send lawyers, guns and money...
:)
The fact that the ousted pres. was breaking that country's constitution is not getting out in popular media. From what I can find, we just get to hear criticism of the ones trying to restore "the rule of law" (*snicker* couldn't help myself) to their country.
A co-worker just got back from Honduras last week on a medical mission trip. She's a strong Dem. Her take from being there was that the ousted Pres. has some nice ideas, upping the minumum wage, providing more basic services to more people, but, that in pushing his agenda he has actually harmed more people. When the wages were shot up, employers let many go in order to afford the increase. When doctors were forced to see more for less, many went underground because the hospitals were not stocked with even basics. But, even underground these docs stopped doing all but basic care of treating symptoms. They are providing band-aid care now. Those still in official practice are stretched thin. She went on about food supplies, but I'll stop.
Ragnar Danneskjold
06-29-2009, 07:08 PM
The fact that the ousted pres. was breaking that country's constitution is not getting out in popular media...
I wouldn't expect that to change any time soon.
A co-worker just got back from Honduras last week on a medical mission trip. She's a strong Dem. Her take from being there was that the ousted Pres. has some nice ideas, upping the minumum wage, providing more basic services to more people, but, that in pushing his agenda he has actually harmed more people. [...]
Interesting comments from your friend, right there on the scene.
If that doesn't capture leftist/socialist/communist/fascist doctine in a nutshell I don't know what does: Harming the majority for the benefit of the minority. If she's still a democrat when she realizes what she said... give her time. She'll figure it out.
:)
I wouldn't expect that to change any time soon.
She'll figure it out. :)
She said that she is now questioning the speed at which these changes are being pushed through in our country having seen how similiar ideas have affected Honduras. She goes there three times a year for the last 15 and stays for only a couple weeks each time, but enough to have a more informed opinion than me anyway.
Ragnar Danneskjold
06-29-2009, 07:25 PM
She's smart.
Send lawyers, guns, and money. :)
rocknK
06-29-2009, 09:33 PM
Just send the lawyers.......keep the guns & money!:p
Obama was offering his comments in the Oval Office, while in the company of Columbia's President, Alvaro Uribe. He had the same tense, very little eye contact with Uribe, body language going on that he had with Netanyahu. Interesting.
Ragnar Danneskjold
06-29-2009, 10:35 PM
Just send the lawyers.......keep the guns & money!:p
I'm not sure but that you don't have that backward. :)
rocknK
06-30-2009, 05:25 AM
The guns & money are for the problems the lawyers can't solve!;)
Ragnar Danneskjold
06-30-2009, 12:46 PM
I'd still like to know why it's OK for Obama to "meddle" in Honduras and it's not OK in Iran. Could he possibly be unclear on who the good guys and the bad guys are?
rocknK
06-30-2009, 02:43 PM
Because the "former" Prez is a buddy of Chavez & so is BO.
"I'd still like to know why it's OK for Obama to "meddle" in Honduras and it's not OK in Iran. Could he possibly be unclear on who the good guys and the bad guys are?" RD
If you contrast what looked like unfriendly tension between Uribe and Obama yesterday, with his big smile for Chavez, that looks plausible. Throw in the lack of support for Iranians demonstrating their fixed election, and the case becomes stronger. I find myself continually wondering if my eyes are lying with this man, his behavior is so backwards.
twofingers
06-30-2009, 05:00 PM
Oh obie knows who the bad guys are- you and I are the bad guys.
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